Were Dinosaurs Hunted to Extinction? Inquiring minds want to know!

CavLancer

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Some say humanity wasn't around back the despite all the contrary evidence, but no. Aliens, s p a c e aliens on dinosaur hunting sabbaticals, their every seven year right of passage. Come to Earth, drop a T Rex or velociraptor, then back to learning how to make cakes, lovely, yummy cakes throughout the galaxy. The galaxy has a huge sweet tooth and the dino hunters make the very best. Unfortunately they hunted the dinos out of existance and gave rise to humanity which they now hunt, mostly in national forests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Paulides

So, what do you think?
 
CavLancer said:
Some say humanity wasn't around back the despite all the contrary evidence, but no. Aliens, s p a c e aliens on dinosaur hunting sabbaticals, their every seven year right of passage. Come to Earth, drop a T Rex or velociraptor, then back to learning how to make cakes, lovely, yummy cakes throughout the galaxy. The galaxy has a huge sweet tooth and the dino hunters make the very best. Unfortunately they hunted the dinos out of existance and gave rise to humanity which they now hunt, mostly in national forests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Paulides

So, what do you think?
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Humans and dinosaurs did not coexist. IF aliens visited Earth during the Triassic, Jurassic, or Cretaceous, they didn't leave any evidence of it, or at least none that any reputable paleontologist, archaeologist, or geologist has discovered.

As for this... individual... I can only think that he must have watched the episode of The Six Million Dollar Man that included both space aliens and a sasquatch, and mistook it for a documentary. :coffee:
 
It's not about humans, Valk...

CavLancer said:
Some say humanity wasn't around back the despite all the contrary evidence, but no. Aliens, s p a c e aliens on dinosaur hunting sabbaticals, their every seven year right of passage. Come to Earth, drop a T Rex or velociraptor, then back to learning how to make cakes, lovely, yummy cakes throughout the galaxy. The galaxy has a huge sweet tooth and the dino hunters make the very best. Unfortunately they hunted the dinos out of existance and gave rise to humanity which they now hunt, mostly in national forests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Paulides

So, what do you think?
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After careful reading, I think you're ranting.
 
Valka D'Ur said:
Humans and dinosaurs did not coexist.
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Well, this is the current narrative, yes. And according to how we use these two terms, "humans" and "dinosaurs", in common parlance, it's entirely correct, I think.

But, in a sense, humans did exist then. Or at least human ancestors existed then. Species don't appear out of nothing, however we look at it. And I see no real reason to restrict the word "human" to modern homo sapiens.

And dinosaurs are flitting about my garden (and whistling), even as I sit here and type.
 
"but but but ... Adam and Eve's children needed to eat something, when they were forced out of the Garden of Eden. Dinosaurs they must have been. Why are all them bones so easily found?" - YEC says.
 
So, did you folks fathers never hug you or hug you too much? If so, you may be descended from s p a c e aliens and still not believe!

But that's another thread...

I mean just because the guy went hunting for bigfoot does that make his more recent efforts of missing persons in national forests etc less credible? Well okay, maybe it does, but still, its...well he was a cop ya know. Selling a million books...

Kind of fun. :)

Here he is on "Scary missing person cases!!" Its a radio show so you can turn it up and do the dishes or mop the floor or some such. :b:
 
Borachio said:
Well, this is the current narrative, yes. And according to how we use these two terms, "humans" and "dinosaurs", in common parlance, it's entirely correct, I think.

But, in a sense, humans did exist then. Or at least human ancestors existed then. Species don't appear out of nothing, however we look at it. And I see no real reason to restrict the word "human" to modern homo sapiens.

And dinosaurs are flitting about my garden (and whistling), even as I sit here and type.
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Nothing even remotely resembling humans existed back then, including apes. Dinosaurs appeared during the Jurrasic period, 199-146 million years ago and died out 65M years ago. That is except for the ancestors of the birds in your garden. Primates appeared 75 M years ago during the time when dinosaurs were dying off. Apes: 25 M. Homininae: 8M, Hominini: 5.8M, Hominina: 2.5M, Homo: .5M, Modern humans: .2M.
 
^ But the same extinction event which caused most of dinosaurs to become extinct, caused some of dinosaurs to evolve into birds.

Only those which adapted could survive, and they adapted by becoming smaller and gradually changing into what we know as birds.
 
The smaller ones survived and eventually evolved into what we know today as birds.
 
Formaldehyde said:
Nothing even remotely resembling humans existed back then, including apes. Dinosaurs appeared during the Jurrasic period, 199-146 million years ago and died out 65M years ago. That is except for the ancestors of the birds in your garden. Primates appeared 75 M years ago during the time when dinosaurs were dying off. Apes: 25 M. Homininae: 8M, Hominini: 5.8M, Hominina: 2.5M, Homo: .5M, Modern humans: .2M.
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(*sigh* This is going to fall on deaf ears, I think. But I'll try again anyway.)

No, indeed. I agree. But the remote ancestor of modern humans was around at the time of the dinosaurs. Something resembling the desman, iirc. As for resemblances, all mammals resemble each other extremely closely.

I'm nit-picking I know, but I don't see any reason not to call ancestors of modern humans "human". I know it's a taxonomic issue as much as anything, but to think of humans suddenly appearing ex nihilo gives a wrong impression, imo.

The human lineage goes right back to the dawn of life on Earth (and beyond). How can it be otherwise?
 
Sure. We all resemble unicellular organisms because we consist of cells. And humans are clearly more related to other mammals than they are to birds.

But I disagree that in a sense humans existed back then. That all other mammals which preceded us on our own evolutionary path are human. YMMV.
 
Borachio said:
(*sigh* This is going to fall on deaf ears, I think. But I'll try again anyway.)

No, indeed. I agree. But the remote ancestor of modern humans was around at the time of the dinosaurs. Something resembling the desman, iirc. As for resemblances, all mammals resemble each other extremely closely.

I'm nit-picking I know, but I don't see any reason not to call ancestors of modern humans "human". I know it's a taxonomic issue as much as anything, but to think of humans suddenly appearing ex nihilo gives a wrong impression, imo.

The human lineage goes right back to the dawn of life on Earth (and beyond). How can it be otherwise?
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Having just come from watching a Richard Dawkins video and seeing some of the comments on that site, I've about run out of patience.

I'm aware of the basics of how evolution works, thank you. I know we had common ancestry with many lifeforms.

Anything we would NORMALLY regard as human did NOT live during the time of the lifeforms we would NORMALLY consider to be dinosaurs (I did specify the Mesozoic era of Triassic/Jurassic/Cretaceous).

So how about this: We all go back to the Big Bang (and don't anyone be a smart-alec and ask what came before that: that is something religious people are convinced they know and any reputable scientist will acknowledge that we do not yet fully understand). So yeah, why not say there were humans present at the Big Bang. :rolleyes:

I could go with the level of "scholarship" presented by this guy who makes claims of space aliens and just say I know this to be true because in the Doctor Who story "Castrovalva" the Doctor's human companion Tegan Jovanka (Australian stewardess) was there when the Master forced Adric to program the TARDIS to go to that point in space/time.

CavLancer said:
I mean just because the guy went hunting for bigfoot does that make his more recent efforts of missing persons in national forests etc less credible? Well okay, maybe it does, but still, its...well he was a cop ya know. Selling a million books...
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Gene Roddenberry was a cop before he became a TV writer/producer. He may not have sold a million of his own books (just guessing since I don't know offhand how many copies of his novelization of Star Trek: The Motion Picture were sold; I only know that my dad bought one of them for me), but he was ultimately responsible for many millions of other peoples' books being sold.

The difference here seems to be that Gene Roddenberry knew his creation was ultimately a TV show that was, indeed, just fiction.


Most of the ways people disappear in forests/national parks involve them dying of various kinds of natural causes (starvation, hypothermia, dehydration, maybe eating something poisonous), getting killed/eaten by animals, having some kind of accident and dying before/in spite of receiving medical help, falling into a river, lake, stream, or ocean and drowning. And sadly, some of them die because they were murdered by other humans.

I have never heard of a single case confirmed to be death due to "space aliens" or "bigfoot" (aka sasquatch).


(No, I do not have a sense of humor about pseudoscience masquerading as fact.)
 
Pity that. Anyway at least you have picked up about what the thread is about.

I'm not so quick to dismiss stuff since stuff has occurred in my own life, none of which can be proven. :dunno:

So a guy comes on and tells the world he's on to something about people missing in national forests, well okay, my first reaction might not be, 'do you have proof'.

Nothing can actually be done about it anyway. I see a ghost what to do? Cannot call ghostbusters. See a UFO what could the airforce do about it besides cover it up? Admit they are powerless? Same with abductions, should they say that yes, people are being abducted and no, there's not a damn thing we can do about it? We the people would lose the perception that we have some control over our lives.

Even if somehow the government could prove these things they would never say a word. 'Yes they exist and that's all we know.' The conversation always ends here. We can't find out anything more, its a dead end, at least during this life. Hopefully with what comes next we won't need proof, we'll be able to believe each other.


...and no I don't believe humans and dinosaurs coexisted on this planet. The really big nasty ones anyway.
 
By Marvin the Martian, maybe. Fred Flintstone didn't strike as much of a hunter.
 
The dinosaurs were the aliens, they came here for a vacation (see the hot springs, local wildlife, etc.), but then some guy messed up and the mothership crashed on the planet and ruined everyone's day. One of the dinosaurs was an evil genius type scientist, his brilliant idea was to turn the survivors into birds. So now we have birds, but they're stupid, because the evil scientist messed up his calculations, because he was on alien dinosaur drugs at the time.

QED

CavLancer said:
I'm not so quick to dismiss stuff since stuff has occurred in my own life, none of which can be proven. :dunno:
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Yeahhhh stuff can be proven, and stuff. That's how we know when the dinosaurs were alive and stuff and why we are capable of building toasters and spaceships and understand concepts like tectonic plate movements and the evolution of alien dinosaurs into stupid birds that we can eat.
 
Why in the world would some sophisticated alien predator want to hunt typically unarmed hikers? The premise for the Hollywood flicks was far better than that.

I guess you could argue that it was Bigfoot. But then you have to dismiss the obvious fact that no evidence of him being real even exists. That supposedly makes far more sense than people die in the wild all the time for various reasons?
 
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