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Why does Al Qaeda hate us?

The reason no one discusses it, is because it is simple, We the West, are not good muslims. Terrorists follow strict interpertations of 7th century Islamic law as said by Muhammid, which basically says those who are not muslim and who do not follow the way of Allah should be killed or dealt with, but generally that is not all, that law is corruputed by Terrorist to fit there need.
 
wilbill said:
I do think, though, that it would be beneficial to recognize that US policies have, to some extent, contributed to Muslim extremists hatred of us. Policies can be changed, altered, modified, or abandoned.
They have been, several times. U.S. policy towards the region has changed frequenty in the past--sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse (what you consider "better" or "worse", is of course entirely up to you, the reader). Bill Clinton's attempts to arrange a peace treaty between Israel and Palestine, for example.

One problem is that Muslim extremists don't seem to realize the nature of the U.S. government; our administration, its political leanings, and its desired policies change every so often. We are not the monolithic Great Satan evil empire they make us out to be.

Why has the world forgiven, say, the Russians for the crimes of the Soviet Union? Because the people who ran the USSR are no longer in power. The people who made U.S. policy towards the Middle East fifty years ago are no longer in power. The people who invaded Iraq the first time around are no longer in power. Etc etc etc.

On the other hand, some U.S. policies seem to remain consistent from one administration to the next. Sanctions on Iraq after Iraq War #1, for example. George Bush imposed them; Bill Clinton kept them. Two Presidents, from opposite parties, holding the same policy line. Doesn't make much sense on the surface, does it?

Have you ever wondered why a President doesn't just put his foot down and say "Okay, we're getting out of the Middle East, NOW"? Maybe it's because being the President (and therefore having access to the various information sources to which ordinary citizens are not privy) gives you a completely different view of the world. There could be a darned good reason why the U.S. government has policies which appear stupid to those of us not in the U.S. government.

As the old Norse tale goes: Odin's throne allowed anyone who sat in it to see everything that was happening everywhere in the world. He saw all the good--and all the evil as well. All the bad things that one mortal had no hope of stopping. Mortals who sat in the Throne of the Gods were crushed by it; their hopes and dreams were destroyed when they saw that some problems are just too big to fix. Mortals were not meant to see the Big Picture.

It may just a Viking fairy tale, but it has a very pertinent message.....
 
1, 6, 7 are the ones I disagree with. The others I do agree with. 8 is a mix bag, I do know enough about them to make a stand on this one.
 
There is rational behind hatred. Name one instance of hate in which there is no "reason." There are many reasons why hitler hated the jews, he just took it to the most overboard and extreme conclusion.

If terrorists have reason to their madness, we should negotiate and give a few concessions to end this pointlessness.
 
I suspect that the main cause is not the aforementioned reasons but two simple facts

1. The Middle East is a dangerous poverty-stricken violence-prone mess. It makes people inside there pretty dang angry. Of course, they can't get too mad at thier corrupt leadership as dissenters aren't tolerated.

2. The West is a great scapegoat. We clearly don't act in thier interests, we can't confront them because we don't go there in vast numbers and since the leadership needs to explain why the live in such a mess, the West can often be blamed!
 
MeteorPunch said:
There is rational behind hatred. Name one instance of hate in which there is no "reason." There are many reasons why hitler hated the jews, he just took it to the most overboard and extreme conclusion.

If terrorists have reason to their madness, we should negotiate and give a few concessions to end this pointlessness.

The Jews were a scapegoat, for Germany’s economic problems.
 
Perfection said:
I suspect that the main cause is not the aforementioned reasons but two simple facts

1. The Middle East is a dangerous poverty-stricken violence-prone mess. It makes people inside there pretty dang angry. Of course, they can't get too mad at thier corrupt leadership as dissenters aren't tolerated.

2. The West is a great scapegoat. We clearly don't act in thier interests, we can't confront them because we don't go there in vast numbers and since the leadership needs to explain why the live in such a mess, the West can often be blamed!

I agree. I think that the terrorists have their own pains and problems and blame it on us. Therefor they think that eleminating us will solve their problems.

In that regard they are no different to scores of people throught histroy.
 
BasketCase said:
There could be a darned good reason why the U.S. government has policies which appear stupid to those of us not in the U.S. government.

As the old Norse tale goes: Odin's throne allowed anyone who sat in it to see everything that was happening everywhere in the world. He saw all the good--and all the evil as well. All the bad things that one mortal had no hope of stopping. Mortals who sat in the Throne of the Gods were crushed by it; their hopes and dreams were destroyed when they saw that some problems are just too big to fix. Mortals were not meant to see the Big Picture.

It may just a Viking fairy tale, but it has a very pertinent message.....
It is nothing but a fairy tale
Your whole reasoning that the president (Bush :lol: ) is all knowing when he is sitting in his chair is false.
Sorry, that isn't simply the case.
And certainly this thread doesn't want to go that same old route all over again.
Sure there is always inside information but by your thought nobody else knows nothing better than Mr. president
and even though I admit I did suspect something like that from you, you're still pushing it.
 
Coz "Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to suffering."

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The reason they hate USA is becoz they dont understand it. and thats why they fear it. they are scare that their privilages will be taken. those mullahs and other religious clerics. they are scare that their way of life will be change, they are scare that their oil will be taken away from them, when the American profit on their land. they are scare that their life are manipulated by someone far away. choosing their leaders for them, killing their childrens and families. they are afraid of another crusade from the christian army.

but they should be afraid, coz its all happening right now.
 
It is nothing but a fairy tale
Your whole reasoning that the president (Bush ) is all knowing when he is sitting in his chair is false.
Sorry, that isn't simply the case.
Bush is certainly not all-knowing, but he does in fact have access to a lot more information than we do, and therefore has a much more complete view of the entire world than we do.
 
That was the wrong way to write it.

EVERY President has access to a lot more information than we do. Ever wondered why some progressive politican (say, Mr. Willbill :) ) doesn't run for office on a center-left platform so he actually gets elected, then simply goes straight in and yanks the U.S. out of the Middle East completely?

Could it be the Throne? When such a person sits on the Throne, receives those intel reports from the Pentagon, and sees the entire world as it really is (or a much better view of it than you and I get, anyway), maybe he realizes that what seems like an obvious and workable solution to us, actually isn't going to work.

Anyway, the people who helped create Israel and commit other such crimes against the Arab world aren't working in the U.S. government any more. Folks who have a problem with us because of those actions way back when, are simply holding a grudge against the wrong people. Sorry, Mr. Radical Suicide bomber, but there comes a time when bygones are bygones.
 
sysyphus said:
@ Luiz :goodjob:

The sooner people can face the reality behind the violence, the sooner we can curb it.

But unfortunately people are stubborn and put vengeance ahead of solving the problem.
 
Why does Al Qaeda hate us?

Al Qaeda's twisted vision of an insane medieval Islamic world, devoid of learning or
progress is directly opposed to our Western world, devoid of learning or progress.

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I think its not about our religion or freedom. Its about our wealth. And Usama Ben Laden wanted to be Robin Hood :rolleyes:
 
BasketCase said:
Bush is certainly not all-knowing, but he does in fact have access to a lot more information than we do, and therefore has a much more complete view of the entire world than we do.

I think he is too stupid to get more informations :p
 
That's what he wants you to think.

Bush is anything but stupid. Don't believe his media image.

You don't survive long in US politics if you are stupid.

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We should realise there is in fact no real terrorist organisation called Al Qaida. At best it is some sort of a banking company, providing aid to various ambitious terrorists.

The question is:
Why do some (young) men from Islam culture think it is right or worth to kill numerous innocents?

The only reasonable answer I can think of, is the non-solved Palestinian question. It's ironical the Palestinians themselves can be blamed for this more than the western world.
 
You people will never solve the problem of terrorism. You think terrorists are to blame. They are. But we are too. Example: After WWI Italy got the western part of Slovenia. They turned to Fascism and wanted to destroy Slovenians. They started with forbiding slovenian language in schools, churches, everywhere in public. Then started to change Slovenian surnames to Italian, etc.. Just before the WWII, at the height of this "terror", TIGR fas formed. It was basically a terroristic organization. They defied Fascists and even killed some. So, were they evil? I think not!

Arabs worked with UK and France against Turks in WWI. They were promissed their own country. They didn't get it. Iran had shah Reza Pahlavi, he kept all Iranian wealth for himself or gave it to US, so they supported his regim; thus he put people in deep poverty! Same happened with Husein, he was US ally remeber? Same is happening in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan,...

So, if one's asking himself why does AQ hates us, one must be ignorant or even stupid.
I apologize, but that's the truth!
 
Stapel said:
Why do some (young) men from Islam culture think it is right or worth to kill numerous innocents?

The only reasonable answer I can think of, is the non-solved Palestinian question.
I don't think that's all. The West is a natural enemy for anyone who believes in the dream of a unified, triumphant, theocratic Ummah.
 
They hate you because you have troops in their most holy cities . I don't know about Islam , but AT LEAST 10 % of the entire Hindu populace would be willing to take up arms if America even tried to ritually rape us as it does the Middle East . Consider yourself lucky that the terrorism you have faced till now is of the "big attack once in a while" type . Regular terrorism - as in a small attack every other day - is much more firghtening in any region where it is practised .

An American base in , say , Ayodhya , which was put there without popular support , would not last a week .
 
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