Why are there Hindus still in India

can you summarize it it's a bit long:p

Hi There,
Bottom Line is, in India, unlike other countries Islam conquered, there were bloody wars pretty much every month of the thousand or so year trying by the Muslim armies.

In other countries like Persia Islamic armies conquered the country and converted everyone to Islam at the edge of the sword (few of them ran to India and saved there religion of zoroastrianism and are succesful businessmen in India like J.R.D Tata etc). Please read this:
http://hindurajput.blogspot.com/#Protection_of_Hinduism

In India such large scale conversion could not take place because Hindu kings fought tooth and nail and it is a fact that India is largely Hindu because of the effort of these kings.

You can read about these kings here:
http://hindurajput.blogspot.com/#Partial_list_of_Rajputs_who_fought_the_invaders

-Digvijay
 
ah thank you i'll read it later:)
 
Or maybe after invading India, the Mughals decided it was better off not necessary to convert the locals.
Maybe their thinking was, "If the locals were allowed to keep their religion, then maybe they would be willing to accept being ruled by foreigners"?
A win-win situation for everyone?
 
Hi There,
Bottom Line is, in India, unlike other countries Islam conquered, there were bloody wars pretty much every month of the thousand or so year trying by the Muslim armies.

In other countries like Persia Islamic armies conquered the country and converted everyone to Islam at the edge of the sword (few of them ran to India and saved there religion of zoroastrianism and are succesful businessmen in India like J.R.D Tata etc).

Not entirely true. Muslims invaded and conquered huge portions of Europe but Christianity still flourished there.
 
Or maybe after invading India, the Mughals decided it was better off not necessary to convert the locals.
Maybe their thinking was, "If the locals were allowed to keep their religion, then maybe they would be willing to accept being ruled by foreigners"?
A win-win situation for everyone?

By that argument Persia i.e modern Iran should still be a mojority Zoroastrian country but they are not. Please read this (later part of the paragraphs talks about zoroastrians)
http://hindurajput.blogspot.com/#Protection_of_Hinduism

-Digvijay
 
Not entirely true. Muslims invaded and conquered huge portions of Europe but Christianity still flourished there.

In Koran two religions are mentioned and are acorded favorable status: Christianity and Judaism. Rest of the religions are considered fair game to be destroyed. Please read what happened in Persia to Zoroastrians in the link mentioned in the post above.
-Digvijay
 
To be fair, one reason the Zoroastrians were more likely to convert is that their religion is more compatible with Islam than Hinduism. It was a clearly monotheistic religion with concepts of heaven and hell that somewhat similar to Islam. It isn't hard to see the majority of people seemlessly switching.

Hinduism is a much bigger jump.
 
Yes and the reason was that Hindus put a very spirited resistance to avoid conversion. Please read this part for a more thorough analysis:

http://hindurajput.blogspot.com/#Organization_of_Indian_kingdoms_during_invasions

-Digvijay

this would make more sense if Pakistan and Bangladesh didn't exist. India is not unique in any way, they are geographically further away so that conversion is harder and cultures are less compatible; just like only the Bosniaks were converted in Europe.
 
To be fair, one reason the Zoroastrians were more likely to convert is that their religion is more compatible with Islam than Hinduism. It was a clearly monotheistic religion with concepts of heaven and hell that somewhat similar to Islam. It isn't hard to see the majority of people seemlessly switching.

Hinduism is a much bigger jump.
Sobieski,
This is just a wrong assumption. Nobody jumps to the religion of the conquering hook line and sinker unless there is coercion and there was plenty of coercion in anccient Persia.
From:
http://hindurajput.blogspot.com/#Protection_of_Hinduism

This section is from Page 3 of: The Parsees, Their History, Manners, Customs & Religion. Dosabhoy Framjee. Pub: London: Smith, Elder and Co., 65, Cornhill: 1858.
Suffice it to say, that with Yezdezird, the forty-fifth king in the descent of the race of Kaimurs, ended the ancient Persian monarchy. The neighbouring and wealthy empire of Persia presented too tempting a prize to the fanatic and ambitious spirit, evoked by Mahomed, to remain long unmolested, and in the middle of the seventh century of the Christian era, the Arab sword invaded Persia, under Caliph Omar. In a fierce and well-contested battle with the Persians at the village of Nahavand, about fifty miles from the ancient city of Ecbatana, the fate of the empire was decided.....Yezdezird, abandoning his kingdom as lost, fled the country; and after wandering in solitude and disguise for a period of ten years, was at last treacherously slain by a miller to whom the secret of his identity had been confided (651 AD). ....

Thus on the conquest of Persia, the Mahomedan soldiers of the Caliphat of Baghdad traversed the length and breadth of the country, presenting the alternative of death or the Koran, and compelling the conquered nation to accept the one or the other. By these oppressive and cruel means, a hundred thousand persons are said to have daily abjured the faith of there forefathers; and the fire-temples and other sacred places were destroyed or converted into mosques.
To escape the sword of Islam some Zoroastrians landed on the coast of Gujarat in 716 A.D. Rajput king of Gujarat gave them land to settle and put no religious restriction on the Zoroastrians. The magnanimity of the Hindu King allowed the Zoroastrian religion to flourish. In modern era some of the top industrialists of India e.g. J.R.D. Tata, Ardeshir Godrej, symphony conductor Zubin Mehta, etc. belong to the the Parsi (Zoroastrian) community.


-Digvijay
 
this would make more sense if Pakistan and Bangladesh didn't exist. India is not unique in any way, they are geographically further away so that conversion is harder and cultures are less compatible; just like only the Bosniaks were converted in Europe.

Kraznaya,

India is unique because unlike any other part of the world, Islam after trying hard for 1000 years could convert only a small part of the population to Islam.

-Digvijay
 
Islam also never really penetrated China, despite having arrived on its doorstep in Xinjiang and also along the sea routes.

But then again, except for Buddhism (which was heavily localized anyways), no foreign religion ever penetrated Chinese social norms.

Someone once said it well - the Chinese are the most superstitious lot on earth and also the least religious. :ack:
 
In other countries like Persia Islamic armies conquered the country and converted everyone to Islam at the edge of the sword

Yawn. There is still no evidence of mass forced conversion. I have read several anti-Muslim sources on this, none of them have been convincing. I believe forced conversion in the scale that it supposedly happened in Persia, would be impossible.

Islam was not spread by the sword, it spread due to several reasons, and forced conversion was not one of them.
 
Yawn. There is still no evidence of mass forced conversion. I have read several anti-Muslim sources on this, none of them have been convincing. I believe forced conversion in the scale that it supposedly happened in Persia, would be impossible.

Islam was not spread by the sword, it spread due to several reasons, and forced conversion was not one of them.

And why would you not believe Parsi historians themselves who have maintained an oral tradition of what happened to there fire temples which forced them to leave Persia and go on a perilous journey to land on the coast of India in 716 A.D?

Read Here(Towards the last half of the paragraph):

http://hindurajput.blogspot.com/#Protection_of_Hinduism

-Digvijay
 
Sobieski,
This is just a wrong assumption. Nobody jumps to the religion of the conquering hook line and sinker unless there is coercion and there was plenty of coercion in anccient Persia.
....

Without even debating the persian case, your assumption is false, a lot of religions spread peacefully like Buddism in China and Islam in Indonesia.
 
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