Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
Are egyptians and babylonians good for wars?
Or just for nice cities, with lots of culture?
Or just for nice cities, with lots of culture?
Which is the best civ to play with?!?
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Higher Game
National Socialist
China is best for wars, but I like Japan because of their UU. Industrious/militaristic is very good for early wars, and is useful in the middle ages too.
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
China's UU is also very usefull.
3 movement points in the beginning of the feudal age is... very very good.
Atacking with this guys hurts a lot the enemy...
3 movement points in the beginning of the feudal age is... very very good.
Atacking with this guys hurts a lot the enemy...
Dragon Warrior
The Shamrocks Leperchaun
i just make my own
bobgote
Trousers
heh, when i saw the avatar on the side, i thought portuguese had done 3 consecutive posts 
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I like civs with an ancient UU. Another good point for the persians and zulus. Does nothing for egypt cos they're UU is crap.
.I like civs with an ancient UU. Another good point for the persians and zulus. Does nothing for egypt cos they're UU is crap.
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
Zulus and Aztecs UU are crap, useless. Good timing (like hoplites, mounted warriors, war chariots and others...), but with no real advantages.
Higher Game
National Socialist
I like China but unfortunately they aren't religious 
And the Zulu UU is among the best in the game. You cannot retreat from them! They will beat horsemen easily. I can see them being very useful in multiplayer.
And the Zulu UU is among the best in the game. You cannot retreat from them! They will beat horsemen easily. I can see them being very useful in multiplayer.
bobgote
Trousers
heh heh, I like the impi too. handy for raiding enemies too. I think to be historically accurate they should be 2.2.2 or even 3.2.2 (I think that would be too much of an advantage for a spearman replacement tho)
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
Impi was used till 19th century (Shaka Vs English South Africa) wasn't it?
So, it wouldn't be so strange to see it...
But how it is I won't like them (and not know if use them when I play Zulus...)
Other UUs are much better...
So, it wouldn't be so strange to see it...
But how it is I won't like them (and not know if use them when I play Zulus...)
Other UUs are much better...
Higher Game
National Socialist
No, they are not. Just take a look at other UUs. The man o war, the cossack, the musketeer, the F-15, the war chariot. Then look at a spearman that can defeat horsemen with ease, and can rush to defend cities. In fact, the Impi is the best part about the Zulu, because the Zulu traits are not so great. You can actually avoid the early GA because the Impi are very useful for such a long time.
Ossric
Hedonistic Ruler
I don't know if i would pick a Commercial civ
upside: lower corruption
Downside: if you built Smith's trading, all your commercial improvements are for free. (so the benefits of commerc. are waisted here)
So i wouldn't pick commercial. You can always built the forbidden palace strategically to lower corruption
upside: lower corruption
Downside: if you built Smith's trading, all your commercial improvements are for free. (so the benefits of commerc. are waisted here)
So i wouldn't pick commercial. You can always built the forbidden palace strategically to lower corruption
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
I don´t understand you...
downside... Adam Smith's is one of the best GW for a commercial civ, as it makes free the buildings that you spend half to build!!!
and this includes a x12 temple (12 happy faces...) and a boost in your gold, due to the combination: easier to build and mantain marketplace, bank, harbor and airport and lower corruption (Bigger problem in a great empire...)
This is very powerfull, specially if following my new top strategy: victory without temples and cathedrals.
Commercial is simply my current prefered characteristic!!!
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
Originally posted by Higher Game
I like China but unfortunately they aren't religious
Play victory without temples and cathedrals.
See it on this thread!!!
That UUs are the worst, including the german panzer, obsolete too fast with modern armor.
Cossack: +1 defense to a 3movement unit? Useless...
Man o War: ships in Civ3? If this is usefull, I'm Santa.
Musketter: +1 attack to a defense unit? Weak...
F-15: plains in CIV3? More bombard power to a jet? no coments.
war chariot: horseman 10 shields cheap? Weak...
Good UUs:
Legion: they conquer and ensure city defense
Immortal: even better, more attack to an atatacking unit
samurai:They run... and defend!!!
hoplite: peace ensured. AI never go to war with hoplites...
Rider: Quick knight: Best UU (chinese civ is not the best...)
Elephant: just to no-iron maps!
Higher Game
National Socialist
Actually, the samurai and the legion do have a decisive advantge. Whether on the attack or on the defence, both will have an advantage against their normal counterparts.
bobgote
Trousers
And as for the Immortal, if you're a warmonger, you can take out a couple of civs in the ancient age.
The only useless ones by my reckoning are the F-15 and Man-o-war. (Without modding). I guess the Man-O-War could be useful in the right circumstances.
The only useless ones by my reckoning are the F-15 and Man-o-war. (Without modding). I guess the Man-O-War could be useful in the right circumstances.
Ossric
Hedonistic Ruler
Portuguese,
What i wanted to say is that one of the benefits of Commercial civs are that comm. improvements are cheaper.
When you build the Trading Company, the maintenance for these improvements is free. For ALL types of civs. So the advantage of a commercial civ is kind of lost.
You can better take an Religious/Militaristic/Scientific civ & built Smith's Trading. Then you have the benefits of your specific civ + all the commercial improvements for free!
What i wanted to say is that one of the benefits of Commercial civs are that comm. improvements are cheaper.
When you build the Trading Company, the maintenance for these improvements is free. For ALL types of civs. So the advantage of a commercial civ is kind of lost.
You can better take an Religious/Militaristic/Scientific civ & built Smith's Trading. Then you have the benefits of your specific civ + all the commercial improvements for free!
bobgote
Trousers
Ossric: you still have to build them, do you not?
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
Ossric, or I'm not understanding you,or you are not understand me:
You have to BUILD them. A commercialciv has advantages to build them.Others cannot gain these advantage. Ever. Neither with Adam Smith's.
Therefore, being commercial is good. As I make markets instead of temples, being commercial is VERY, VERY good.
Of course that Adam Smith's help mre if you build more... And who build more?!?
See bobgote's post.
You have to BUILD them. A commercialciv has advantages to build them.Others cannot gain these advantage. Ever. Neither with Adam Smith's.
Therefore, being commercial is good. As I make markets instead of temples, being commercial is VERY, VERY good.
Of course that Adam Smith's help mre if you build more... And who build more?!?
See bobgote's post.
Portuguese
Vassalising Spain
Allemand, are you kidding with me?!?
See the UUs I like really a few posts earlier.
It was written and I didn't change my opinions since the, although Imight change a little in the future, when I start to play multiplayer, if that influences...
Some UUs are really cool...
(hoplite for peace, rider to fast attacks, immortal to early genocide,samurai to conquer and consolidate,...)
See above!
