When do leader succeed each other?

[apenpaap]

When do leaders succeed each other for each civ? Is it in a set year (if so, which ones?) or does something else (like technologies or conquests or stability) trigger the successions?

 

[Tibur753]

Here is the piece of code in consts.py that contains the leader successions.

Spoiler :

if (gc.getPlayer(0).isPlayable()): #late start condition
        tRomanLateLeaders = (iAugustus, i50AD, 5, 2, iJustinian, i1000AD, 10, 3)
else: 
        tRomanLateLeaders = (iAugustus, i50AD, 5, 2)


tLateLeaders = ( #all up to 300 turns earlier because the switch is triggered after a few years
(iRamesses,), 
(iGandhi, i1700AD, 5, 4),
(iMing_Tai_Zu, i1400AD, 10, 3, iMao, i1800AD, 10, 5),
(iHammurabi, i1600BC, 10, 1),
(iAlexander, i10BC, 5, 2),
(iDarius, i10BC, 5, 2),
(iHannibal,),
tRomanLateLeaders,
(iTokugawa,),
(iZara_Yaqob,),
(iPacal,),
(iRagnar,),
(iSaladin,),
(iSuryavarman,),
(iIsabella,),
(iNapoleon, i1700AD, 10, 4, iDe_Gaulle, i1940AD, 10, 5),
(iVictoria, i1600AD, 15, 3, iChurchill, i1930AD, 10, 5),
(iFrederick, i1500AD, 10, 3, iBismarck, i1760AD, 10, 4),
(iCatherine, i1600AD, 15, 4, iStalin, i1800AD, 15, 5),
(iWillem_Van_Oranje,),
(iMansa_Musa,),
(iJoao,),
(iHuayna_Capac,),
(iKublai_Khan, i1500AD, 10, 3),
(iMontezuma,),
(iSuleiman, i1500AD, 10, 3),
(iLincoln, i1800AD, 15, 5, iFranklin_Roosevelt, i1900AD, 15, 5))

It looks like it's only by dates and not techs.

Here is the code in RiseAndFall.py that actually changes them:

Spoiler :

        def switchLateLeaders(self, iPlayer, iLeaderIndex):
                if (tLateLeaders[iPlayer][iLeaderIndex] != gc.getPlayer(iPlayer).getLeader()):
                        iThreshold = tLateLeaders[iPlayer][iLeaderIndex+2]
                        if (gc.getPlayer(iPlayer).getCurrentEra() >= tLateLeaders[iPlayer][iLeaderIndex+3]):
                                iThreshold *= 2
                        if (gc.getPlayer(iPlayer).getAnarchyTurns() != 0 or \
                            utils.getPlagueCountdown(iPlayer) > 0 or \
                            utils.getGreatDepressionCountdown(iPlayer) > 0 or \
                            utils.getStability(iPlayer) <= -10 or \
                            gc.getGame().getSorenRandNum(100, 'die roll') < iThreshold):
                                gc.getPlayer(iPlayer).setLeader(tLateLeaders[iPlayer][iLeaderIndex])
                                print ("leader late switch:", tLateLeaders[iPlayer][iLeaderIndex], "in civ", iPlayer)
                                if (gc.getPlayer(iPlayer).getLeader() == con.iStalin):
                                        CityNameManager.CityNameManager().sovietNames()

 

[Virdrago]

1800 for Lincoln? No wonder I hardly see Washington before he passes on, as it were.

 

[zbelg]

This has probably been asked before and I missed it, but does the AI personality ever change with the leader?

 

[Deego3]

There is no AI personality.

 

[SadoMacho]

I think they do. One thing doesn't seen to change, that's when they ask to change there favorite civic. That still is the civic of the first leaderhead.

 

[blizzrd]

1800 for Lincoln? No wonder I hardly see Washington before he passes on, as it were.

Washington is often the only American leader I see, shortly before I squash the Americans into the ground (although Rhye has made this a heck of a lot harder with the new changes in the recent patches).

 

[Lone Wolf]

There is no AI personality.

There is. Compare Tokugawa and Mansa Musa in classical BTS.

 

[onedreamer]

Yes, personality changes. And often even their views toward you, for example when Augustus takes the place of Julius he might often threaten after a few turns.

 

[zbelg]

There is no AI personality.

You mean at all? It's common knowledge that the leaders have distinctive quirks, there's even a "random AI personalities" option in vanilla. I can tell to some extent this holds true in RFC. In European games, for example, you should notice that only the Vikings are willing to initiate Open Borders without a gift first, but also often start wars. There is a much stronger penalty for "falling sway of a heathen religion" for Saladin and Isabella than there is for other leaders. The list goes on.

I just don't think I've seen many especially remarkable changes with succession. Personally I think it'd be cool if say, France suddenly got much more aggressive when Napolean takes power and you'd need to plan for his succession in your strategy.

 

[onedreamer]

there ARE remarkable changes actually. The most notable one is the favorite civic.

 

[BurnEmDown]

Also, some leaders will hate you more do to different religion and some will hate you less.
edit: woops didn't see zbelg's post