warlords - barbarian scenario

[kattana]

the barbarians scenario was the main reason i bought the expansion pack

and so far..it is not letting me down!!

it took a few games to get out of city building mode..LOL i had to quit the first game because i couldnt remember how to get back into my village to buy more units

and oh..taking a great general and adding him to one of your units and then taking all 3 of the special promotions right off the bat..very powerfull unit it becomes

very cool!!

 

[CarpeDiem]

its the only version i've checked so far, looks brill

 

[TyranusBonehead]

I haven't had alot of time to play, so far I'm playing a game just to explore the new features, units, etc. The barbarian scenario is one I'm very interested in as well. A clever twist for those of us who may be considered 'experienced' Civ players.

 

[Smidlee]

I agree... I love the Barb Scenario. Destroy, Destroy

 

[CarpeDiem]

camp unit is cool 2 though when i started i was on korean lands!

 

[Betafor]

I HEART the barb scenario. My first game was on easy/noble to get the ropes, second game a bit up to play, and lemme telll you, you need to put the difficultry up one more than you are used to. Some tips

Don't stop attking cities to pillage - buy a warrior after taking a city to clean up behind you, then dispand. If you have only 2 things to pillage, it's worth the gold.

DON"T buy units haphasardly. You still have to pay matinence, so buy them at the last possible moment.

CATAPULTS RULE - to put it in perspective, i won a tiny prince game buying ONLY catapults and warrior to pillage. Something is satisfying about having a stack of 20 catapults "stack attk" a city of 5 archers. Some promo- CR I and II, some promo - collateral damage 1 - collateral damage 2. You should have enough catapults that you dont need the xtra bombardment

the AI builds settlers to regain lost terriotry! So focus on wiping one civ out first, dont fight multiple fonts

UNIT COUNTER - this is what eventually made the scenario easy for me - listen, every early unit in this game has a counter (well, horse archer less so, but spears do the trick). And when you buy units, they come with full movement points. So - leave a few gold in reserve(you should NOT be buying units after an attk, you SHOULD before an attk anyway) and say you have a stack of sword and catapults, you are busy killing some cities, and suddenly you see 2 axeman one tile away. What do you do?? You COULD attk with catapults to save your sword, but that seems like a waste of a catapult. But remember - new spawned units have full movement. Hit F4, buy 2 chariots, and attk on the same turn. If that isn't enough, buy more chariots, ON THE SAME TURN. It's an automatic premptive strike for the UNIT you want, at the TIME you want, as teh COUNTER you want. (you can also use the chariot to scout/pillage instead of warrior after that)

 

[Stormreaver]

Question about this scenario - do barbs ever get the chance to buy more advanced units?

I might have missed something there, but I just beat a game a little bit into the ADs, facing Longbowmen and War Elephants but myself stuck all game on the initial set of purchases in the buy screen.

Not that it was needed in that game. Trebuchets...

 

[SwingCorey]

I seem to be able to load the regular/vanilla Civ 4 as well as an ordinary Warlords game, but when I try to start up a Barbarians scenario, I get to the countdown of 40 automated turns, and then my display goes haywire (vertical bars and largely drawn triangles and artifacts all over).

Is anybody else seeing this same problem? I have an ATI Radeon 9800Pro with the latest Omega drivers. I am running it in windowed-mode (as opposed to fullscreen) on an XP SP2 machine with a Core2Duo E4300 on an Asrock 4CoreDual-VSTA motherboard.

 

[Ecofarm]

Trebs. Don't stop moving or buying them until everyone is dead. Deity is easy. Then I made my own map

 

[Emperor2]

Its great for when you're feeling angry. Something I don't often feel, but whem I do I reach for my "Das Kapital" (Most of the pages are BADLY singed) and hit it, or play the Barbarian scenario.

 

[Arnesson]

In every game played so far, my first target has been Monty. His cities invariably have a minimum of 3-4 Archers, plus a couple of his Quecha warriors. By the time I finally overcome them and am ready to move on to another Civ (after building boats to get to their continent) the next opponent is countering my Swords, Axes and HA's with Pikes, Longbows and Maces. Hopeless, even with Trebs! What am I doing wrong?

 

[Zello]

@Arnesson
afaik, you can't help getting technologically trounced, if you take a while you will fight longbows, elephants, macemen, and worse. I once was separated from Catherine by Mao, Julius Caesar Cyrus and Monty, so by the time I got to her I'd fought immortals, elephants, chokonus, praets, knights and musketmen. And then to kill her off I suicided dozens of spearmen against her Cossacks!!!


Some tips to survive:
1. Trebs, trebs and more trebs. Maybe some cats as well since they're cheaper.
2. Stick to defensible tiles as much as possible (forest, hills, across river) and buy guerilla and woodsman upgrades.
3. Pillage. Keep a horse unit with your stack to pillage on every turn, and churn out some chariots to pillage everything they find. You need the money
4. Keep a LOT of ha, axes and spearmen to defend against ai stacks
5. Buy suicide units Cats work to weaken enemy stacks, but since you're always on enemy territory that will only slow them down. Buy whatever you need to destroy enemy stacks

 

[Traitorfish]

In every game played so far, my first target has been Monty. His cities invariably have a minimum of 3-4 Archers, plus a couple of his Quecha warriors.

Quechas are Huayna Capac (Inca) which replace Warriors. Monty has Jaguar Warriors which replace Swordsmen.

 

[Say_my_name]

@Arnesson
afaik, you can't help getting technologically trounced, if you take a while you will fight longbows, elephants, macemen, and worse. I once was separated from Catherine by Mao, Julius Caesar Cyrus and Monty, so by the time I got to her I'd fought immortals, elephants, chokonus, praets, knights and musketmen. And then to kill her off I suicided dozens of spearmen against her Cossacks!!!

I know that, it's the reason why I ALWAYS try to go for Mansa Musa and Ghandi first. They are the biggest tech whores around, and if you let them stay peaceful long enough you WILL have to fight against Riflemen or even more advanced units, and then it gets pretty hopeless.

 

[ggganz]

You get more money for pillaging in Barb scenario than in regular game. I wonder if that means that Barbs in regular game also get more money from pillaging than actual civs do?