WOTM 08 Final Spoiler

Decided to try and go for domination with this one.
Aim for the first half of the game was to get Mansa vassalised (and productive) and get to Astronomy as quickly as possible, with his help.

Built the Great Wall just as two barb warriors had a chance of sacking Istanbul, which was lucky :)
Built Stonehenge, which was a little pointless, really.
Missed building the Oracle by a couple of turns, which was annoying.

Something very frustrating was happening in my game, Mansa was the founder of both Hinduism and Judaism, yet no religion ever automatically spread to my cities. This slowed me.

War: Mali (680-1200AD)
Razed too many cities I think, Mansa was furious with me, and never capitulated. I left him with a couple of cities with the hope of trading techs and gaining a vassal later on.

Learned Astronomy in 1190AD and upgraded my galleys. Picked the weakest target on the other continent, Elizabeth.
A couple of turns before I could get my knights to land outside London, Hannibal declared on her and proceeded to cut up her lands. I needed to be fast.

War: England (1320AD-1410AD)
Unfortunately, I could only capture London, before Liz became Hannibal's vassal. Oh well, a foothold of sorts.

War: Russia (1450-1520)
Stalin was a pushover, once I'd captured Moscow, he capitulated.

War: Carthage/England (1545-1590)
Things were going great. I'd just learned Military tradition, had just upgraded a bunch of knights, and was hoping to roll over the continent with ease... when Hannibal decided to research Rifling, and mass upgrade! So I conquered England, and signed peace treaty with Hannibal. I then moved onto...

War: Persia (1610-1650)
A turn after my cavalry rolled towards Persepolis, Cyrus learned Rifling too. So, I was slowed again. However, my Level 3 cavs with Pinch were still too good for Rifles. Cyrus capitulated.

War: Carthage (1645-)
I was close. Just needed a few dozen more tiles. Hannibal's troops were still weary.

War: Mali (1670-)
Had to punish Mansa for being so useless and never capitulating, so I reached the domination Limit through taking his remaining cities.

Finally reach the domination limit in 1695AD.

Great People:
4 Great Scientists, 2 Great Engineer (Great Library, Parthenon), 4 Great Generals (One Military Academy, One Instructor, Two Warlords), 1 Great Prophet

Golden Ages:
1st Golden Age (1585AD) - From Taj Mahal.
2nd Golden Age (1660AD) - (Great Prophet, Great Scientist)

Good Things:
Building Great Wall just in time.
First to circumnavigate - made my galleon trips more efficient.
First to Liberalism - got cavalry 10 turns quicker.

Bad Things:
Building Stonehenge (pointless)
Missing Oracle by couple of turns.
Not being able to vassalise Mansa. I should have kept him sweet and killed him later.
Not getting any religion until 1260AD!
Not anticipating Rifles appearing so quickly, I could have moved quicker.

I know I could have probably won pre-1600AD. I played the first half of the game too quickly without thinking properly, which cost me a lot.

Fun game though! Hannibal is rapidly becoming my Civ 4 nemesis! :D
 
DynamicSpirit: you shoulda tried vassalizing him to gain production overseas...Cyrus tends to vassalize fairly early on. ;)
 
Well, lack of time has kept me from writing any detailed spoilers lately, but I guess I should at least comment on this one before it falls completely from memory. Before the game started, Erkon and I agreed to compete for the earliest conquest.

There was plenty of space to expand peacefully, so I left Mansa alone for quite some time. This was probably a mistake, since when I finally declared war on him he was so advanced that I had to sue for peace after razing a single city. I beefed up my army and conquered the rest of Mansa save one city, but this had already thrown off my timing as I had Astronomy well in advance of finishing Mansa off.

I stupidly beelined for Liberalism and took Military tradition as the free tech. Well, the cavalry was great for conquering the other AIs, but I could have gotten cavalry much earlier if I had taken that research path directly.

Made up some time by quite rapidly conquering the other AIs, netting me a conquest victory in 1600 AD. But...

Erkon: Conquest Victory 1595 Doh! :gripe:


One turn late... it was a close race, congrats Erkon! Hope that gives you an award too! :king:
 
I think I could've won, but the war against MM was a LONG slog & still not finished. I had a mid-month vacation 5/12 - 5/20 and figured I could never get done in time so let it go. I probably was on the road to YADW (yet another domination win) but I'm really getting bored with those, and it's drudgery to finish them off.

I moved on to GOTM18 and I'm looking at YADW there too, I think I'm sitting at around 40% land in 17xx and on the march? But after returning from vac I find myself bored about finishing that too, so who knows if I will.

Here's hoping WOTM09 ends a different way for me. I'm going to try very hard to make it so.
 
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