WH BTS new flags

[Psychic_Llamas]

Hey everyone, im working on making new flags for all of the civilisations in the Warhammer Beyond the Sword mod and id really like your input of which ones should go in.

I have compiled lots of different images that i think would be suitable for each civilisation, now all i need to do is pick one. thats where you guys come in, i need votes of which images would be best for each civ.

Some civs i only have 1 image, this is only because i could find no other ones that i thought looked any good, that means that if you know of a good picture that would make a good flag, then please post it along with which civs you think it should belong to, then i will add it to the list

i will begin making the flags on next wednesday at the latest whether there are votes or not. any civ not voted one will have their flag chosen by me
so remember to vote for all of the civs.

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

The attachments show each civs name and their flags are directly beneath them. when voting please type the civs name and then the flag number (number 1 on the left increasing to the right.

the list of civs is below.

Human Civs:

Amazons:
Araby:
Albion:
Bretonnia:
Cathay:
Empire :
Estalia:
Ind:
Kislev :
Nippon :
Norse:
The Kurgan:
The Hung:
Tilea:

Other races

Chaos:
Chaos Dwarfs:
Darkelves:
Dwarfs:
Ogre Lords:
The Greenskin Hordes:
Highelves:
Hobgoblin Hegemony:
Tombkings:
Lhamia:
Lizardmen:
Beasts of Chaos:
Skaven:
Sylvanians:
Woodelves:

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

Ok, ive found a few good looking Skaven flags, what do you think? im not too sure which would suit which clan best so ill leave that up to skaven experts *looks at AH* (see first thumbnail below)

 

[Ploeperpengel]

Please also take into account the flags already in WH warlords(i.e. I'd like to keep the chaosbanner for the Kurgan, the Hung also need some more evil look than just asian writing, I think the orcbanner is fine as it is, the croaked moon I need for a goblinciv though that would be cool). Many of those will have to be redone/polished but we should decide which ones to keep from there. For now I'd advise to concentrate on civs we don't have flags for yet.
About Skaven and Lizardmen:
There will be two lizardman empires on the map on in Lustria and one in the southlands.
For Skaven I suggest we take a flag of one clan that can either be Moulder, Pestilense or Eshin but not Skyre(I think about having those three clans on the final map and have clan Skyre represented in another way but let's first concentrate on one clan only) - yes AH skavendesign can start finally. The old world is just too stuffed with civs to have Skavenblight as capital - Skavenblight can be a spawningpool for barbskaven but not more in this scenario.

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

ok, so new Hung, 3 new skaven, 2 new lizards? ill get on it now

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

Well, ive been having a play around with the flags, and have so far gotten 6 civs flags into the game hassle free (buttons and all). ive attached a preview below. any comments, creative criticism are welcome

starting from left to right: Woodelf, Highelf, Dwarf, Bretonnia, Empire, Tilea

 

[Ploeperpengel]

At first glance doesn't look bad but can you make bigger pics it's hard to judge if that small. The lower left(Bretonnia?) one looks a bit stretched. Are they all teamcolored? because they look a bit (how to say?) strong colored?

Or just send your Flagtest minimod here instread of pics. I can say better which ones are fine or would need improvement when I see them in game

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

well the pictures are a big as they can get at them moment, (if i resize any of them they will get into the distorting areas of the flag and look crappy) your right about the Bretonnia flag though it does look a bit stretched. i also think ill movethe Empire one up a tad (i also noticed that image is the same one you have for the sigmar religion, we should change one to a twin tailed comet if possible).

yeh, they are team coloured, but i fiddled around with the civilization colours so i could see what they look like with something other than white as the background (they are using the secondary colour as the background because if i try with the primary it screws around the image for some reason and most secondary colours are white or black )

Do you mean the backgrounds are strong coloured? or the images? because you will have to change all the backgrounds when you install them into the beta so thats not a problem really (is it?)

ill post the minimod here later on (ill do some more trials).

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

Ok Pole, here is the mini mod wit hsome of the flags in the game

CLICK

all the other flags images are in there too, but most arnt in .dds format yet.

PS i found a different picture we can use for the sigmar based religion, its in the Empire folder in that DL, that way the Empire civ and religion wont look the same. i also posted it in the religions thread

please tell me what you think

@ EVERYONE: i need to here peoples opinions or i wil just make them all how i think they should be. and some people might not want that

 

[Ploeperpengel]

I personally don't have a problem using a similar symbol for the empireflag and salvation. The two tailed comet still might show up in the techtree instead but I don't want to redo all the gamefonts because of this.
About the empireflag I still need to decide wether I will use charlemagneunits for it or not. So I leave it open for now wether we have to use a teamcolorflag for them or not(keep the old no tc or use yours).
As soon I'm home I'll check your flags and give some detailed comment, thx for making them

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

fair enough about the comet.
If you like i can make the old flag into a team colour one if you post the pic that was used to make it

its no problem, im enjoying it actually, makes me feel usefull at last

 

[Ploeperpengel]

PL what's your graphic card specs?

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

My craphics card is a 256MB ATI Radeon X1300PRO.

 

[Ploeperpengel]

Ah ok I guess the fklags that seem broken then are just not finished. I asked because I thought you might have done nonshaderflags.

So to summerize:
Empireflag - needs to be centered
woodelf - nice!
bretonnia - already said but I must say I'd prefer the Lion on blue and red if tc for that is feasible
Highelf - pixeled, and I think the symbol looks a bit too modern(sort WH 40K)
Tilea - broken just primary tc
Dwarf - prefer my old flag, this tc looks too plain(slightly pixeled too), the old flag is fine because they don't need tc anyway
Chaos dwarfs- looks nice allthough I'd prefer a Hashut motive if you can find one
Cathay- love the motive!, just needs some centering, squashing

The rest was broken or not done yet

Pics that would be cool:
Albion - none, won't make it into the game
Amazon - AZ_Flag_3.jpg
Araby - don't like the pic much, a Flaming Scimitar like earlier we had for Ormuzd would be cool
Estalia - ES_Flag_1.jpg
Goblins - The moon would be perfect
Orcs are fine as they are in warlords
Kislev - prefer the simplistic flag we have in warlords
Kurgan - get warlords chaos flag
Lahmia - your pic looks great
Lustria - LL_Flag_2.jpg(TC! version will be used for Southlands as well)
Hung - Flag 1 would be fine
Nippon - prefer warlordsversion
Norse should get a ravenbanner(like pediaentry), or crow
Ind- maybe some vishnu symbol

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

thanks for the feedback, ill get onto that tomorrow afternoon.

what do you mean Albion wont make it into the game ? oh well. ill have to make a mini mod later for them once the conversion is over

i had forgotten about the flaming scimitar

so you only want the 1 flag for lizardmen (both continents?)

there was a good raven one somewhere, ill try find it again

vishnu it is.

 

[Ploeperpengel]

thanks for the feedback, ill get onto that tomorrow afternoon.

what do you mean Albion wont make it into the game ? oh well. ill have to make a mini mod later for them once the conversion is over

i had forgotten about the flaming scimitar

so you only want the 1 flag for lizardmen (both continents?)

there was a good raven one somewhere, ill try find it again

vishnu it is.

Yeah there's no point to create another civ that's totally similar to lustria except the leader.
Sorry about Albion but 3 or 4 maptiles isn't enough place for a whole civ to settle upon. We can at least have the Great Ogham as unique feature on that isle

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

fair enough

 

[Psychic_Llamas]

HERE is the updated flag mod

 

[Ploeperpengel]

HERE is the updated flag mod

Wow you have been busy, thx

 

[Ploeperpengel]

Ok unfortunatly the charlemagneunits don't support flags with the whiteflagboolean set to 1. This means if I want to use them the civ's flag can only have two colors in total. I made a bretonnian flag that's plain blue(primary TC) with a golden lion(secondary TC yellow) and won't use charlemagneunits for other civs so we can have flags that are fancy for them. Charlemagneunits are just a must have for bretonnia.
That means also I will stick to the old sigmarflag of the empire so you don't need to work on that one.
I polished the tileaflag a bit and it's fine now.
The amazonflag I can use as it is submitted.

More later