War with Babylon

[1889]

You're right; there is no reason not to strike at the most valuable part of his empire first.

If we marched through Dur-Kurgalzu and Babylon we'd pretty much ruin Lincoln. Those two cities alone account for almost 40% of his worked tiles, 35% of his raw hammer production, and nearly 20% of his national power! They would also give us the use of all three of his wonders, namely Shwedagon Paya, Angkor Wat, and the Great Lighthouse.

It may initially be a harder fight than taking his peripheral cities, and we may still want to plan a diversionary attack someplace else, but I think concentrating our forces against those two targets would be a very worth while strategy.

 

[Cyc]

Although I like 1889's plan of dividing the Babs, East and West, because of the locale of our forces, I would tend to lean towards dutchfire's plan. Atack in the West first, so the Babs reinforcements head that way, and then hit the lower East. Less travel time for one of the stacks.

I would say one of the main benefitts of this plan is the immediate reduction of our borderline wih the Babs. Wouldn't this limit their mobility in a counter attack? And increase ours as far as reinforcements?

 

[1889]

That makes three votes for Operation Dutchfire. I’d say that pretty well settles the issue of war planning and Lincoln’s fate.

It contains one small error though:
New Giruvegan production should be Pike (2) - Samurai (3) - Elephant (3) - Trebuchet (3)

Also a note for the turn player: 2 Trebuchets from the current NG stack need to go to Edorai.

I would like to suggest a few small modifications:
The axe in the NG stack can be upgraded, the axe in NG has the medic promotion so should travel with the Edori stack, upgraded or not. I would also like to upgrate two archers in Arete, one for each stack.

 

[Vandal Warlord]

If we marched through Dur-Kurgalzu and Babylon we'd pretty much ruin Lincoln. Those two cities alone account for almost 40% of his worked tiles, 35% of his raw hammer production, and nearly 20% of his national power!.

I agree, but after cpturing those cties, Akkad would break Lincoln completely.

 

[dutchfire]

The main reason why I attacked these cities is that they are a) not very well defended, so they'll be relatively easy prey for our stacks and b) they're giving cultural pressure on our cities. By taking these cities, our own cities will be able to develop better. That's especially true for Venice, which is under quite a bit of cultural pressure.

In my plan, there would probably be a cease-fire after taking the initial cities in the west and east, to regroup our army, so we can focus on the core of Babylon.

 

[thecommonnate]

I think west Babylon would be a better target, theres just way more benefits to us if we can control some of those cities.

But how do we know if Lincoln will accept a cease fire if we take Dur-Kurgalzu and Babylon? Sure there powerful cities, but he still has a lot more, and if there not very well defended, that means that his army could always counter us at the same cities with no defenses.

 

[Vandal Warlord]

One thing I would like to do after the War with Babylon is over is begin an over-seas war against England.

 

[Diamondeye]

... Just for not starting a new topic about it; I would like the next Samurai unit hired in New Giruvegan named Takeo Otori (see my land grant RP thread for reason).

 

[Cyc]

Any more views on the war?

 

[Furiey]

Going purely from the screenies (thanks 1889 - I'm another who can't run this game) I would go with Dutchfire's plan roughly.

On the west though for a start I would only go for the 2 southernmost cities leaving Opis (with Islam) on the coast for now and concentrating more of our forces on the larger cities in the East. I can't see the defenders in Mari and Eshnunna, but do we need so many War Elephants in the stack this side? Could more be sent to join the Eastern offensive, particulalry if we only go for the 2 cities?

On the East, I think we should take the Cities Dutchfire suggested as I don't think we should leave them at our back. I can't see what defenders there are from the screenies. However, I would also like to take Dur-Krig??? which would probably need a separate stack of troops. From the comments I don't think there will be sufficient troops to go for Dur-Kurig, Sippar & Nippur as first strike cities, which leaves Dutchfires route from the south, hopefully drawing out some troops from Dur-Kurig in the process if we can get a 2nd stack to go straight to Dur-Kurig (maybe allow the troops to be drawn south first) that would be nice.

 

[Vandal Warlord]

One of my questions would be what religion would we be?

 

[Diamondeye]

I believe the plan is Hindu - nearly obviously?

 

[dutchfire]

Hindu, and then perhaps no state religion in Free Religion, but that's for another day to decide.

 

[Cyc]

I'll drink to that!