What's your domination limit?

[superslug]

I think it's a safe assumption most of us are playing Pangaea/Huge maps. I'm just curious what everyone's MapStat domination limits are? Tilewise, not population.

My current game tells me I'll cap out at 3612.

 

[Takeo]

the domination limit on my current warlord game is 3928 and it is a huge/continents map.

 

[superslug]

Originally posted by Takeo
the domination limit on my current warlord game is 3928 and it is a huge/continents map.

3928???!!!

That's almost 10% more than me. You'll be able to squeeze in more population, land and hence points.

I should start running my 4000bc's through MapStat and be more choosy about my maps, huh?

 

[Darkness]

My current warlord game has a domination limit of 3723.

@Takeo: wow, that is awsome, you should be able to outscore my game, based solely on the domination limit, however, pangaea would have been a better choice for a high scoring game, IMHO...

 

[Moonsinger]

In all my games, I have never gotten anything more than 3762. The domination limit for my empire game is 3751.

 

[Takeo]

Originally posted by Darkness

@Takeo: wow, that is awsome, you should be able to outscore my game, based solely on the domination limit, however, pangaea would have been a better choice for a high scoring game, IMHO...

well im about 400 tiles below the domination limit. i played continents so i could quickly destroy everyone on my continent before they met anyone else on the other one. then im keeping everyone happy on the other continent to go for a diplomatic victory. i did get some towns in on the other continent, but not many. at the end of the game i will gift those to the carthage. right now for some reason they are furious with me, but babylon and the arabs aren't. carthage has the least land area right now, so i'll gift those few cities to them to make them the other candidate. the only way i could get up to the limit would be to take carthaginian land, but they need it to be a candidate.

 

[Darkness]

@Takeo: You're playing a risky game here, my friend...
By leaving a couple of AI's in the game uncurbed, you risk them going to war, resulting in a shift in powerbalance, which may even lead to one, quite powerful opponent. IIRC you said this game is at warlord level, so there's no (or very little) risk of them getting a spaceship.

Wouldn't it be a better (safer) idea to just take those 400 tiles you need to get just below the domination limit and raze the rest of the AI cities. Then you just leave 1 small AI city and you get loads of free guest workers. This way you can't get a diplomatic win, but the other 5 victory conditions are possible...

 

[superslug]

Takeo, I think Darkness is right. You should go ahead and finish off the AI completely and leave them only one heavily garrisoned city. You'll not only prevent war, but have the map to yourself and can disband all military except for the AI quarantine.

If you do that, there's no need to worry about a victory condition, just break the Domination limit at the end of 2049...

 

[Takeo]

i have a backup plan of a spaceship to finish on the last turn. i'll just prebuild some large item that can be switched over for the last turn if needed. also have a city going for 20,000 culture to finish at 2050, but have never tried this before and don't know if i could work that one out. i'm trying to play this way cause there isn't another diplo victory on the warlord list and i like the risk. the other 3 civs do not like each other, so i'm sure they would not vote for each other. 2 are polite at the moment and carthage is furious. if carthage does not have the 2nd most land at the end, then i will gift them a bunch of cities to ensure they are a candidate. then declare war on them at the end and bring in the other two. if that doesn't work, then there is the spaceship.

 

[Aeson]

The Domination limit for my old Civ 1.17f Iroquois game was 4752.

 

[superslug]

Originally posted by Aeson
The Domination limit for my old Civ 1.17f Iroquois game was 4752.

I'm curious, Aeson, was that game the game? The legendary 60,000 pointer I've heard of?

 

[Aeson]

Yep. I think 1.21f introduced smaller Huge maps.

 

[superslug]

Originally posted by Aeson
Yep. I think 1.21f introduced smaller Huge maps.

I know that was a change in one of the patches, I guess it was that one...

 

[Darkness]

Yep, that's the one...

 

[Mazarin]

my limit on a huge/60%/pangea is 3669 tiles. I guess that continets will give a higher domination limit because there are more coast tiles.

 

[superslug]

Originally posted by Mazarin
my limit on a huge/60%/pangea is 3669 tiles. I guess that continets will give a higher domination limit because there are more coast tiles.

I'm not sure I follow that thought, water tiles don't count...

 

[Mazarin]

coast tile do count, IIRC. Continents or 'pelageo maps should "need" more coastal tiles to surround the same amount of land than pangea, therefore the domination limit would be bigger.

 

[Darkness]

Ocean and sea do not count for the domination limit, but coast tiles do count!

 

[superslug]

Doh! I was getting confused over my tile definitions!

 

[DaveMcW]

Is mapstat allowed before you know the world map?