halfhalfharp
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I always find late game in VI is boring. Starting from industrial era, everything remains unchanged and it goes like a repetition of maintaining the empire to victory, rather than playing. That normally makes me quit the game, after working so hard from ancient to modern era, as I know that victory is assured.
I have seen a number of posts well addressing the problem and discussing the late game diplomacy and alliance systems to mimic what we had in the past 100 years. If we can have a drastic and dynamic mechanism in the late game, the total picture will surely be more more interesting.
Taking reference from the real world history, 20th century was the age of massive wars. Then slowly recovering from those wounds, we entered the 21st century of diplomatic wrestling. Currently the game mechanism gives nothing in generalizing such important features for modern worlds, so I would like to present some suggestions:
World war system
After World Wars: Diplomatic pressure system
When a world war ends, all the civs will realize the hazard of being alone and desperately look for diplomatic allies and friends. At the same time, people start to voice out their own thoughts and doubt their existing way of governing.
Every single civs will have only 40% internal loyalty pressure left, while external loyalty pressure from a friend civ will be added as internal pressure. Every ally grants a civ with +20% external loyalty pressure. In this way, civs must actively seek for alliances/friends in order to sustain their own loyalty needs. And alliance can now be used as an effective weapon to intervene other civs' loyalty
As the loyalty pressure becomes a big problem without allies, civs will tend to form alliances with each other, pushing the players to actually look at the diplomacies. And for government choice is also an essential parameter in diplomacy, same government civs tend to ally/befriend together. The whole system will function like USSR and USA expanding international influence in cold war.
About Golden age points:
In later eras, era points are really difficult to get, especially when we have achieved a few golden ages before. I hope that this system can also provide some golden era points as well.
Also, I would like to see introduction of more dark age policies fitting this system: e.g. a policy that boosts combat strength against units of a different government etc.
In short, it will be a world rotating massive wars composed of various allies or watchful peace, no longer a stable boring world that consumes patience in the original late game Civ 6. There will be no one left in the corner that can be free of the conflicts (as long as you are not using oligarchy in 2xxx lol). The whole game will be more dynamic, instead of sitting for the victory to finish.
I have seen a number of posts well addressing the problem and discussing the late game diplomacy and alliance systems to mimic what we had in the past 100 years. If we can have a drastic and dynamic mechanism in the late game, the total picture will surely be more more interesting.
Taking reference from the real world history, 20th century was the age of massive wars. Then slowly recovering from those wounds, we entered the 21st century of diplomatic wrestling. Currently the game mechanism gives nothing in generalizing such important features for modern worlds, so I would like to present some suggestions:
World war system
Spoiler Starting a world war: :
Spoiler During the world war: :
Spoiler How it ends: :
Spoiler Starting a new one: :
After World Wars: Diplomatic pressure system
When a world war ends, all the civs will realize the hazard of being alone and desperately look for diplomatic allies and friends. At the same time, people start to voice out their own thoughts and doubt their existing way of governing.
Every single civs will have only 40% internal loyalty pressure left, while external loyalty pressure from a friend civ will be added as internal pressure. Every ally grants a civ with +20% external loyalty pressure. In this way, civs must actively seek for alliances/friends in order to sustain their own loyalty needs. And alliance can now be used as an effective weapon to intervene other civs' loyalty
As the loyalty pressure becomes a big problem without allies, civs will tend to form alliances with each other, pushing the players to actually look at the diplomacies. And for government choice is also an essential parameter in diplomacy, same government civs tend to ally/befriend together. The whole system will function like USSR and USA expanding international influence in cold war.
About Golden age points:
In later eras, era points are really difficult to get, especially when we have achieved a few golden ages before. I hope that this system can also provide some golden era points as well.
Also, I would like to see introduction of more dark age policies fitting this system: e.g. a policy that boosts combat strength against units of a different government etc.
In short, it will be a world rotating massive wars composed of various allies or watchful peace, no longer a stable boring world that consumes patience in the original late game Civ 6. There will be no one left in the corner that can be free of the conflicts (as long as you are not using oligarchy in 2xxx lol). The whole game will be more dynamic, instead of sitting for the victory to finish.
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