Why is Theodora choosen to represent the Byzantines?
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punkbass2000
Des An artiste
Sex Appeal
Tomoyo
Fate
She was very infleuntial. Justinian was just the guy who got all the credit.
I think they wanted a few female leaders (I also would wonder why they chose Joan of Arc instead of Napoleon of Louis XVI [or whatever the number was] or Catherine instead of Peter the Great/Lenin/Stalin [although that is rather politically incorrect, but they had Mao], although that makes more sense than some of the others), plus what punkbass2000 said.
Tomoyo
Fate
Cathy for sex appeal? 
punkbass2000
Des An artiste
You probably mean Louis XIV, he was the good one. His son was competent but uninterested and his grandson was just a gluttonous pig who ran the country into the ground.
DBear
unbeliever
If you want Justinian bad enough, there IS a Justinian leaderhead available in the custom units section.
eldar
ChiefTank
Theodora does give Izzie a run for her money in terms of sex appeal....
Only reason I can think of, in the Byzantines exhibition at the NY Met earlier this year, there was no mention of her!
Neil.
Only reason I can think of, in the Byzantines exhibition at the NY Met earlier this year, there was no mention of her!
Neil.
Theodora was important, but you can hardly say that Justinian was just a figurehead who took all the credit!
I think that if they wanted a female ruler for the Byzantines they should have had Irene, who was the first woman to rule the Roman empire in her own name and an extremely important and powerful ruler too. If her plan to marry Charlemagne hadn't been thwarted by the Byzantine court who knows how history might have turned out...
I think that if they wanted a female ruler for the Byzantines they should have had Irene, who was the first woman to rule the Roman empire in her own name and an extremely important and powerful ruler too. If her plan to marry Charlemagne hadn't been thwarted by the Byzantine court who knows how history might have turned out...
The Last Conformist
Irresistibly Attractive
They obviously wanted more female leaders, and figured, probably correctly, that Theodora would trump Irene for name-recognition.
@Plotinus: We now know what your first alt-hist scenario is gonna be.
@Plotinus: We now know what your first alt-hist scenario is gonna be.
warpstorm
Yumbo? Yumbo!
The real reason. They wanted another female leader. Of the new civs they figured that she was the one that the artists most wanted to make of the options open to them.
The Last Conformist
Irresistibly Attractive
What options for a female leader are there for any of the other new civs that wouldn't be completely ridiculous? I suppose Queen Johanna of the Netherlands wouldn't be crazier than Joan of Arc ...warpstorm said:
The Last Conformist
Irresistibly Attractive
IME, the more popular an historical account is, the more it stresses Theodora's importance, the more scholarly the more Justinian's. Make thereof what you will.
?Sex Pistol
Chieftain
It's pretty sad when I hear that Theodora from the Byzantines is hot... but if you know your history, she WAS a prostitute. I personally think that Justinian or even Belisarius (even though he never ruled) should have been chosen. Same with Napoleon in France's case. Maybe civilization was under fire from feminist groups? Hardly doubtful but *shrug* you never know. Either that or they wanted to make it 'fair'.
warpstorm
Yumbo? Yumbo!
They get a lot of complaints from female players (and developers) that there aren't enough female leaders. My officemate complained loudly to them to include Theodora rather than Justinian (and she was in a position to be heard).
punkbass2000
Des An artiste
Yeah, I've heard a few complaints at various boards about the inability to choose gender like you could in Civ2. There was one guy who seemed to have this as a main complaint, right up there with tanks and spears. I don't see how the gender thing could be game-breaking for anyone, but to each their own...
