Would you point out a cash register error (in your favour)?

Would you point out a cash register error (In your favour)?

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RedWolf said:
Ok... since there are some other Ontarians in this thread...

The government plans to introduce a wine bottle deposit charge - $0.20. Which will start in a few months. Basically they'll charge you $0.20 per bottle at time of purchase and to get the money back you have to take the empty bottles to another location to get your refund.

If I start saving empty bottles now (when theres no deposit charge....) I may get $5.00 or so outta this deal for free. Is THIS immoral? I figure if I have to drive my empties back to a DIFFERENT location for the rest of my life... I may as well scam $5.00 now if I can.
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well the new law was created to get you to recycle, correct? if so, they're still getting you to recycle, so I don't see the problem.
 
ybbor said:
well the new law was created to get you to recycle, correct? if so, they're still getting you to recycle, so I don't see the problem.
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:)

Yeah but the law was meant to not cost the government $0.20 per bottle. Was meant to take my money as collateral and then repay it when I fufilled the obligation.
 
I wonder if there is any correllation between the twenty voting thieves and any particular political ideology.
 
John HSOG said:
I wonder if there is any correllation between the twenty voting thieves and any particular political ideology.
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Well I'd hardly say it's theivery... In these cases there was no active participation by the consumer... Theivery would be maybe putting one item inside of another so the cashier doesn't see it... If a corporation chooses to employ underqualified, underpaid, inexperienced staff during the absolute busiest time of the year.. mistakes become the cost of doing business.
 
RedWolf said:
Well I'd hardly say it's theivery... In these cases there was no active participation by the consumer... Theivery would be maybe putting one item inside of another so the cashier doesn't see it... If a corporation chooses to employ underqualified, underpaid, inexperienced staff during the absolute busiest time of the year.. mistakes become the cost of doing business.
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Okay, see, now if you were wondering whether I was interested in debating whether it is thievery or not, the answer is most definitely 'No'. I see it as a form of theft. Keep your rationalizations for wrong-doing to yourself.

On the topic of employee qualifications and compensation, I would ask you consider whether or not you really believe that anyone is perfect or could be. In all likelihood, when a mistake like this occurs, it is not the corporation that suffers most. The person that suffers most is the poor, underpaid cashier who at least gets a black mark against him or her and, at worst, gets fired and/or pay deducted from their check, because of it.

I know that a lot of you claim to care about the average worker when you talk about political issues such as minimum wage, healthcare, or other such things. Where is your sympathy now? You thieves are just that, thieves, but you are also a bunch of hypocrites, as well.
 
John HSOG said:
Okay, see, now if you were wondering whether I was interested in debating whether it is thievery or not, the answer is most definitely 'No'. I see it as a form of theft. Keep your rationalizations for wrong-doing to yourself.

On the topic of employee qualifications and compensation, I would ask you consider whether or not you really believe that anyone is perfect or could be. In all likelihood, when a mistake like this occurs, it is not the corporation that suffers most. The person that suffers most is the poor, underpaid cashier who at least gets a black mark against him or her and, at worst, gets fired and/or pay deducted from their check, because of it.

I know that a lot of you claim to care about the average worker when you talk about political issues such as minimum wage, healthcare, or other such things. Where is your sympathy now? You thieves are just that, thieves, but you are also a bunch of hypocrites, as well.
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Dude, it's how capitalism works, there's no protection for the worker.

That's why pretty much anyone who voted that they'd take the momney said they'd do it from a big corporation, but not a corner store.
 
John HSOG said:
Okay, see, now if you were wondering whether I was interested in debating whether it is thievery or not, the answer is most definitely 'No'. I see it as a form of theft. Keep your rationalizations for wrong-doing to yourself.

On the topic of employee qualifications and compensation, I would ask you consider whether or not you really believe that anyone is perfect or could be. In all likelihood, when a mistake like this occurs, it is not the corporation that suffers most. The person that suffers most is the poor, underpaid cashier who at least gets a black mark against him or her and, at worst, gets fired and/or pay deducted from their check, because of it.

I know that a lot of you claim to care about the average worker when you talk about political issues such as minimum wage, healthcare, or other such things. Where is your sympathy now? You thieves are just that, thieves, but you are also a bunch of hypocrites, as well.
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As has been mentioned before - the cashier sufferred no consequences. Their till did not come up short because the item was not scanned.

As far as theivery goes - there is a national pharmacy chain near my house. 1 out 10 things I buy on sale fails to ring up on sale. Sometimes I catch it, sometimes I don't. When it comes to "me against the corporations" - I'd say we come out about even.
 
John HSOG said:
You thieves are just that, thieves, but you are also a bunch of hypocrites, as well.
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So it's my responsibility to correct mistakes made by the store? They're free to institute processes and procedures to eliminate and reduce thse mistakes yet they do not.

You condemn me yet where is your condemnation for the corporation that would punish a minimum wage cashier for a simple human error?
 
RedWolf said:
As has been mentioned before - the cashier sufferred no consequences. Their till did not come up short because the item was not scanned.

As far as theivery goes - there is a national pharmacy chain near my house. 1 out 10 things I buy on sale fails to ring up on sale. Sometimes I catch it, sometimes I don't. When it comes to "me against the corporations" - I'd say we come out about even.
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It is not just about this one incident. It is about all of them. Just because the cashier may have gotten away unscathed this time, doesn't mean that they do each and everytime you people steal, again.
 
RedWolf said:
So it's my responsibility to correct mistakes made by the store? They're free to institute processes and procedures to eliminate and reduce thse mistakes yet they do not.

You condemn me yet where is your condemnation for the corporation that would punish a minimum wage cashier for a simple human error?
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The focus is on the point of sale, so I have only thus far spoken to that issue, but if you want the truth, I do condemn the managment for such things. None of that changes the fact that you people are thieves, however, and that all of the trouble could be avoided through honesty.
 
I've done it many times and will continue to do it in the future.
 
John HSOG said:
The focus is on the point of sale, so I have only thus far spoken to that issue, but if you want to truth, I do condemn the managment for such things. None of that changes the fact that you people are thieves, however, and that all of the trouble could be avoided through honesty.
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Is it any different from avoiding as many taxes as you can?
 
John HSOG said:
None of that changes the fact that you people are thieves, however, and that all of the trouble could be avoided through honesty.
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Ever purchased an item for a particular price... got up to the cash register and found that it rang up at a higher price? Turns out the item was marked incorrectly on the shelf. They'll give it to you at the lower price anyway - why? It was their mistake and thats the cost of doing business.
 
nonconformist said:
Is it any different from avoiding as many taxes as you can?
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If you are doing so through legal means, then I don't see any problem with it, but if you are cheating on your taxes, then you deserve to go to jail.
 
RedWolf said:
Ever purchased an item for a particular price... got up to the cash register and found that it rang up at a higher price? Turns out the item was marked incorrectly on the shelf. They'll give it to you at the lower price anyway - why? It was their mistake and thats the cost of doing business.
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Very well, then. That is the conscious choice of the business itself. That is nothing similar to issue at hand.
 
John HSOG said:
If you are doing so through legal means, then I don't see any problem with it, but if you are cheating on your taxes, then you deserve to go to jail.
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It's the same thing; if the registrar doesn't scan it, or it is tagged at the wrong price, it is fully legal to do.
 
I celebrate such things once away from the shop.
 
I would and I have on many occasions.
 
John HSOG said:
Very well, then. That is the conscious choice of the business itself. That is nothing similar to issue at hand.
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Ok then here's another scenario - say you work for a large corporation and they happen to pay you every two weeks by cheque... One week you forget to cash the cheque.. Do you think anybody is going to call and remind you that you're owed some money?

Or every year the government sends out income tax refunds... if I shove mine in a drawer and forget it ever existed - is the government going to call me up and remind me to cash it? Unlikely.

So are these things considered theft as well? I'd say no... Why? One side fulfilled their obligations by mailing the cheque. They can not legally or morally be held responsible for my incompetence.

Or another example: A large electronics retailer offers a "price protection" offer wherevy if I see the same item I bought (within 90 days) at a lower price either in their store or somewhere else I can return and get the difference back. If i buy a TV for $600... and they discount the same TV the next week for $450... Does anybody call me to inform me of the $150 I'm owed? Nope.
 
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