Which new leader for existing civ would u most like to see (and why)?

[Meowzer]

I'd like to see a new Greece leader representing Thebes. In ancient Greece, Thebes was the other big-time city-state. I'm not sure why they aren't remembered as much, though perhaps just because they aren't as easy to stereotype as Athens (nerds) and Sparta (bloodthirsty/militaristic). Thebes was the city-state that managed to reduce Sparta to a marginal power until they were conquered by the Romans.

I think it'd be cool if the three Greek leaders each shared something with each of the other leaders. If, for example, the Thebian leader (the obvious choice is Epaminondas) had a bonus involving military units fighting and city-states, he would share having a military bonus w/ Sparta, a city-state bonus w/ Athens, and Athens and Sparta would share a culture bonus. (for example, he could be suzerain of a city-state on his home continent by having one envoy there as long as he both had a strong military and was at war - he would go from being suzerain to not being a suzerain if either requirement weren't met, then would become suzerain again if both were met)

 

[Guandao]

I find it weird that they kept Thebes as a city-name for Egypt...why not just change it to Waset, and make Thebes a city-name for Greece?

 

[Lord of War N02]

I find it weird that they kept Thebes as a city-name for Egypt...why not just change it to Waset, and make Thebes a city-name for Greece?

Same for Alexandria that civ 6 used Ra-Kedet instead of Alexandria

For Egypt I would like to see Pharoah ruled from Memphis

 

[Zaarin]

I'd like to see Akhenaten for Egypt. He's definitely one of history's more...unique personalities, and it takes a powerful ruler to bring about the kind of reforms he made in Egypt (even if they died with him). I'd also like to see the return of Queen Elizabeth I of England.

 

[Guandao]

I'd like to see Akhenaten for Egypt. He's definitely one of history's more...unique personalities, and it takes a powerful ruler to bring about the kind of reforms he made in Egypt (even if they died with him). I'd also like to see the return of Queen Elizabeth I of England.

And make Amarna/Akhetaten his capital!

 

[Metecury]

Cromwell for England. A controversial yet interesting figure, he did have quite the impact on his country's history. His special ability should be called "New model army" enabling the civ to form corps earlier and giving him a unique unit, the round head which replaces musket men and gets faith from kills. Alternatively Henry the VIII, another interesting character.


For Germany I'd go either with Frederick the great for a Prussia theme or Kaise Wilhelm for a WW1 unique unit.


France should get either Napoleon or Louis XIV, both massive figures of European History. Alternatively De Gaulle but this is rather less popular as a choice than the other two.


Rome either Marcus Aurelius or Caesars, both worthy of being represented seeing their impressive achievements.


Japan should get emperor Meiji for a more modern focus, or Tojo. Yes, the second one is hugely controversial, I know, but I'd love to see a WW2 themed civ and it's not like civ leaders are all pacifists without faults.


Ivan the Terrible or a Soviet leader (I'd say either Stalin or Gorbachev) for Russia. Ivan for his role in the creation of the Russian empire and a Soviet leader because that part of Russian history had an impact on the whole world.


Getulio Vargas for Brazil, he created the "Estado Novo" and ruled for quite a long time in between the World Wars. One of the most well known political figures from Brazil.


The USA could do with Eisenhower or Regan, a Cold War twist would be interesting. and something new for a change.

For the rest of the civs I really do not know. Spain is fine as it is probably, although I would not mind Franco, yet another controversial figure, also Nasser for Egypt would be an interesting choice (I'd love a dictators and Tyrants DLC adding controversial figures to all civs). But yeah other than the ones I have already mentioned I have no idea.

This is pretty much it for me.

 

[Raz.BELOVED]

Rasputin for Russia. Definitely an interesting figure in history, and with both Ghandi and Medici ingame it is officially 'acceptable' to have more non-ruler rulers, especially one as potentially influential as him. Something about focusing on Russia's faith bonus would be interesting.

T.E. Lawrence for Arabia. In a similar vein to Rasputin, a non-ruler ruler. Hopefully he would come after a second real ruler though, as cool as he is in my eyes I wouldn't want the rest of arabian history to be replaced by a british dude.

In the spirit of the first two, Zheng He for China could be interesting. Naval focused China with a Junk unique unit.

Gamel Abdel Nasser would be an actual good leader for Arabia. The biggest issues with him are human rights violations, dictatorship, and another egypt based arab leader.

While I do want a modern China leader, I think Deng Xiaoping would be better than Mao Zedong. Biggest Issues are controversy over communism, capitalism, and human rights (specifically Tiananmen)

Maria Theresa for Germany being able to peacefully absorb city states and keep suzerain bonuses.

For some reason I am infatuated with the idea of one ruler for multiple civs. Constantine for Greece/Rome, Cnut for Norway/England, Charles V for Spain/Germany, Kublai Khan for China/Inevitable Mongolia, etc.

 

[Zatsukino]

I'd like to see Akhenaten as a Leader for Egypt, i think he's one of the most famous, but Hatchepsut would be nice too !

Wu Zetian for China would be perfect to see again, i've liked to choose her in Civ V

For Arabia, Harun Al-Rashid was great ! I don't like at all Saladin, he leads Arabia but the capital of his empire is Cairo .. ? And Saladin never ruled Arabia by the way...

It would be also nice to see a leader who were never represented for Sumeria, i think of Puabi, the gold empress. She is really unknown but was real instead of Gilgamesh, and her story isn't much known but i'd like to see her in Civ VI, it would be interesting ! If you don't know who she is : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puabi

India was never represented by another leader, so i choose King Poros, he is only known by the ancient greek sources, but this time, India would be a defense and army focused civ, just for have something more refreshing !

About Japan.. I think about queen/empress Himiko, who was known as the solar goddess or Amaterasu in the japanese folklore. Her kingdom had many commercial relationships with China, and japanese people gave her many surnatural powers, because she was known to be a priestess... So, yeah it would be interesting too, i think.

For France i pick the sun king or Louis XIV, one of the most famous leaders of France, his kingdom would be cultural focused civ.

 

[Zaarin]

It would be also nice to see a leader who were never represented for Sumeria, i think of Puabi, the gold empress. She is really unknown but was real instead of Gilgamesh, and her story isn't much known but i'd like to see her in Civ VI, it would be interesting ! If you don't know who she is : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puabi

Gilgamesh was definitely real; historical attestations of him have been found in Ur. While my ideal choice for a second Sumerian leader would be either Ur-Namu or Shulgi (actually, I'd like a completely re-designed Sumer--I found the Epic of Gilgamesh inspired civ to be rather disappointing), I think the best candidate for a female leader of Sumer would be Kubaba/Kug-Bau, the only female ruler mentioned in the Sumerian king list, a woman who started her life as an alewife and who was said to be "chosen by the gods" to rule Kish. She also ended up being deified as a mother goddess.

 

[cjm81499]

I think Thomas Jefferson should be the alternate leader for the US, it would be pretty boring to see one of the same 3 usual leaders again (Lincoln, Washington, and FDR). I think Jefferson would be a nice change like Teddy Roosevelt was.

 

[Phrozen]

Henry II for England. He checks all the boxes. Big personality. Civilization at one of its heights. Profound effect on culture ie the English law system. Alternatively, either William Pitt to give a more parliamentarian aspect to English leadership as Victoria really should of been replaced by Disraeli or Lord Palmerston.

Ivan IV is a good choice for Russia as he also checks all the boxes. Ivan III and Khrushchev if you wanted to go earlier or later.

Lucius Brutus for Rome. One of the founders of the Roman Republic. He used obfuscating stupidity to cover up his plot to overthrow the kings of Rome. Brutus in fact means dullard or dumb. It is about time we have a republican leader for Rome.

Eisenhower for America. Though not as big a personality as say Jefferson, Washington, or Lincoln. He was still charismatic and represented the US near the height of its power. Other good choices that haven't been in the game yet are Coolidge and Cleveland.

 

[Zaarin]

I think Thomas Jefferson should be the alternate leader for the US, it would be pretty boring to see one of the same 3 usual leaders again (Lincoln, Washington, and FDR). I think Jefferson would be a nice change like Teddy Roosevelt was.

When it comes to early presidents, I'd rather see the pugnacious and irascible John Adams, but I concede Jefferson could be interesting. I still wouldn't mind seeing Washington, though; he's probably the only president that every American can agree was great.

Eisenhower for America. Though not as big a personality as say Jefferson, Washington, or Lincoln. He was still charismatic and represented the US near the height of its power. Other good choices that haven't been in the game yet are Coolidge and Cleveland.

I don't think (or at least I hope) we won't see a president more recent than TR, but I confess I'd have loved to see Coolidge. He could be so fun in the diplomacy window with his terse one-word replies. Especially since quite a few of our current leaders tend toward the...bombastic. Cleveland would be another interesting choice. I have a hard time calling Washington a big personality--not because he didn't have one, but because foundation myths have all but done away with the man and replaced him with the apotheosis of Americanism.

 

[Phrozen]

Well, Coolidge would already have a name for us LUA: The Business of the American People. Maybe something like half price commercial districts.

 

[unpossible251]

Kruschev? The least contravertial soviet leader, but still perhaps playing with fire somewhat. It would be interesting if the alternative USA leader was Kennedy.

 

[Turrdy]

Someone on this forum came up with the idea giving Charlemagne to France and Germany. Which I'd find hilarious.

For England I'd like to see a male leader (Churchill or an early king) and for Russia a female one (Cathrine the Great for example).

Mao Zedong would be cool for China

For Norway I'd like to see Erik the Red or his son Leif Erikson (First European to set foot on the american continent). Erik the Red was Norweigan whereas Leif Erikson was actually born in Iceland.

And for America:

I think Thomas Jefferson should be the alternate leader for the US, it would be pretty boring to see one of the same 3 usual leaders again (Lincoln, Washington, and FDR). I think Jefferson would be a nice change like Teddy Roosevelt was.

I second that! The only face from Mt. Rushmore we didn't see in a civ game yet (afaik)

 

[Ben Vimes]

I gave this a lot of thought, and I realized something: any new leader for existing Civs must have a different capital than the current one if we want to continue the trend of multiple versions of a Civ being able to spawn in the same game.

That said, here are some suggestions:

1) Alfred the Great ruling England from Winchester
- Focused on wiping out barbarians and developing his cities
2) Louis XIV ruling France from Versailles
- Focused on patronizing the arts
3) Ivan the Great or Vladimir Lenin ruling Russia from Moscow
- Ivan is focused on rapid expansion and quick annexation of cities
- Lenin is focused on building a government and economy
4) Otto von Bismarck or Frederick the Great ruling Germany from Berlin
- Bismarck is heavily focused on diplomacy
- Frederick is a military genius and focuses on unit promotions and military policies
5) George Washington ruling The United States of America from Philadelphia
- Focused on aggressive wars (vice defensive wars, like Teddy) and making other Civs follow his form of government
6) Ferdinand III ruling Spain from Burgos
- Focused on conquest (or reconquest, if you will)

I'm not as familiar with Asian history as I am with European, but here are some things I picked up in 20 minutes from Wikipedia:

1) Ashoka ruling India from Pataliputra
2) Mutsuhito (aka Emperor Meiji) ruling Japan from Tokyo
3) Hiowan Yei (aka Kangxi Emperor) OR Zhu Yuanzhang (aka Hongwu Emperor) ruling China from Beijing or Yingtian (aka Nanjing) respectively

Other things to look into: an Umayyad or Abbasid caliph for Arabia, another emperor or consul for Rome (may be difficult to find another capital, though), and a pre-Alexander pharaoh for Egypt.

 

[Zaarin]

I gave this a lot of thought, and I realized something: any new leader for existing Civs must have a different capital than the current one if we want to continue the trend of multiple versions of a Civ being able to spawn in the same game.

Personally, I hope they do away with that pointless limitation and add the ability to disable multiple copies of the same civ. It's justifiable with Greece, but I can't think of any other civ it would make any sense for.

2) Louis XIV ruling France from Versailles

That is being extremely technical. Versailles is, for all intents and purposes, in Paris. And while the royal residence was in Versailles, Louis XIV's capital was still in Paris, which has always been the capital of France except under a couple of governments-in-exile--meaning France could have no second leader under such restrictions. England is in the same predicament short of selecting Alfred the Great.

 

[Guandao]

I gave this a lot of thought, and I realized something: any new leader for existing Civs must have a different capital than the current one if we want to continue the trend of multiple versions of a Civ being able to spawn in the same game.

That said, here are some suggestions:

1) Alfred the Great ruling England from Winchester
- Focused on wiping out barbarians and developing his cities
2) Louis XIV ruling France from Versailles
- Focused on patronizing the arts
3) Ivan the Great or Vladimir Lenin ruling Russia from Moscow
- Ivan is focused on rapid expansion and quick annexation of cities
- Lenin is focused on building a government and economy
4) Otto von Bismarck or Frederick the Great ruling Germany from Berlin
- Bismarck is heavily focused on diplomacy
- Frederick is a military genius and focuses on unit promotions and military policies
5) George Washington ruling The United States of America from Philadelphia
- Focused on aggressive wars (vice defensive wars, like Teddy) and making other Civs follow his form of government
6) Ferdinand III ruling Spain from Burgos
- Focused on conquest (or reconquest, if you will)

I'm not as familiar with Asian history as I am with European, but here are some things I picked up in 20 minutes from Wikipedia:

1) Ashoka ruling India from Pataliputra
2) Mutsuhito (aka Emperor Meiji) ruling Japan from Tokyo
3) Hiowan Yei (aka Kangxi Emperor) OR Zhu Yuanzhang (aka Hongwu Emperor) ruling China from Beijing or Yingtian (aka Nanjing) respectively

Other things to look into: an Umayyad or Abbasid caliph for Arabia, another emperor or consul for Rome (may be difficult to find another capital, though), and a pre-Alexander pharaoh for Egypt.

I would prefer Yongle Emperor over Hongwu Emperor if a Ming Dynasty emperor is chosen, he's the ruler who had the Treasure ship fleet led by Zheng He. I agree with Kangxi Emperor being a good choice for Chinese leader, despite being of Manchu descent. I think Firaxis could run into controversy selecting an ancestor of the current Japanese emperor as an alternate leader for Japan. Note how in all the Civ games, none of the Japanese emperors/empresses have been chosen to represent Japan. We only have had Tokugawa Ieyasu, Oda Nobunaga and now Hojo Tokimune.

 

[Tdot1]

France - You have to have Louis XIV. We have always had Napoleon and I want Louis. I think he would focus on culture and expansion
Egypt - Hatshepsut or some others would be great.
Germany - I think we need a Prussian leader, the fact that the Holy Roman Empire as Germany seems pretty silly to me.
England - So many choices, I mean we could even have Winston Churchill, he'd be great to animate.
Japan - I am tempted to suggest Oda Nobunaga, or Tokugawa Ieyasu even?
India - It would be nice to have some Mughal leaders, although maybe this could be a Civ in its own right

Mostly though, I want new civs, and I want more of the map covered. Like right now we don not have Byzantium or the Ottoman Empire, nevermind Africa, or the Americas

 

[Gabriel Sergio]

For Arabia, I want To See an Ummayad Leader
Muawiyah is good choice, for more militiraristic, naval focused and expansionist.