Why did hannibal failed?

Then Elephant usage in Cartage warfare wasn't "military innovation" in some means, but only some "relief movement" for getting any "speedy" military units in battle field. No one ancient country of Mediterranean region don't use any Elephant in their battles due to horse pastures were common (except Cartage region) & African elephant is really freaky & uncontrollable animal in comparison to horse.)
Interesting note on Hannibal's use of elephants in battle: at Zama when Hannibal met Scipio in battle, the Romans had already been unpleasantly introduced to War Elephants in previous encounters. So at the beginning of the battle, all of the Roman trumpeteers made a crazy racket that spooked the Carthaginian elephants and sent them crashing through the Carthagian lines. The resulting chaos disrupted the lines and may have doomed Hannibal to defeat.
 
This is a bit OT, sorry, but interesting from the pov of elephants in warfare.

The great SE Asian empires used to feed their elephants a type of weed (the name escapes me at the moment) that had a narcotic effect.

The elephants were essentially docile, until spooked, at which time they would fly into a rage, not unlike 'bloodlust', and would attempt to destroy anything in their field of view. The downside to this was that the substance was mildly poisonous, which limited the number of times you could use it.

The handlers had to be careful to keep the elephants calm until they were in front of the body of the army, otherwise they would cause more deaths to their own side than the enemy, they would then agitate the elephants and turn them loose.

Quite an effective method of dipersing large bodies of men.
 
"Scipio Africanus"

Just how different would have world been without the father and the son?

Of course the reasons are in deeper than that...but someone had to defeat Carthageans.
 
Eh-h-h. Um-m-m.

Scipio Africanus - father & son. What world...

I'm afraid - one was adopted son of other & Third Punic war was really other fish from Second. By the way I heard that plan of Third Punic war was prepared by Lellius the Beautiful - head of Rome fleet. Main reason of Third Punic war was - Cartage became Pirate's den & began disrupting grain transport from Egypt to Rome, then it was fleet headache to solve this problem.
I'm afraid Cartage was really broken to Third war beginning & fact that it had "Pirate's ruler" is good example of it. Then - most important part of this war was strict blockade of African shore made by fleet before actual fighting. Scipio (son) assault was real cakewalk after that.

Sincerely yours, Alex.
 
(I'm not sure about family heritage of Scipio anyway...I assumed certain things..and if they aren't really "family" then it's my mistake :) )

So you wouldn't give any credit to Scipio?
I mean the first battle that was won in Baecula by romans?
(Of course it wasn't Hannibal himself in the battle)

Don't you think Scipio (both) learned how to fight against the Carthage little by little and also understood how to gather and train army that could defeat Carthage finally?

Don't you think that by defeating Carthage Scipio and Romans learned important lesson that later was important against other opponents?

However I would say that Hannibal could have won really...after battle of Canae. I think he really beat himself in the end...but generals like Scipio was needed to really make things happen against Hannibal. I believe other Roman generals would have possible failed and Hannibal could have had second chance.
 
Dear ViceRoy!

I didn't say anything against Scipio Africanus (father) due to he was really bright commander. But you miss some really interesting point of issue.
Rome developed famous Gimnasium (just before War) & got most famous Teacher (Marcus Claudius the Mentor - conqueror of Cisalpines Gauls - inventor of manipules tactics that was necessity against small lithe Gaulic bands in swampy Po's valley).
Just imagine: this great teacher had got greatest crowd of really bright pupils in one class - Publius Cornelius "Scipio" Africanus, Marcus Claudius "Marcellus", Marcus Fabius "Cunctator", Guis Lellius "Wise" with other really good military leaders as Publius Varro & Emilius Lepidus slightly older & younger batch with outstanding Marcus Junnius Brute the Elder.
I read in one book - if you got in one time Sir Walter Raleigh, Sir Francis Drake, Sir Walsingham, Queen Elisabeth & great crowd of their same age leader it can be just coinscidence, but... it seems that there was a reason for so bright outcrop!
Roman Reason was their Gimnasium appearance where they began to "feed" next "rulers for Republic" with care & attention.
Sad irony is - Rome took example of Cartage where Carthaginians created "Trade School" where their "great Leaders" studied "Art of Governmental management" for better administration of Carthage. Well, Rome "pupils" exceeded their Carthaginian "teachers" in one great decisive "World War" of ancient times. But most important issue was - both most developed country of that times made their attempt for better government management & it was main course of political & economical development of that times. If we imagine that Cartage overcome Rome in this War - History remaned the same: Cartage was on the same course of political-economical development as Rome & their successes in that direction were comparable. Then... I always thought that this tread was slightly pointless, because both country had the same goal of their development & the same method of reaching it.

Hannibal & Publius Cornelius "Scipio" Elder were most striking similarities in that process. Both had good military teaching in "Trade School" & "Gimnasium" respectfully, both were intended military leaders of their countries. (Neither Rome, nor Cartage hadn't enough resources for development "spare" leaders for their governments. Then - all noble children was taught "governmental issues" from... (I'm not sure about Cartage, but Rome custom was - "boy must know his destiny from his first woman laying" - i.e. around 13-15 years old.) & their tasks were not "overlapped" with tasks of his same-age friend. We can't tell now about Cartage tasks distribution (We can only suppose that Hannibal was intended military leader & his brother Hasdrubal was intended "Colony manager" or "Administrator of some sort", but we have definite knowledge that Publius Cornelius "Scipio" was intended military Commander, Guis Lellius the Wise - fleet Commander & head of Rome Intelligence Service, Marcus Claudius Marcellus was taught to be Head of Department of Justice & chief of local Federal Bureau of Investigation (or Geheime Staats Polizei if you prefer get anti-Roman view of things ;) ) with Marcus Fabius Cunctator as "Domestic Advisor" & head of "Foreign Office" of Rome. Then - you can't "light on" Scipio military skills especially - he was taught to be good commander & "filled" his slot with success. But his classmates were the same success in their "slots"! You can't praise Lion for his Lion abilities if you know that in some stage of development Senate of your country advised to raise some child in "Lions path" & other child was given order to grow in "Snake path"! All these orders was given by special decisions of Senate of Rome Republic! I'm not sure that child of 14 years old could articulate - what is dream of his Life, but Senate made decisions based on constant looking for & permanent tutoring of childs from 11-12 years old. (By the way - main part of children could never enter Gimnasium due to exorbitant price for studying there & 2/3 of entered was expelled in first 2-3 year as "not good for needs of our Republic".) It was really hard teaching, & there were really bright pupils, but - can you praise anyone for his country "bet on him" in his childhood from first place?! Huh?
If - yes, it'll be really "unmodern" point of view on humanity ;).

Sincerely yours, Alex.

P.S. My previous harsh response had reason - there was really dirty story in adopting Scipio Africanus (younger) & it became main bane of all Optimate party (family of Cornelius was most important family amidst Optimates) from their Populars opponents. I resembled Chappadaquick story that became main "dirty spot" for Kennedy clan in USA, but story of "Scipio younger adaptation" was dirtier in great extent! It seems that most praising of Scipio (younger) was "mocking praise" from his political opponents & it continued couple centuries "after the fact". (Caesar, Augustus & all their crowd were - Julius-Claudius command - i.e. most jealous Populars party leaders of Rome.) "Scipio adaptation" story became really dirty joke - unpronounsable in "woman company". It resembled some stories about Hitler in jealous anti-fashistic crowds, or story about Napoleon amidst "royalists".
Then - in some circles you try to pretend that there wasn't any Scipio Afrikanus (son), then go in really big complications in sieving grain from husk in his case :)
Oh, I begin some flaming again... Poor me :)
 
I know something about history of Rome and the punic wars but those things that you describe...I have only got small parts of those. You must have read more than just "common history" to get all those details about the Roman education. Mainly my focus has been in overall history and later times so I have to rely on you about this issue ;)

Well...And I agree it cannot be just matter of luck lot of great leaders in one time to just raise to the surface. However I think it's not only education system but also the overall circumstances that affect people such that there will be people to lead when needed. Example Germany military leaders during WW2...same goes to United States Civil War...there was reason there were so many good. Of course this doesn't only happen in military sector but also in other parts of human society as well. Every nation must teach (even if the way is rude) people to cope in different situations so the nation is able to survive later. However I think problem is that "the most talented and the most motivated" aren't necessarily picked to the best schools but those who are rich and who's father sees some "potential" in his son.

I just wonder...that does the inviduals that are teached almost to the point of dead...They must grow somehow differently, with feeling that there's some "bigger" mission for them than for "ordinary people". It's mainly like professional sports nowdays...you have to start teaching them early that their physique gets into the point of perfection and that their mind is always in the business and not somewhere else. Don't know do you watch tennis but example Williams sisters that were in USA Open final...their father tried to teach them right from their childhood to become tennisstars. Same kind of process must have happened with Hannibal&Scipio.

Do you think that the inviduals (that are in command and make things happen as someone have to) matter more or the overall circumstances (political, commercial, military training & equipment) in the end? I'm not only talking about Punic Wars particularly but in overall?
 
Dear ViceRoy!

Rome Early Republic is my hobby & I especially collected all facts from period of dislodging Tarquinius till Early Principate establishment. I can't find difference head from tails in Roman History after Augustus Principate or before Rome became Republic, but here - it's my ground ;).
If you want to know anything about "Red" Cornelii faction of Optimates, or "White" Claudii (or Glaudii ;)?!) faction of Populars, or "Lion & Unicorn" religious stuff, or why "Sun is Axe", or what meaning of crucifying in Early Rome, or which spectarors could show their tumbs down, but another could rise them up - but never vice versa, - you are welcome!
Any question about legendary Kings of Rome (by the way - etruscan by their origin) or any stuff of Tyberian Principate - I'm sorry, but you must find somebody else. You couldn't go in any possible direction, but must concentrate in just one field ;) for success. It is my answer of some sort.

Yes, I think personality is most important thing in any field of activity. But no one most bright & gifted Aztec commander hadn't any chance before conquistador onslaught. No one brave Techumseh had any chance against "Red-coats" at start or "Yellow ties" after. (I'm sure that Cartage lost his cause before Second Punic war & this war was simple statement of this fact. Yes, Rome lost initial battles of this war due to crucial mis-training of her common soldiers, but issue was settled in naval battles of First Punic war - not Second. While Rome with her inferior ships could ravage Cartage superior fleet without punishment & completely cut down Cartage trade routes, Fate of this mercantile giant was sealed & doomed.)

Then we came to most interesting issue of History - can any mortal reach anything without helping of "Providence". I think - not. I'm sure about it. Then we come to most subtle things of our issue - God & Faith. It is really subtle things & I'm sure that without God's Favor you can't reach anything at all - have you startling personality or not, because... Because God is in first place - your inner thing, & any your social reachings are - things out of your "I", "personality" or any other thing that you can use in this meaning. If you get "God Blessing" for reaching on anything, then you will reach it, if not - you'll not. It's simple.
Then I'm sure that some countries are "blessed" in some period of their Life, but some of them - not. Why? I don't know. I can bring you million reasons - why Rome was strictly better then Cartage & no one of then isn't better for me then simple statement:
"Rome cause was good & kind in this war, then God blessed this country. Cartage cause was malicious & cruell, then God cursed this evil thing!" You can name this statement - pure rubbish, but it was true for any Rome citizen.
Wait. Don't argue, please, because my next statement will be another sad truth. Rome went downward movement in moment when most part of Rome citizen told themselves: "We don't kind anymore. We are evil things. God curses us... We ask favors tyrants, we betray our dears for fear or for money, we... We can't behave nice before other peoples, then we are EVIL... God must punish us & our city..." You will be surprised, but God punished them as fast as possible. (Couple years ago I speak about this process with really bright scientist & he said me: "You tell about Freudian unconsious - it is real reason of auto-destruction great Empires - Rome, Cartage, or Soviet Union." I answered: There is a statement in Old Testament that God had many names & many meanings. If you prefer name it as "sexual copmlex" it is your own choice, but I think that you try to... make this thing smaller. You saw as our Soviet Empire collapsed - do you think that it cold live any longer?" He thought & answered: "No." "Can you say, that our country go down, because you, our friends, other good people saw our country in a true light & said to ourselves - We are EVIL. Our country used to make bad things, then we are cursed. Can you say that God punished us immediately after & it's no difference - had we economical. national or any other problem, or not? Or we had got all of these problem due to God cursed us as "great evil thing"?" Well...

It is the same story as Rome story - you began as "good boys" & really good people of whole world help you to fight with "evil Cartage", then you find out sad truth about your country & your former good friends began hating you by their guts... Then Barbarians, or Economical problems, or something else came to your door & you had no one friend who want to help you, because... Because you "eat alive" all of them. You became "Empire of Evil"...

Well, about your question - your startling personality is your main factor & reason of success, but you must realize that there are situations where your successes bring you & your country to more "evil condition" in eyes of your neighbours. Then - you personally & your country will be punished more harshly for your "bright achievment". That is that.

Sincerely yours, Alex.

P.S. I like to study Rome Early Republic, because these were times, when Rome was "strictly good" country. I like to study perion between 70s years of XVIII century & 40s of XIX because Russia was really "good" or tried to be "good" in Europe in that time. I'm not sure about other periods of our history ;).
 
By saying that when people see themselves and their nation as good and blessed by their God...they continue their success but when things start turning bad...greediness starts raisings it's head...people lose their faith to their good fate. I think that is very much true in both invidual level and in the whole national level.

Just look United States. I believe many on that country just can't take the critic against their own country and their actions because they have so high believe that their country does the best they can do in front of their God. Of course they sometimes can say that sometime in history some "mistake" happened (Natives killing like in Wounded Knee, Atomic Bombings) but will say that in that situation some thing had to be done and it was the only choice etc. I would like to see day (not sure would really want to see it but it would be intriguing) that USA would have really start believe that they are "evil" people. However I think that thing has partly changed nowadays...example USA survived the idea of the dirty Vietnam war issue. Maybe the in the current media enviroment there are always people who say that everything is going fine. Or do you believe it needs more like national political crisis that one empire would fall? I mean in the case of Soviet Union was it "outside" or "inside" pressure that finally made things change?

I personally believe into Freuds and Jungs Psychoanalysis about human beings and how certains things just affect people without themselves even really knowing it. People have need to defend themselves against things that could shatter their life part (even in just mental level...it's like yelling NO! NO! YOU ARE WRONG! WE ARE GOOD! :mad: ) whether the current life is happy really or not. People are afraid more of instability and cruelness than bad conditions otherwise really. Of course we can say it was "God" that affect people that way...we can say that without God's will something happened. I like to believe the fate is behind us and the free will is front of us.

When we talk about these things we notice that so many things affect certain empire fall...we don't want to think that way...we want to know "THE REASON". One reason only that could immediately tells us why something happened. Sometimes it's some person like there I named Scipio Africanus. But we need that one thing that "graps the moment" and tells what happened out there without long reasoning.

I don't really believe that humans are good or evil realy in deeper level but neutral :rolleyes: . We just need to believe into the goodness because without it we just fall into depression and it's true that last thing what leaves you is the last glimmer of hope. I think most people always strongly believe that in the end they will be punished from their actions. It's like some kind of superstitious thinking that "if I do this I'm sure God will punish me". However people can forget this thing for a while and I think it has to do with "social acceptation". If one isn't accepted the way he acts...he thinks he is somehow evil or that all other people are evil. This leads to feeling that whole world is in chaos and it's the same what you do because all will end in the pain anyway. This kind of frustration ultimately will make people more stressed and the feeling that God has left their cause.

But of course the historic studies don't really concentrate into psychological or spiritual level because it's many times considered unimportant. I think that is many times huge mistake.

Do you think that Carthage was really already "doomed" before the second punic war? :confused:
That Hannibal and his effort was useless in the end?

It's nice to read your intelligent posts BTW...
:)
 
Dear ViceRoy!

You were rise most important questions about History process. What was internal reason of that & that & why some individual or countries made that or that decision? And – “WHAT IF”?

Let’s stick only to Punic Wars theme & try to check all theirs reasons for example.

First of all, - who was “aggressor” in these wars & what was a reason for this aggression?
Answer is - Rome began all three wars due to one & the same reason – Cartage “piracy”. Rome was used to accuse Cartaginians in Rome’s sailors’ enslavement, Rome’s ships sinking, Rome’s traders assaulting & etc.
Had all these accusations some “sound ground”? Yes, they had. For explaining them we must to go to reasoning of Tire colonists for Cartage foundation. Cartage was found on really interesting place – in mouth of great harbor with Cartage & Utica as Jaws. If you check chart you will found that to southeast of this harbor was famous “Western Wall of thousand banks” known to ancient sailors from ancient times. (It had name of “Lotophagus Land” for Homer’s.) If you check rose of winds in Aegean Sea you will find that in November-December there is appearance of really strong wind from northeast. His origin is temperature difference in air masses over mountainous Asia Minor & relatively warm Aegean Sea. Ancient sailors named this wind as “Eurliquidon” – i.e. “Wind from East that made Sea – “Liquid” – i.e. “stormy”.) This wind usually drove any vessel from Aegean Sea into Mediterranean – in “Lotophagus Land” with its cliffs, banks & shallow waters. Strong wind from East didn’t permit captured vessels to go to west, south waters were more shallow & dangerous then north waters & eastern cliffs stops them. They slowly crawled along “Western Wall” till they saw Coastal Fortress of Utica fires & Cartaginians fleet with waiting slavers… (Utica surrounding hasn’t any farmland at all & this Sea Fortress was fed up from Cartage’s croplands.)
Cartage always was «Evil City» from ancient point of view & Cartaginians were “black & bad boys” of ancient world with a strong reason.
Fear of Cartage imprisonment was main cause of stopping of any trade & sea-connection in Hellas from November till March & ideas of Cartage attack were in constant flow in that times. In times of Peloponessian War between Athens & Sparta (really bloody & ferocious war indeed!) both sides tried to find temporarily compromise & begin coalition war against Cartage! You must realize extension of “thorn in the side” that create Cartage for any ancient state of the world! I read many analyzes of Russian Historians that stated – Cartage presence in Mediterranean was main debilitation factor for any ancient states development in West Mediterranean. Cartage presence ******** all West Mediterranean development on couple centuries from their possible blossoms. Any mercantile or fish-dependent or having big seashore country was “easy mark” for Cartaginians & that was that.

There is resemblance to DDT or penicillin usage: you use it & kill myriad of insect or bacteria, while some species develop immunity & then your penicillin is completely useless. If you name Cartage as “penicillin” of ancient world in West Mediterranean, Rome was this bacterium immune to Cartage “penicillin” influence & his Doomsday. (If your prefer DDT associations – it was “Bug of Doom” of some sort.)

Rome wasn’t mercantile, fish-dependent or having big seashore country. She never had good landing spot on her territory & it was best defense against possible Cartage invasions. She got really strong & kind relationships with her neighbors due to fact….
Rome economy was founded on slavery basis. (All ancient culture had the same basis as well). But if Cartage had their slaves as captured sailors & in some lesser extent - inhabitants of shore dwelling as result of pirate raids, Rome get only one enemy in a time & hack him until death, making all enemy people Rome’ slaves. Then Cartage used slave muscle power on his ships due to fact that he never had farmland enough. Slave labor is really inefficient, then Cartage prefer hired hand’s usage on his fields. All slaves were directed on building jobs & on fleet. It means that Cartage needed only qualified workers as slaves, then he used to kill all extra mouths in process. (It created numerous stories about human sacrifices to Baal that was Cartage custom.) It was a reason for Cartage slow population growth, when Rome used to name children of her citizens & slaves as Plebei (or Colons later) & get really fast baby-boost from this source. By the way Rome used her slaves for farm works exclusively due to soils in Middle Italy really hard for ploughing & it was most important, but really difficult work. If soft spot of Cartage was his trade routes, soft spot for Rome was permanent food shortage (this problem was relieved only in Caesar times after Egypt subduing. In any case main “slave region” for Rome became Campania (with its center Capua) & Sicily. It gets us to other interesting thing.

Soft spot of Cartage was his inability to overcome Rome fleet due to slave labor usage. Soft spot of Rome was her dependency on food outcropping far from the City. Then Hannibal strategy was most sound & appropriate of that moment – He came to Campania & help local slaves freed themselves from Rome yoke. Rome was hit by most long & difficult period of Hunger (from 214 till 207 BC) & lost from it till 1/3 of her population. (It was more then her lost in Cannae/Trasimen Lake/ so & so battles taken in sum!) It was Hunger that bring Rome crowd to Senate walls with demanding to make peace treaty with Cartage immediately THREE TIMES around! But Senators were sure that War was won, then they pacify crowd in first time, but they shut it & made harsh executions in consecutive uprising. Then we must say – Hannibal was really good commander, because he hit in most sensitive place, where it counts! (By the way his tactic & supportive forces was equal to tactic of Spartacus & numerous mutineers in Sicily.) There was a really “soft spot” in Rome armor J.

Sincerely yours, Alex.

P.S. I translated one of my short-stories with name “To kill Archimed”.

There this link:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads2/archimed_in_English.zip
 
For those interested, there is an publication called "Famous Romans" on CD that is a series of lectures by a professor of classics at some University I can't remember. Extremely good stuff, and very engaging. I spend a lot of time in the car and these types of things help pass the time.

He covers Hannibal, Scipio, etc. Just a thought if someone wanted some good history in a non-text format.
 
Your message was most enlightening Alex and I really like your story aswell.
I think I learned lot more about punic wars after your little lesson. And I think your "Insight" to these issues is very intriguing and you have certainly more storytelling ability than many other that are interested about history.

History has been more like hobby to me but I haven't been practicing systemically which have lead the fact that many things just escape my mind when needed. Example I knew there was hunger in Rome during those times but I completely forget about that it could have something do about Punic wars. That issue must have been important in the Carthage issue but also later times in Roman Empire.

Do you know about the issue how much did the fact that Carthage was old Phoenician colony weighted in the rise of Carthage and later in the downfall? The human sacrifices must have started really early…long before punic wars.

Don't you find weird that even though Roman did learn lesson of warfare it's use of cavalry was so unorganized? It would have been really important to Rome to learn the use of cavalry if you look at the later times. Of course cavalry was hard to get those times but it would have certainly gained nice advantage against many enemies Rome faced later and it's kinda strange they didn't really tried to find cavalry from somewhere.
 
Dear ViceRoy!

Your question about Cartage origin & his "blood relationship" with Phoenician civilization raise more interesring aspect of all Rome History - issue of her "Destination".

It's really complex & weird story. I would need to make 5-6 "lessons" for its complete revealing, but it is my shortened & abridged version.

I think you know that Rome was founded (by legend) by Greek colonists in really ancient times. Later Greek' influence was completely shadowed by local Latin culture tradition, then we have two parallel sets of legends of Rome founding (i.e. Enei story, & story about Capitoly Wolverine). Legend of Latin origin was more important for Rome citizens, but Enei story kept itself as weird rudiments in Rome religious teachings & beliefs. One of the most important source of these teachings is "Book of Sybil" that we got by fragments & as narrations from different Rome authors.
First of all - you must realize that Rome' Gods weren't equal to their Greek' counterparts & had completely different meanings & usage (their "convergence" took place later in Early Principate times under Augustus civil & religious codex). Main usage of original Rome Gods kept in... Astrology. Yep, Astrology meanings is more corresponding meanings of Rome gods, then their Greek analogues. (By the way, Greeks were more "materialistic" in their beliefs & used really uncommon fpr us naming of planets - Phaeton (Jupiter), Phenont (Saturn), Wesper & Eosper (sunset & sunrise Venus respectively) etc.)

Most important for Rome God was - Virtus, who got great resemblance to modern Mars, but had more meanings. In some sense Virtus was "Soul of Rome" & had really surprising correspondings in human body to Head &... nether parts (i.e. Mars of modern Astrology had influence on Head (Aries) & Reproductive system (Scorpio) in human beings. Then all Rome culture had subservient usage for pleasing "head &... other" needs. It brought real big affection of Early Rome to teaching of all sorts & great importance of lupanars (whore-houses), pornography & else for Rome culture development. (By the way - this great "affection" to "carnal pleasures" was most important issue to name Rome as "barbarian", "rude" & "vulgar" community then any other means by her neighbors.)
In any case - "Head" functions of Virtus was considered more important for Early Rome then anything else, & "Aries" aspects was considered more important then "Scorpio" aspects. Rome priests taught Rome people that most important thing for Rome prosperity is "Celestial Harmony" between Rome Virtus & other Gods. (Really sound idea for Astrology :).)
Aries has two most "Harmony" aspects - to Leo & to Sagittarius. You must realize that Rome didn't know modern associations with Leo & Saggitarius & considered them as "Sun" & "Jupiter" principles manifestation. "Sun" manifestation was linked to Greek God "Apollo" & his Soul was known as Noos (i.e. Knowledge) & "Jupiter" manifested as ("Power" & "Prosperity"). Then - Total Harmony by Rome beliefs could be reached by "Trinity" principle: Virtus (Willpower & Management), Noos (Knowledge & Forgiveness) & "God Blessing" ("Power" & "Prosperity" was prerogative of Early Rome Kings & lately - Senate as whole, or Consuls later (this is a Reason for Princeps having "Divinity" attributes in Principate times).
Virtus was Rome itself & Noos... Noos was Greece as whole.
By other words Rome from moment of her founding saw on Greece as - necessary part of Rome society & main reason of Rome existence was creating "Eternal marriage" with Greece. (Rome was considered as "Second Celestial Man" & "Greece as Second Celestial Woman"). Rome had really strong belief that any state is resembling human being & its "Destiny" is creating good sound family, raising offsprings, building "house" & at last - dying. (It is really strange thing - Rome phylosophers discussed question "what it will be, when Rome will died" without any winch, when more modern phylosophers meet idea of dying of any existent states with fits of hysteria ;).)
(Check History - when "Man" part of Unity, known to us as Imperial Rome, died - his "Woman" part, known to us as Byzantium outlive her "Celestial Husband" by one thousand years! It seems - these Rome phylosophers - knew issue they talk about! :) )

By the way - you could see that Rome priests saw Rome as "Second Celestial Man" but who was "First"?
Rome religious Dogma was: It began in really ancient times. Possibly there was other "Celestial Pairs", but we didn't know anything about it. First known "Celestial Woman" was Egypt. "Women always come into worlds earlier then Men, due to their Nature & always outlive their spouse". First known "Celestial Man" was Phoenicia (or "peoples from sea", or "Peleset" tribes of Bible, or Semito-Hamite tribes of modern meaning) & Chaldea (i.e. Babylon). "First Man layed First Woman by force & created First Celestial Marriage". Known "House of this Martriage" for Rome was Pyramids, Baalbeck & Hanged Gardens ruins & etc.
After really long time after there was appearance of "Second Woman" - Greece. When this "Woman" - realize itself & her Destiny "she decided to destroy First Marriage", because "she needed World for her own Marriage, her own House & her own offsprings". She born Alexander the Great who completely destroyed "First Man" - (Phoenician city-states & post-Babylonian state of Persia) & subdued "First Woman" making it - "Greek' slaverine". But "Greece was a Woman, but no one woman can make her work properly".
"Seed of First Man" in form of Cartage kept itself alive & now Life dangerous for "Second Woman" again. Then - it's job for "Second Man" - to destroy Cartage & any "seeds of First Man" completely. (This religious teaching was reason for really harsh attitude to Cartage, Phoenicia, ancient Jews & - later to Christians from Rome inhabitants.) Rome Destiny was "complete Cartage destruction", "laying Greece & making her Rome loyal Wife" (it was reason for really gentle attitude to Greece population after occupying this country by Rome forces), "breeding offsprings with Greece (by the way rome people believed that "husband - master of his house, but wife - master of house interior" (this was a reason for fast adaptation by Rome of Greece cultural tradition - "husbsand must try to please his woman by living in her way"). Etc.

By the way - in this religious teaching we got seeds of next most important Rome Civil War - between Anthony & Octavian. It was said - Old woman tries to steal our Man Power from Rightful Wife, then this old hags must be destroyed". (Somebody tried to pretend that "Old Woman" is Cleopatra< but if you realize that "Old Woman" is Egypt - you understand really bitter taste pf this war & reasons of Anthony soldiers - don't fight for Cleopatra (Egypt) cause!)

About Rome cavalry. You must realize that Horse was power status sign in any ancient society. In Rome number of Patricians families couldn't exceeded - 300 due to Rome had 3 "tribes" & 30 "curies". Then all other Patricians families (i.e. younger offsprings of usual Patricians) became Plebs families - i.e. became equal to slave offsprings. It was wrong thing for any conscience Rome citizen< then Patricians didn't like to underline this difference - it was considered really rude to ride before crowd on horse< - then many patricians having horses never used it. Name it as sort of "reflexia" or "aching conscience" for most noble Rome Patricians. :) But it was reason of really weak condition of Rome cavalry!

Sincerely yours, Alex.

P.S. Do you like some Fables?
I tell you one (keep in mind all text upper).

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Hannibal didn't have sufficiant supplies to take Rome. He didn't have a solid base. he lost 1/2 of his troops in the Alps
 
The most important reason for Hannibal's failure was Roman manpower. No matter how many battles he won, the Romans could still field other armies. Hannibal couldn't muster even 100, 000 troops in total but Rome had a reserve of 750,000 soldiers. Maximum estimates put Rome's loss at Cannae at 80,000, bearly a dent. Of course, Hannibal might well have fought more Cannaes but Fabius tactics of avoidance made that impossible. Not marching on Rome after Cannae, Scipio Africanus, or siege warfare are possible factors but Carthage's weakness in manpower(her citizens didn't do military service and she relied on mercenaries and the tribute levies of allies) prevented these factors from being important.
 
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