Where would you place my next city?

Inspector Dex

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I've been trying to incorporate a lot of the tips I see here on the forum into my game, and one particular aspect I am trying to improve is my city placement and specialization. I have just started a new game (pangea map/epic/noble) and my coastal capitol has wheat, corn, two dye, and a silk resource, combined with some grassland tiles (no seafood though, is that too much to ask? :p ). I'm thinking that this should be my super science city. Charlemagne is to my north at least 10 tiles away, and he is the only civ I've met so far in the first 30 turns or so. Between the two of us, though closer to Charle, is what I think could be a dynamite spot for a production city (stone and gold are present as well). Plus, it would expand my empire towards Charle, so I think it's a no-brainer to go that way. However I'm not quite sure where to put the city.

Would anyone mind looking at my snapshot and tell me if you think I'm on the right track with my choice of science city, and where you think the production city should go?

From this point on I'm going to play on my own until the conclusion. I want to learn by doing (plus I'll leave the write-ups to the experts like Sisiutil and MadScientist), but I think this first decision might be an important one. Thanks in advance for the input. :goodjob:
 
I would put my second city 1E ( or maybe 1 NE.... depends of the fogged tiles and the proximity of HRE ) of the gold.... has a serious prod potential....

But all depends of what is your "big plan": are you planning wonders ( hooking stone could be useful and second city would have to go somewhere else... )? What are your plans regarding HRE?
 
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I like Daves site above. For an option think about going 2s 2w of daves sites and place it between the stone and gold. It would give you a nice coastal production city and access to stone.
 
Thanks all for the input. It would be nice to have corn and pigs in the BFC to help my peons work the hills. I would really like that stone though, being industrious Augustus, as I would like to snag a few wonders. Maybe being industrious on noble is all I need to get them though. Hmmm... I'll have to double check what wonders require stone to see if it's worth going more coastal production and snagging the stone.

Do you agree that Rome should be super-science? It has lots of food potential, so should I consider using it as a GP farm? Or should I venture into the jungle with IW to find that site?
 
You can build a city on top of the spices eventually to claim the stone as well as fish and clams, I would not have that as my next city though... Rome doesn't look to have great production and as such not cottaging it up would be rather a waste..
 
But all depends of what is your "big plan": are you planning wonders ( hooking stone could be useful and second city would have to go somewhere else... )? What are your plans regarding HRE?

My big plan? That's another part of my game that needs work. I would like to try for a domination/conquest victory since I've had space victories, and don't want to try a cultural victory until I understand more about how to achieve one. So I guess I want to expand and conquer, and then see what presents itself down the line. I chose Rome because many people have said they're great for this (see Dave's sig :) ). What is HRE by the way? I consider myself somewhat up to date with the abbreviations, but not that one :blush: .
 
Holy roman empire. What are you researching now btw? As romans priority should be to get ironworking asap then hook it up then kill everyone on your continent.
 
Thanks all for the input. It would be nice to have corn and pigs in the BFC to help my peons work the hills. I would really like that stone though, being industrious Augustus, as I would like to snag a few wonders. Maybe being industrious on noble is all I need to get them though. Hmmm... I'll have to double check what wonders require stone to see if it's worth going more coastal production and snagging the stone.

Do you agree that Rome should be super-science? It has lots of food potential, so should I consider using it as a GP farm? Or should I venture into the jungle with IW to find that site?

If you want the stone just send your second settler right on the spices to make a city (so it can work the fish, clam, and stone). Great site for Moai statues since it's got some food, lots of coastal tiles and some inland hammers. Get DaveMcW's site first though, it blocks more land off and will be much stronger in the short term.
 
HRE = Holy Roman Empire huh? Seem pretty obvious now :) . Seems like a good plan to settle on Dave's spot and think about getting Spice City later.

To answer your question oyzar, I have 6 turns to finish the wheel, then it's straight to IW for me. My tech path was Aggriculture/BW/Wheel. Yeah, I'm only 35 turns into the game, but I was stressing over where to put production city :D.
 
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