What is the meaning of collateral damage?

[larry999]

I see the bombard unit have an ability of collateral damage, but what is it?
Thank you

 

[CGM3]

It means that, when the unit attacks a stack of enemy units, there's a chance it will do some damage to each unit, not just the one it "fights".

 

[Samson]

I see the bombard unit have an ability of collateral damage, but what is it?
Thank you

When you attack with a collateral damage unit, other enemy units on the same tile take some damge (1/7th of the total strength I think?). There is a max number on units that can take collateral damage, and a maximum damage that can be done.

It is vey powerfull when taking well defended cities. Say the AI has 6 longbows in the capital. If you attack with 1 to 3 catapults before you start with your macemen they will all be significantly damaged. You will lose you catapults, but probably not your macemen.

 

[larry999]

thank you for your reply, one more question:
the presentage beside collateral damge, does it means the chance to cause collateral damage, or the presentgae of power base on its strength?

 

[Samson]

thank you for your reply, one more question:
the presentage beside collateral damge, does it means the chance to cause collateral damage, or the presentgae of power base on its strength?

Where is the percentage? I have not noticed it. As far as I am aware, the units allways cause collateral damage. It could be the maximum damage that it can do (50% with bombers, these are the only ones I have got to the limit with). Are you sure you are not looking at the bomberd city defences percentage?

 

[larry999]

when you promote the bombard unit, you would have a choice of the abilities, one of them is barrage ability, it enhace the presentage of collatercal damege 20. So what does it mean?

 

[gunkulator]

IIRC, each unit that can cause collateral damage has two percentages: one that defines the strength used to calculate the collateral damage and another defining the maximum amount of damage that can be caused.

Catapults, for instance, have STR=5 and a collateral damage strength of 100%, which again means 5. The max damage they can do via collateral damage is 50% (I think - I'm doing this from memory).

Chu-Ko-Nus have STR=6, collateral damage strength of 50%, meaning 3. Max collateral damage is 60%.

Tanks have STR=28, collateral damage strength of 0%, meaning 0 - no collateral damage by default. I forget the max damage. If you give your Tank Barrage I+II, it will have a collateral damage strength of 50% (20% + 30%), meaning 14. So, yes, Tanks can cause quite a lot of collateral damage, but most of us don't notice because we're too busy giving them City Raider promotions.

 

[chronicdog]

Cats and Arty are the bomb for taking out stacks of troops, either in cities or raoming armies. I usually suicide 3-5 siege weapons on a big stack or city to soften them up before attacking with my other high level units.

COLLATERAL DAMAGE RULES

 

[Dominico]

Catapults dont always die when you attack cities! They ahve a chance to retreat, i think its as high as 20%.

I often get catapults surviving, and i often use horse with the flank manouver in attacks on strong enemies, caus they have a high chance to run for cover when losing Its depressing when these highly promoted units do get killed though.

 

[Mango]

I've been known to send stacks made up of 50% cats and trebs. Trebs get 100% city attack so they're essentially 10 strength since that's all I use them for. Just wheel everything up to the city, bombard down to 0 and then whack them with your seige weapons. If you're not using this strategy then you're wasting units. You can take a Civ with half the units you would normally build if you send a bunch of seige weapons with you.

 

[Mewtarthio]

Tanks have STR=28, collateral damage strength of 0%, meaning 0 - no collateral damage by default. I forget the max damage. If you give your Tank Barrage I+II, it will have a collateral damage strength of 50% (20% + 30%), meaning 14. So, yes, Tanks can cause quite a lot of collateral damage, but most of us don't notice because we're too busy giving them City Raider promotions.

I always have a good number of Tanks with Barrage. Generally, I try to even it out between that and CR.