What wonders are missing from Civ4?

[Swein Forkbeard]

I would like to know your opinion here, but here's what I think.

Brandenburg Gate
Fowl Manor
Millenium Tower
Hotel Denouement
East India Trading Company
Pyramid of Kukulckan (renamed Chichen Itza)
Wat Phrea Pisnulok (renamed Angkor Wat)
SETI

 

[dragodon64]

The Condom

 

[Lightwave]

Initially I was thinking "What wonder is not in the game?" There are none. I have characterized the number of wonders in CivIV as "wonder spam," but the good side is that it has helped me move away from trying to build every one of them (even though I still play Industrious leaders ).

To answer the question though... thinking...

1. Mars Mission would be a great addition to "lead up" to the Alpha Centauri colony launch.
2. Hoover Dam - as a National Wonder with a lesser effect than 3 Gorges Dam
3. Jefferson National Expansion Memorial (The Gateway Arch in central USA)
If you wanted to stretch the notion a little...
4. Tokamak Fusion Reactor for a viable (not actually there yet though) fusion reactor just before entering Future Tech. (Yes, I know most will say "why bother," but I am just throwing ideas out in answer to the question.)
5. Panama Canal or one of the "big" canals - perhaps as a National Wonder?

Some of them are "small," but the game already has a selection of smaller and less well known "wonders," so they are not as much of a stretch as would have been the case in previous games.

 

[Scaramanga]

One that came instantly to mind was the Crystal Palace. Not sure what it would do. +100% production with iron.

 

[Locutus]

Oh gods, I've collected a list of hundreds of wonders over the years that I can draw from depending on what function I need them to have. Some of my favourites:

Wonder			Location		Time period (of active use)

Defuffa			Kerma, Sudan		1750 BC-400 AD
Apadana Palace		Persepolis, Iran	515-331 BC
Terracotta Army		Xian, China		246-209 BC
Kalasaya		Tiwanaku, Bolivia	200 BC-1000 AD
Sri Ranganathaswamy	Srirangam, India	100 BC-present
Pyramid of the Sun	Teotihuacan, Mexico	100-800 AD
Borobudur		Magelang, Indonesia	800 AD-????
Sidi Okba Mosque	Kairouan, Tunesia	863 AD-present
Nan Madol		Pohnpei, Micronesia	900-1500 AD
Great Zimbabwe		Zimbabwe, Zimbabwe	1000 AD-????
San Marco Basilica	Venice, Italy		1063 AD-present
Itsukushima Shrine	Hatsukaichi, Japan	1168 AD-present
Registan		Samarkand, Uzbekistan	1370 AD-present
Porcelain Tower		Nanjing, China		1400-1856 AD
Macchu Piccu		Macchu Piccu, Peru	1450-1550 AD
Topkapi Palace		Istanbul, Turkey	1459-1853 AD
Meenakshi Amman Temple	Madurai, India		1565 AD-present
Potala Palace		Lhasa, Tibet		1650-1959 AD
Reichstag		Berlin, Germany		1872 AD-present
Sagrada Familia		Barcelona, Spain	1882 AD-present
Panama Canal		Panama, Panama		1904 AD-present
Delta Works		Zealand, Netherlands	1953 AD-present
NORAD			Cheyenne Mountain, USA	1966 AD-present
Opera House		Sydney, Australia	1966 AD-present
Petronas Towers		Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	1993 AD-present
Palm Islands		Dubai, UAE		2001 AD-present

But frankly, there are too many wonders in the game already, so you'd have to be very picky about which of these you'd actually want to include (there's some room for removing some of the lamer existing ons though).

 

[OKScientist]

The Omega LASER system,
at LAb of LASER Energetics, Rochester, New York. AFAIK, it's the most powerful LASER in the world, at least it used to be, a few years ago.

Here is the link:
www.lle.rochester.edu/02_visitors/02_aboutlle.html

Notes:
World wonder
Available with: LASER
Effect: since it is a very late wonder, I suggest it provides the builder with a free great engineer. Anything else wouldn't make much sense at that point.

 

[Polycrates]

Petra in Jordan is seriously the most incredible thing I've ever seen, and definitely worth wonderhood
Macchu Picchu in Peru is amazing, mostly just for the feat of building something like that in that location
Sydney Opera House - I see it all the time, but I'm still always floored by what an incredible bit of architecture it is.

 

[megamold]

omg !
the atomium offcoarse !

http://www.atomium.be/Main.aspx?lang=en

 

[Love]

EMPIRE state BUILDING!

 

[Kelvenor]

The CN Tower but seriously I would like of have a national wonder like InterSate Highway system or Transcanadian Highway that could improve movement beside railroad.

 

[mintyfreshdeath]

The Condom

Here's my list:

1. Futurama seasons 1 and 2
2. Bacon
3. The porn industry

 

[LAnkou]

1. Dragon Ball
2. Led Zeppelin Four Symbols
3. The Art of Stone Skimming

 

[HoMM3 fanatic]

Leonardo´s workshop (could have the same effect as in civ3)
The leaning tower of Pisae
Make Mt. Rushmore world wonder instead of national wonder
Sphinx
and all those research doubler and economy/production boosting wonders from previous civs

 

[Desert-Fox]

You should think what benefit is missing and then find out a wonder what fits well with this.

IMO we have no wonders what...

1) Decrease unit upgrade cost. Leonardo Workshop was in previous games so why not in Civ4 or Civ5? For civ4 it would be Engineering<->Steam Power(Or Electricity).
2) Something what increases defence against spies. Not a good name but would be Code of Laws/Alphabet(Both Required) <-> Democracy(Now you can build security bureaus).

 

[Inspector Javert]

Well the whatchamacallit army could be a good national wonder available with monarchy, and as for my wonders

Talk Radio: 50% Culture in all cities +50% war weariness in enemy cities. (no anti-talk radio flames please) requires radio.


Monticello: Requires democracy, reduces mat. in nearby cities.

World Trade Center: +100% from trade routes in each city +1 great merchant

Alacatraz Prison: Counts as a Jail on every city on continent must be built on the coast.

NORAD: +50% chance of intercepting nukes +1 Great spy

Opera House: Provides 5 great operas +1 great artist

SETI: +25% Spaceship production +1 great scientist

 

[Love]

Alacatraz Prison: Counts as a Jail on every city on continent must be built on the coast.

Add a small chanse of making a group of mercenary terrorists launching biological weapons on the city...

 

[Zenon_pt]

I miss Leonardo´s workshop!!!
I love that effect of reducing by 50% the cost of upgrading!

Adding:
The Sphinx should be add to the Pyramid pack!

Others wonders:

I would love to see on the game:
- the Sydney Opera House (add culture to the civ, plus happiness! Generate a Great Artist);
- The Sagrada Familia of Gaudi in Barcelona (increse religion, can generate a Great Enginner(?) );
- Belém Tower in Lisbon (add 25% defense to coastal city's against sea-unit attacks until Stell, can generate a Great General or Great Merc.).

Small Wonders:
hum...
it's ok by me!!!

 

[Diamondeye]

When we've gone so laughable already, why not the Iron Curtain?

 

[Cytral]

or the Red Light District

 

[MrFelony]

the bean! http://billslater.com/cloudgate/


okay so maybe it's not a wonder, but gotta rep chicago