XX Century Mod

[S-God]

Kohl & Hitler are avaliable in custom game

Andy,

thanks for your reply. I've tried it, it works. But another question (excuse me if this is a stupid question i'm probably not as experienced as most of you guys): Is there any way to have either of them as leaders in the scenario?Cos everything i can do with custom game is to load some random map because it does not recognize the XX Full Map.
Another bug (probably known) with the scenario: I can not start a golden age, although i would have the people for it.

Best wishes,
S.

 

[jlocke]

you're gonna want to do "custom scenario", which is an option if you have 1.61 installed.

 

[AndyTerry]

Andy,

thanks for your reply. I've tried it, it works. But another question (excuse me if this is a stupid question i'm probably not as experienced as most of you guys): Is there any way to have either of them as leaders in the scenario?Cos everything i can do with custom game is to load some random map because it does not recognize the XX Full Map.
Another bug (probably known) with the scenario: I can not start a golden age, although i would have the people for it.

Best wishes,
S.

Nah.
Really? Strange... Are you sure that you have needed amount of great people of different types?

 

[jayhawk97]

Hey guys, just spent the better part of yesterday and last night playing through a couple different games... I had great fun, this is one of the best mods available.
However, some minor issues I wanted to point out:

1. The entire map is revealed, but you don't have contact with the other leaders. I had to take a tour with my Galleon to meet them all.

2. Soveits have way too many cities... I never played as them, so maybe I didn't realize how productive (or not) they were. But, they started the game about 1500 points ahead of me when I played America.

3. More colonies in Africa for the Europeans... I would like to see a full map, with no land unowned. Maybe having them control so much land down there is unrealistic, but it would give them a much better chance to win, I think that they are very underpowered. Especially Spain.

4. In the Americas, I would like to see Mexico, as there are only four civs there presently. However, I don't know who you'd take out to make room for them. Also, give USA a city in Alaska.

5. Canada and Australia are too powerful, they control so much land, which is correct... but they are scoring way too high. In one game, I had... Stalin...Me(USA)...Trudeau...the Australian dude.

6. The great people rush in the early game. (I think that's already been said.)

7. I would like to see leaders who are more likely to adopt religions and civics they really did use. Like, US should start with free religion and every religion in every city. I was playing Spain, and running Christianity with Theocracy, and here came Adenaur urging me to convert to Judaism???

I'm sorry if these have already been addressed, but you said that Version 3 was gonna be perfect, so I'm just pointing out some problems I had.
Thanks for a great mod, I am eagerly awaiting your next release.

 

[AndyTerry]

Hey guys, just spent the better part of yesterday and last night playing through a couple different games... I had great fun, this is one of the best mods available.
However, some minor issues I wanted to point out:

1. The entire map is revealed, but you don't have contact with the other leaders. I had to take a tour with my Galleon to meet them all.

2. Soveits have way too many cities... I never played as them, so maybe I didn't realize how productive (or not) they were. But, they started the game about 1500 points ahead of me when I played America.

3. More colonies in Africa for the Europeans... I would like to see a full map, with no land unowned. Maybe having them control so much land down there is unrealistic, but it would give them a much better chance to win, I think that they are very underpowered. Especially Spain.

4. In the Americas, I would like to see Mexico, as there are only four civs there presently. However, I don't know who you'd take out to make room for them. Also, give USA a city in Alaska.

5. Canada and Australia are too powerful, they control so much land, which is correct... but they are scoring way too high. In one game, I had... Stalin...Me(USA)...Trudeau...the Australian dude.

6. The great people rush in the early game. (I think that's already been said.)

7. I would like to see leaders who are more likely to adopt religions and civics they really did use. Like, US should start with free religion and every religion in every city. I was playing Spain, and running Christianity with Theocracy, and here came Adenaur urging me to convert to Judaism???

I'm sorry if these have already been addressed, but you said that Version 3 was gonna be perfect, so I'm just pointing out some problems I had.
Thanks for a great mod, I am eagerly awaiting your next release.

1. OK

2. So what did you want?

3. Wait for 3.0

4. Impossible. Only 18 slots avaliable

5. Because score depends on territory and population

6. It's because of high culture and many techs discovered

7. All civs start with initial civics. Can't make all religions for each city in America, cause it'll give the USA too much bonuses.

 

[ibcoltscrew]

5. Canada and Australia are too powerful, they control so much land, which is correct... but they are scoring way too high. In one game, I had... Stalin...Me(USA)...Trudeau...the Australian dude.

I don't think we are too powerfull, cause in real life Canada and Australia are PowerFull, even if the people from the USA think we are not, we are ! It's like France, lot of people from Occident think the French are weak, wich is not the case in real life, France produce more than 80% of their electricity with Nuclear Power.. they are a SuperNuclearPowerNation even if you don't like it. Same thing with Australia and Canada, Canada have been the first with the UK to discover the Nuclear Reaction...
My opinion is, Canada and Australia are Pacific Nation... they are not a threat to you in the game, whats the problem ? You want a Weak Canada, you really want to see the Chinese or the Russian delcaring war to Canada and Invading the North America... in that Case Canada have to be a little OverPowered because it's a game and in this game, the Computer will not lose the occasion to conqer a Big Weak Nation.

Information about Canada at War. Since 2001 we have 16 death (5 have been killed by USA Friendly Fire + 3 were diplomat = 8 death on the military side) "Edited" I forgot to mention that 6 soldier died in Road Accidents... Total Record is 2 death on the battlefield... not bad for a Weak Nation at war against the Terrorist.... how many death you guys have for both Afghanistans and Irak War ? Think about it and please, keep in mind Canada and Australia are two great nation for alot of people on earth except the United States (USA think all nation are stupid and weak)

 

[MaxRiga]

lol, nice conferention u get there falks, lol

to - jayhawk97
i agree with everything u've said above but please note, that Andy's Mod was mad just as MOD , not as scenario and the map wasn't really good because it was made just to let people play XX CENTURY MOD. But now Andy is working on scenarios and hopefully he will balance the countries

to AndyTerry
i wish u really luck in balancing the countries. it's taken more then one day for me with my scenariouses ))

to ibcoltscrew
man, u never answer on my posts when i was telling something to u but i try to get ur attantion one more time, lol.
why u always trying to tell americans that hey are not as good as they think they are? ( by ur own opinion, by the way ) isn't it smarter just let them thinking the wrong way? )))

 

[ibcoltscrew]

to ibcoltscrew
man, u never answer on my posts when i was telling something to u but i try to get ur attantion one more time, lol.
why u always trying to tell americans that hey are not as good as they think they are? ( by ur own opinion, by the way ) isn't it smarter just let them thinking the wrong way? )))

Sorry mate, i'll try to answer this time My problem with the american is that they are most of them my ennemies, i espacially don't like the Republican Side of the United-States and BUSH. The Culture in america is not fair for the other Nation... at school i have learn things with no real interest because they don't want us to learn the other Culture wich could be a Very Good things for us in North America (we are so ignorant). Hollywood have taken the Lead (Cinema is doing the Education of our Children) and McDonald is better known than Jesus by the Children (Result in FAT people - more than 60% in USA because they like better eating McChicken than good Vegetable).
I think American must WAKE UP and take control of their destiny, they got a Bad Governement and it's what happen when a Bad Governement represent your people (the american). The Democracy is not the solution becasue if America is a model for the Democracy then my answer is NO THANKS. Freedom, Free of what ? Free to exploit the World Oil Ressources, Free to start a war without the Support of the UNITED NATION (the world)... you see what i mean..
At the moment, i'm not proud of my Canada too, Stephen Harper is our new Prime Minister and he is a RightWing-ProAmerican-ProBush-Anti-KyotoProtocol and a man of OIL. Sad years for the North America i must say !

anyway, it's my opinion like all the time and it doesn't really matter for most of people, i'm just feeling good when i can talk about it, i really hate the United-States of George Walker BushJr (also known as 666, Great Satan in the World)...

BTW, take a look on google maps, check the White House, Check the formation of the Street, you will see the Lucifer Star and the White House right at the top... Next look the Capitol of Washington, you will see the New World Order Pyramid with the Street Formation again... if you don't beleive me then go ahead and take a look. http://maps.google.com/

Have Fun with the Reply

 

[xxJFKxx]

@Iboltscrewterry:

you always try to point out how important canada is. its - for sure - a nice country, and people - in average - are more european oriented/thinking than the average citizen of the united stats but your country is NOT the US and you cant even compare the industrial, military and cultural power of these two nations. just for you some facts:

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US Population:
298,444,215 (July 2006 est.)

Canadas Poulation:
33,098,932 (July 2006 est.)

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Economy US

GDP (purchasing power parity):
$12.41 trillion (2005 est.)

GDP (official exchange rate):
$12.47 trillion (2005 est.)

GDP - real growth rate:
3.5% (2005 est.)

Economy Canada

GDP (purchasing power parity):
$1.08 trillion (2005 est.)

GDP (official exchange rate):
$1.023 trillion (2005 est.)

GDP - real growth rate:
2.9% (2005 est.)

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@Terry

If you consider this and look at the current "power" of countrys like Canada, Russia and Australia you will find out that they are much to overpowered. Nuclear Energyis not a sighn of Power! France is one of the most important countrys in Europa with an great ammount of influence in Africa, as well its one of the most pouplated countrys in Europe (i think arround 60.000.000) which is double size then Canada ... germany is 80.000.000 btw ...

To make the mod a bit more balanced i would strongly suggest to give some countrys a technological advantage. i would also skip some minor citys in Russia, Canada and Australia or Add more citys in Europe as well as Colonies. The Power of an country is not based on the size, its based on technology, population and industrial power ...

regards,
JFK

 

[jayhawk97]

Ibcoltscrew
I never meant anything against Canada or Australia, I respect those countries greatly, probably my first 2 choices to visit if I were to travel internationally. Almost all Aussies and Canadians I've met have been great people.
However, I'm not going to say that militarily speaking, Canada and Australia are as strong as US, Russia, and the European powers... that is one place where you just can't argue.
But, I agree with you that our government and parts of are culture are corrupt, I am Republican, but only beacuse I see it as the lesser of two evils. Both parties are horrible, and I would love to see another group emerge. A lot of things about America are screwed up, but its gonna be that way considering that this is the biggest melting pot of cultures in the world. So, I am not happy with my government. However, I believe that Democracy is the best form of government, as long as you don't have idiots running it. (Which we do).
So, I've got tons of respect for your country, I think it's a great place, and maybe a bit less screwed up that us right now... but it can't even begin to comapre to us in power.

JFK and Ibcoltscrew
Wow, the numbers don't lie...
Canada is a great place, but not as powerful as US.

JFK

To make the mod a bit more balanced i would strongly suggest to give some countrys a technological advantage. i would also skip some minor citys in Russia, Canada and Australia or Add more citys in Europe as well as Colonies. The Power of an country is not based on the size, its based on technology, population and industrial power ...

What I've bolded up there is exactly right... I think a perfect solution, techs take so long to research in this mod that just 2-3 extras for US, Russia and European powers would certainly do the trick. We'll see what Andy says.

AndyTerry

2. So what did you want?

7. All civs start with initial civics. Can't make all religions for each city in America, cause it'll give the USA too much bonuses.

2. I would take out maybe 3-4 of their cities.
7. Are you saying that you can't change their intitial civics or you don't want to? And maybe not all religions, but some other than Christianity. I think a free religion empire with 3-4 religions for each city is no more powerful than Organized Religion with a strong influence of one.

 

[AndyTerry]

7. Are you saying that you can't change their intitial civics or you don't want to? And maybe not all religions, but some other than Christianity. I think a free religion empire with 3-4 religions for each city is no more powerful than Organized Religion with a strong influence of one.

I don't want to
No. No, I think. Christianity is religion of vast majority in America.

 

[pacesplace]

to ibcoltscrew

Stephen Harper is our new Prime Minister and he is a RightWing-ProAmerican-ProBush-Anti-KyotoProtocol and a man of OIL

You should be very happy. The US could beat Canada in a war if it was one on one. And don't tell me Canada would use vegetables and its impressive army of 50 billion to defeat us.

Aren't we getting off topic, though?

 

[xxJFKxx]

to ibcoltscrew



You should be very happy. The US could beat Canada in a war if it was one on one. And don't tell me Canada would use vegetables and its impressive army of 50 billion to defeat us.

Aren't we getting off topic, though?

well, the only one that gets offtopic is you ... actually i am happy that the politicians of canada and the us seem to be much smarter then most of their citizen that visit this board

 

[Talon500]

after one move none of my units can move ...

 

[xxJFKxx]

I don't want to
No. No, I think. Christianity is religion of vast majority in America.

well, i agree with terry. i think it would not be a good soultion to push the US with religions that they dont really have. if you consider that the MOD starts in 1900 you will agree that the stats where arround 95% christians

todays us (sorry if i bore with numbers again )

Current US Religions:
Protestant 52%, Roman Catholic 24%, Mormon 2%, Jewish 1%, Muslim 1%, other 10%, none 10% (2002 est.)

which makes round about 78% christians, plus some precent from the 10% "others" that also go towards christianity

regards,
JFK

 

[pacesplace]

well, the only one that gets offtopic is you ...

Quoting stats of the economies of Canada and the US to prove that the US is way better than Canada doesn't have much to do with the awesome XX Century mod, does it?

 

[xxJFKxx]

Quoting stats of the economies of Canada and the US to prove that the US is way better than Canada doesn't have much to do with the awesome XX Century mod, does it?

well mate, i quoted them to make my point clear that the US is to weak or canada/australia are to strong ... your comment just exists to provoke iceboltcrew - mine was ment to optimize the mod

 

[S-God]

Nah.
Really? Strange... Are you sure that you have needed amount of great people of different types?

Ah yes, sorry. I've not played the game for a while before I started ur mod. My fault. Apologies about that.

jlocke: you're gonna want to do "custom scenario", which is an option if you have 1.61 installed.

I have, but custom scenario does not let you choose another leader but Adenauer.

Best wishes,
S.

 

[ibcoltscrew]

@Iboltscrewterry:
If you consider this and look at the current "power" of countrys like Canada, Russia and Australia you will find out that they are much to overpowered. Nuclear Energyis not a sighn of Power! France is one of the most important countrys in Europa with an great ammount of influence in Africa, as well its one of the most pouplated countrys in Europe (i think arround 60.000.000) which is double size then Canada ... germany is 80.000.000 btw ...

To make the mod a bit more balanced i would strongly suggest to give some countrys a technological advantage. i would also skip some minor citys in Russia, Canada and Australia or Add more citys in Europe as well as Colonies. The Power of an country is not based on the size, its based on technology, population and industrial power ...

regards,
JFK

Yes our economy is not the same, our military is not as powerfull, our governement is not their governement... well, we are not the United-States of America... BUT, you have to admit the American think they are the Best, it's a fact and it's my problem, i'm just trying to give a balance because if i don't take defense for my Canada, who will ? That's a pretty good subject in my opinion and it need a debate but, keep in mind everyone think their country is the best, cause if you don't your not a the good place !

 

[ibcoltscrew]

to ibcoltscrew



You should be very happy. The US could beat Canada in a war if it was one on one. And don't tell me Canada would use vegetables and its impressive army of 50 billion to defeat us.

I'm not happy, i'm not Pro-American and i still beleive and will always beleive like my anceter that YOU CAN'T conquer Canada... you were not able to take it with the Independance War, so you will never be able to take it... forget it, Canada don't need an Army, we have already enough Friends that have one (France-UK-China-Russia-Australia- Well i'm not gonna list 171 (UN country) Country in there...)
BTW look at your White House and find the Satanic Stars, for me, all religion (even the Christian) and the world, you are the BAD guy.