Where to build forbidden palace

[Theryman]

If there is one thing I am bad at with civ (and trust me, there are many), it is that I do not know where to build the FP. Many games I will simply never build it cause I just have no clue.

Well, its been about 6 months since I last played civ. I fired up a game on Monarch, expecting to get whipped, but instead I am far and above the leader in the game. I settled my area and got 4(!!) luxes within easy grab. I conquered my neighbor, and closest tech rival, the Byzantines, and solidified my lead.

So here is my situation- it is middle middle ages (well, I beelined for MT, but w/e). I gifted everyone on my continent into the MA with me, and now I want to build my FP, but I have no idea where.

Any other comments are fine, too! Thanks!

EDIT: Oh, and before anyone jumps down my throat, I built the Pyramids and Sun Tzu with SGLs, and hand built Leonardos.

 

[Schalke 04]

I did not have a look at your save, however I am sure that I don't have to.

Mainly it depends on what version of civ you are playing.

Vanilla/PTW:
Far enough from your capital, to create a new core

C3C (which is the best in my books):
Don't care about the distance. Just build it as early as you can. It won't create another core like in Vanilla/PTW but gives you a higher OCN (Optimal City Number [with low curroption in all nearby cities]). This will lead to an overall decrease of corruption in your empire which can not occur soon enough.
A well placed FP will decrease the distance corruption of parts of your empire, which is just ONE part of the curroption model. The other part of corruption (OCN) does not depend on the locaton of this small wonder and is general more influencing if built earlier.

 

[eldar]

Put it in a good city that will benefit from the greatly reduced corruption.

If you luck out and get an early MGL (say the only Army you could build is a Horse or Archer army... yuck!), use it for your FP in a former AI capital. Often a very sweet spot is an AI capital that has built the Colossus.

Otherwise, start thinking about FP location right off the bat, once you hit the required number of cities (10 on a Standard-sized map), you ought to have a decent idea already formed. You may even have started a pre-build. Often I'll grab a location in my second ring (distance 8 to 10 from my capital) and think "yeah, good FP spot, I'll start building/pre-building here" and get going as soon as I've got a worker out of the city.

 

[Più Freddo]

Always build the FP more or less from the first turn in your second or third city. It's the same for PTW and C3C. If the second city can be a Worker pump, then do that first and use the third city.

Place the city correspondingly. In PTW, use RCP3 and place the FP city where a future DCP5 (that is RCP5 with a few cities, like the old capital, placed closer) around it will be the most advantageous. As the Palace then jumps to a former AI RCP5 core, corruption will be minimal in the whole FP core.

In C3C, you probably want to place the cities a bit further off, since there will be no jump to RCP5. Place the FP city on the strongest location and start pre-building immediately if there is a chance that other cities can provide MPs and Barbarian protection. Make it a priority to improve the lands around this city. If you can afford it, join Workers to it.

When you have OCN cities, you can switch the pre-build to FP. So the better your Settler pump is, the faster you must build the FP.

 

[Boss Tweed]

I personally like to grab it in a close by enemy capital once I grab it. They're usually built on good spots to benefit, and if its close enough by, the corruption will benefit greatly to have a core city farther away from your actual core

 

[notthat]

The most important thing about FP in conquests is to build it as fast as you can (when you have more towns than the OCN is for the map size). The boost to your overall empire is far greater than the boost to the town which built it, or the small benefit to nearby towns.

That being said, if you have a city that has great potential (many good squares to work on) and if you can time completing the FP there with when you're able to build it (prebuild it unless you're counting on a leader) then go ahead and build it specifically there. In most cases though you're better off prebuilding it in any high production city at your core.

 

[Elear]

I usually I build the FP in the second ring, but sometimes the first ring. It seems to expand useful production by another half ring and I have experienced GPT increases in Republic by as much as +50 GPT when positioned just right. More can be obtained by moving the Palace to a more central location when you begin on a coastal spot.

 

[Crowqueen]

I have usually raped and pillaged halfway across the world before I build it, but I think I am taking hints from Civ IV with the same wonder and Versailles (which is a great wonder that acts the same way) by placing it in a different region, so thanks for the advice on what it does and doesn't do in C3C.