beefonthebone, i should have known someone with zoidbberg as their avatar would beat me to the punch. i was reading along thinking "i can't believe no one suggested slavery". fish, crabs, and clams? that's big time hammers once you begin the creul oppression! of course, the total inability to explore or even meet other civs (most likely) will cripple you to the point of no-victory-possible, especially since no matter how much culture you get, it'll remain a fat cross, since culture only goes 2 tiles over water.