What If Al Gore Was President?

[cgannon64]

How do you think good old Al would have handled 9/11? Iraq? The bad economy? Now, lets not turn this into a Republican/Domcratic debate. Just look at Gore's policies in the past and guess what he would do now. I don't want to hear a single "Uh, Gore would suck, b/c he's Democrat and they're stupid." Or other stuff like that.

CG

 

[amadeus]

After September 11th...I don't think we would have invaded Afghanistan. We'd probably end up trying to "cooperate" with the Taliban.

Iraq would be off everyone's mind, and Hussein would be well on his way to a nuclear bomb. He'd probably have it before 2005.

The bad economy started in the Clinton years, and Bush's economic policy hasn't had time to "kick in" yet. It also took two years for the Reagan plan to start.

As Sultan Bhargash said before, the Dow Jones is an indicator of good economic policy. Well, averaged out, the Dow Jones grows at 20 percent under Republican administration, a mere 6 under Democratic.

 

[Toasty]

Things would not have worked out any differently up until now. Gore would have been forced to take decisive action after September 11th, and is no more righteous a man than the overlord of stupidity Bush. The difference is that he would probably be focusing on things more serious than Iraq, like the economy, and larger threats such as Saudi Arabia, Libya, and Pakistan.

 

[HotDog Fish]

Originally posted by Toasty
Things would not have worked out any differently up until now. Gore would have been forced to take decisive action after September 11th, and is no more righteous a man than the overlord of stupidity Bush. The difference is that he would probably be focusing on things more serious than Iraq, like the economy, and larger threats such as Saudi Arabia, Libya, and Pakistan.

I agree, no major foreign policy would have changed but do beleive domestic policy would

 

[newfangle]

1) Less spending into useless things such as clean coal.
2) Less relation with Saudis, as the demand for oil would lesson with stronger tax incentives for renewable energy.
3) No debate over Iraq because he would see no threat, and the subject would never surface.
4) Recession has nothing to do with Clinton, and there is no relation between government changes and Dow Jones average. The internet boom/bust followed by 11/9 had the largest impacts on the economy.

 

[newfangle]

Originally posted by rmsharpe


As Sultan Bhargash said before, the Dow Jones is an indicator of good economic policy. Well, averaged out, the Dow Jones grows at 20 percent under Republican administration, a mere 6 under Democratic.

So the Dow Jones has been growing somewhere between 6 and 20% since its inception? Correct me if I'm wrong, bust hasn't it FALLEN something like 20% in the last year.

 

[Switch625]

He said "AVERAGED." You know full well that averages are made up of highs and lows. Besides, the economy is still dealing with Clintonian policies. Bush is only now starting to have an effect on the economy. Whether it is a good or bad effect, we shall see.

 

[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

If Gore was running the country, we would have the most dangerous man ever, a man that would lie right to your face to get what he was after, and think nothing of it.

There is also an excellent chance he would have used extreme measures such as nuclear arms against Afghanistan, when he was #2 he preferred his leader's tactic of not getting one's hands dirty, it's much better to launch a cruise missle into an aspirin factory...er, ...eh...that is a "terror factory" then to act with reponcibility and restraint.

Friend Gore seems to have no trouble taking money from agents of China, because there is no "effective, conviening authority" to stop him, if I remember his convoluted phrasology correctly, and he also seems to have a number of memory lapses, such as "My grandmother sang 'look for the union label song' to me a s a child", yet that jingle was composed in 1975, and Gore was a full grown adult.
He states he's a Veteran of Vietnam, but fails to mention he spent his 6 months there in a heavily defended compound, which he never left.
Then there is his tail about how he's the inspiration for the book and movie "Love story".
My personal favorite is his claim to have invented the Internet, despite the fact the US military did this in 1967.

And people say Bush is a Christian conservative, do they know that Gore's wife Tipper, WITH HIS FULL SUPPORT, tried to censor music and control what you can hear, only things that suited her?
Yep, it's true, the Gores did exactly this back in the 1980s.

I could go on and on about this man, probaly the most dishonest man ever to serve as Vice President of the United States.

THIS is the man so many of you just jumped up and said would be better then Bush!

 

[ApocalypseKurtz]

Originally posted by Alcibiaties of Athenae

He states he's a Veteran of Vietnam, but fails to mention he spent his 6 months there in a heavily defended compound, which he never left.

I never heard this, but I'll take your word for it. Still, its better than GWB who due to his connections never had to even GO to Vietnam and instead was flyin planes in the Texas Air National Guard. Being in Vietnam, in a "heavily defended compound" still means you were in the war, in Vietnam.

 

[amadeus]

Neither Bush nor Gore were war heroes of any sort...but, neither was Franklin Roosevelt.

 

[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

Originally posted by ApocalypseKurtz
I never heard this, but I'll take your word for it. Still, its better than GWB who due to his connections never had to even GO to Vietnam and instead was flyin planes in the Texas Air National Guard. Being in Vietnam, in a "heavily defended compound" still means you were in the war, in Vietnam.

He was in a place that was so safe they never even heard distant shellfire, at a time the NLF had scaled down ops for the peace talks, and Nixon was concentrating on bombing the north.

Every Veteran I know laugh at him, that's not being in a war, the only thing he was in danger of was getting a paper cut!

Here is an example of our "hero" in action:

http://www.informamerica.com/Al Gore's Military Record Profiled.htm

Al Gore's Military Record Profiled

Vice President Al Gore once wrote that the U.S. military was a "fascist, totalitarian" institution, reports former ABC News correspondent and Gore biographer Bob Zelnick in this week's issue of National Review.

Gore offered his scathing appraisal of America's army in a letter he sent to his father after enlisting during the height of the Vietnam War. Gore "despised" U.S. involvement in Vietnam but decided to join up, Zelnick says, for one reason and one reason only: to save his father's U.S. Senate seat.

Zelnick confirms that Gore toyed with the idea of fleeing the country to avoid service - with his mother offering to accompany him if he decided to bolt. But finally politics took precedence, and Gore joined up to help his father just one jump ahead of his Tennessee draft board.

"Canada was, of course, far fetched; there were plenty of other ways to avoid military service," Zelnick writes. "But in the end, Gore decided to join the Army in an unsuccessful effort to save his father's seat."

Zelnick said that neither he nor onetime Gore profiler David Halberstam could find any contemporaneous evidence that Gore joined to spare others the risks of Vietnam, as the Vice President would later claim to reporters.

Gore's 1969 attack on the Army as fascistic and totalitarian is sure to remind many of the letter his boss Bill Clinton wrote the same year, where he thanked Arkansas ROTC Col. Eugene Holmes for "saving me from the draft" and confessed that he sympathized with those who "loathed the military."

Zelnick spoke to many of the Vice President's Vietnam-era friends and could find no evidence to back reports that Gore had used political pull to win his relatively safe job as a military reporter. But the former ABC newsman evidently did not interview H. Alan Leo, one of several of the Vice President's Vietnam colleagues, who told the Los Angeles Times last month that they were assigned to keep Gore from getting hurt during his five-month tour in Southeast Asia.

As a US Veteran, I find this guy a piece of crap.
Bush served in the Air National Guard, no more a warrior then Gore, but he never tried to play at saying he was a veteran, GORE did that.

For those that think Al would save the environment, let's look at Gore's record, from a site that has no love for Bush:

http://www.debatethis.org/gore/

Lot's of fun stuff, and all on the record.

 

[newfangle]

Its a tie between Bush and Gore. They both lose.

 

[Alcibiaties of Athenae]

I have been subtly trying to tell you this all along Newfangle, Gore is no better, and actually much worse, if you look at his record.

You can say a lot of rotten things about Bush, but most is just heresay and sour grapes, but LOOK at Gore's record, THERE is the danger.
The man is totally dishonest and lacks integrity.

 

[newfangle]

Originally posted by Alcibiaties of Athenae
I have been subtly trying to tell you this all along Newfangle, Gore is no better, and actually much worse, if you look at his record.

You can say a lot of rotten things about Bush, but most is just heresay and sour grapes, but LOOK at Gore's record, THERE is the danger.
The man is totally dishonest and lacks integrity.

Obviously, the primary factor influencing my beliefs is environmentalism. I honestly believe that Gore, even if only marginally, is better than Bush. But since he is not president, nor will he ever be, there is no need to make predictions.

What America does need is President Bartlet from The West Wing. I could see him getting 60%-70% of the vote.

 

[The Troquelet]

My views on the two candidates are as follows: anyone who thinks Al Gore would have done a better job than George Bush DESERVES to have George Bush as President... and that's SAYING something

 

[Furry Spatula]

Quite simply put, the Americans would be F***ed and the rest of the world would be safe.

 

[knowltok2]

Originally posted by newfangle
What America does need is President Bartlet from The West Wing. I could see him getting 60%-70% of the vote.

And your thoughts on his assassination of a foreign leader? His intellect is fine, but I am actually finding it a bit predictable and unoriginal that they are rerunning the 2000 campaign. Give me something new, take a stab at 2004, or something.

 

[gr8ful wes]

Originally posted by Alcibiaties of Athenae


And people say Bush is a Christian conservative, do they know that Gore's wife Tipper, WITH HIS FULL SUPPORT, tried to censor music and control what you can hear, only things that suited her?
Yep, it's true, the Gores did exactly this back in the 1980s.

the Good ol PMRC, Frank Zappa is turning over in his grave.

 

[Kennelly]

I'm pretty sure US-European relations would be better as Gore

1)would at least have declared suppport for Kyoto (even if Congress hadn't ratified it)
2)would surely not have retaken Clintons sign under the ICC treaty,though he would certainly have tried to modify it
3)would in General be more open to international treaties (Bio weapons,Johannesburg,etc.)

after all,results of treaties for America would almost be the same,but we Europeans wouldn't be so annoyed like many are with Bush who hasn't shown much diplomatic intelligence in transatlantic relations

 

[vonork]

International relations might have been better, but a republican can probobly be softer then a democrat in times of crises...

I wonder how it had been if Powel had been president?