WC 2006 draw

well, actually they're already qualified. It's just that if they're not present on the WC, it must be because of some war or something. :p
 
Although then again there probably wouldn't be a world cup either in that situation...
 
Originally posted by Zwelgje
The Czech Republic, again... :ack:

Indeed :aargh:.

Against Romania should be interesting, though IIRC we beat them comprehensively the last time we played (before Euro 2000 I think ?). Finland is going to be tough too, though I'm not sure Litmanen is going to continue as an international by the time the matches start.

I'm also wondering which of the current crop of Dutch internationals are going into internatonal retirement after Euro 2004 - the Dutch team may not be as strong then as it is/should be now.
 
My opinion is: for all that weren't in position 1 (I mean in the best quality footy nation in this draw) - only important thing is not to be in group with Italia, England (and Germany, 'tho not this time) becouse that mean one place for final turnament 100% occupy!
ALL the rest of solution are more or less with good chance for qualify, if the Country (anyone) is in first 3 or 4 quality group.
Well...it's more fact than my jugment :p
 
Originally posted by Håkon
Slovenia and Belarus too, Inter. Slovenia always do better than you think, Belarus are hard to beat at home. Moldova is a walker. I think Scotland will be fourth behind Norway, they were less than impressive in their Euro group, in the play-off, and in a friendly against Norway in August.

My predictions for Group 6:

1) Italy, 2) Slovenia, 3) Norway, 4) Scotland, 5) Belarus, 6) Moldova.


Norway weren't exactly great in that match either. I mean, they came across one of the worst defences in northern Europe, and failed to score :eek:
 
Originally posted by Dell19
Hmm well that post left me confused...

Don't know what is confusing?

Let me clear.

England, Italy and Germany were everytime at final turnament. They are by far the best Foot.Nat.Team no matter what are opinion of some people on this site or alse (you may like 'em or not but that another question). So they are very quality and very "stable" in that quality (hope I choose the right word) so I don't see this three, in this case two, team not qualify for this tournament which mean in those group will be very hard to go further than in the others.

Beside that expiriance from national team of my country were like that. We qualify several times against France or Spain etc. as a leaders in qualification but I can not remmember that we do such thing among those three teams or at least we qualified both.
I can not imagine that they will be fail right now for the first time.
Thats why I think the group with England and Italy are the tuffest of all.
On the other hand second example for my statment are all other group: G2 -> All four first team have the same chance to succssead Tur. Den. Gre. Ukr. ! And same for others non Ita. or Eng. group.

Is that clear now dell :) ?

And excuse me if I'm wrong.
 
Ok that explains it now, I wasn't sure what you meant in your second paragraph...
 
Originally posted by willemvanoranje
well, actually they're already qualified. It's just that if they're not present on the WC, it must be because of some war or something. :p

Hm. Most of the times there is no WC when Germany is at war.
Anyway, czech republic AGAIN! I think the dutch and czech team are fairly even, so I'm not complaining... but what are the odds that you get them 3 times in a row? Disturbing...
 
Its odd because even with the teams being in separate pots, there is no real reason for them to be drawn together unless there is a far more complex drawing system where teams are drawn together on ability... So you must just be unlucky...
 
Actually, there was. England, Italy, France and Spain weren't allowed to be in groups of seven teams, they had to be in groups of six. Think it's due to these nations having extremely good club teams, so players won't get overworked. Anyway, it caused Norway to get Italy instead of Turkey (I think)...and when the Netherlands were drawn into group 1, they had 1/4 of a chance of drawing the Czechs, instead of 1/8 as it should have been. However, had they been drawn into groups 4-8, they'd be almost certain to draw either France, Italy or Spain - I dunno what you'd prefer :)
 
Ah so that goes so far in explaining why some teams do tend to be drawn together quite often.
 
I think this system was new for this World Cup...I've never heard of it before, and neither had the TV commentators, I just figured it out off the Internet afterwards :)
 
It's a stupid system.
A large portion of the Dutch players plays abroad in those heavy competitions. Same goes for quite some other smaller countries. Blah...
 
Hey, actually, it doesn't put anybody at a disadvantage - it just rigs the draw a bit more. But, considering that Groups 1, 2, 3 were just as likely to contain more "difficult" teams than Groups 4,5,6,7,8 it doesn't give these four teams (ENG, ITA, FRA, ESP) an unfair advantage.
 
Is that an advantage? It's just against Andorra, San Marino or Luxembourg anyway - you could put out RBC and win that game.
 
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