XX Century Mod

Ok just to let Andy know, i will stop this topic about the USA, i miss time right now and have to work alot this week...
you guys know i am Pro-Canadian and Anti-American, if any of you (american) want to debat personnaly, write to me at ibcoltscrew@hotmail.com, i'll be happy to send you a bigmac with fries, i know you could not resist :lol: :lol:

o and i almost forgot ... i hate Bush
 
ibcoltscrew said:
With 33 post you have no credit, i feel sorry for you... go away :rolleyes:

35 now :rolleyes:

Where is this satanic symbol I'm supposed to be seeing on Pennsylvania Avenue? All I see is the the location of the world's most important building, as it contains the executive branch of the world's only modern superpower.
 
heres your credit!!! any way Andy there are some unit movement issues I got, I can only move the unit once and no more....
 
xxJFKxx said:
@Iboltscrewterry:

US Population:
298,444,215 (July 2006 est.)

Canadas Poulation:
33,098,932 (July 2006 est.)

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Economy US

GDP (purchasing power parity):
$12.41 trillion (2005 est.)

GDP (official exchange rate):
$12.47 trillion (2005 est.)

GDP - real growth rate:
3.5% (2005 est.)

Economy Canada

GDP (purchasing power parity):
$1.08 trillion (2005 est.)

GDP (official exchange rate):
$1.023 trillion (2005 est.)

GDP - real growth rate:
2.9% (2005 est.)

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JFK

If you are saying USA are better for they have more money, you should now why: Net paying their bills to the UN and other organnisation, I know that in 2004 the american forigin dept were 645000000000(billion) USD and and a overall dept of 5129000000000000(12 zeroes)USD but theu still have 1519000000000000(12 zeroes)USD in the goverment budget, so pay your bills
 
General_Pyotr said:
If you are saying USA are better for they have more money, you should now why: Net paying their bills to the UN and other organnisation, I know that in 2004 the american forigin dept were 645000000000(billion) USD and and a overall dept of 5129000000000000(12 zeroes)USD but theu still have 1519000000000000(12 zeroes)USD in the goverment budget, so pay your bills

well mates, maybe you got something wrong here, i dont want to discuss with you about global and local economycal problems. i tryed to point out that there is a huge difference between some countrys represented in this MOD. The difference is what we just call "power" and the power of an country strongly depends on their:

- technology
- population
- industrial power (ability to produce)
- economy (!!!)
- natural resources
- gouverment stability

in chase of the comparison canada - usa you will see that the US has a very powerfull economy, this also means: in chase of war they can use this production power to build war related products. the same with population, there is a simple rule that definies how many percent of your population you can "use" in a war (male - age between 16 and 50 - no handicaps ...) at the end you will see that the states can afford an army that is arround 10 times bigger then canada, a army that is twice bigger then russia and an amry that is only one third of chinas army :crazyeye:

i am far away from beeing a US fan but for me its not fun when some african mate starts winning a war against the us ... just destroys the mood and the realism in the mod.
 
whats wrong with the US?? they got my custom unit (Apache) have you seen it yet?
 
I'd like to thank you guys.
Thanks to you, this thread has become a pile of worthless posts claiming that one country is better than another.
Thanks to you, no one can find the relevant, on-topic posts in this thread anymore.

Remember? This thread was about Andy Terry's XX Century Mod, not a place for you to write nationalistic bullsh*t. No one wants to read that.

Thank you.
 
You're quite welcome, actually. People like you haven't come out and post relevant information about the mod, so don't complain.
 
Well, the mod wouldn't be fun to play if you can't win with anyone but USA/Russia... Sure, it should be easier to win with them, but don't let realism get in the way of good fun.
 
pacesplace said:
You're quite welcome, actually. People like you haven't come out and post relevant information about the mod, so don't complain.

Well, I think we didn't want to add fuel to the flames...many people ignore idiotic discussions cause the mentally weak seem to argue even more, if a substantial argument is brought forward. ;) Call it appeasement, but it works mostly.

scousebr said:
Well, the mod wouldn't be fun to play if you can't win with anyone but USA/Russia... Sure, it should be easier to win with them, but don't let realism get in the way of good fun.

I share that point of view! If you play for example Saudi-Arabia it's very hard, but possible to conquer Turkey & Egypt and to settle in Afghanistan / Pakistan. Afterwards you are a real powerful country in 1925 e.g....

Proposing that the Arabs would have startet a war in 1900, most european states would have sent troops to protect their imperial interests. Realistic behavior is not displayable by the diplomatic system of Civ 4 (only by event-trigger), so let's not expect too much realism. It's great fun to become global power as for example Saudi-Arabia.
 
True the game should be about fun...

but it should indeed be easier with the USA or the British, the French or the Germans, the Russians or the Chinese.

Depending on the time period of the scenario of course...
 
Let's wait for the upcoming scenario with realistic colonies... That should help...

In my opinion it shouldn't be easier playing the US or Russia. They perhaps would have been able to conquer America / Eurasia (Afghanistan 79-89 should be a good example :lol: ), but the bodycount (I hate that word) would have been incredibly high.

I think winning by domination before 1950 would be very boring, so don't make the global powers even stronger, the minor powers will fall behind and Germany is definitely none of the big, Maverick (England & France have nukes, but I wouldn't compare them with the potential of the USA / UDSSR / China).
For all minor states Stalin is already hardly stoppable if you don't have lots of allies and for some reason, he doesn't like me. ;)
 
Well it depends on the time period pre WW2 England, France and Germany are world powers...

but post WW2 they are not, perhaps for a present day scenario they could be done as permanent allies, also including Spain and italy and Scandinavia...
 
Maverick667 said:
Well it depends on the time period pre WW2 England, France and Germany are world powers...

Right, but then Europe needs much more resources...those three german cities have to make them a little stronger tha france and its colonies together. ;)


Maverick667 said:
but post WW2 they are not, perhaps for a present day scenario they could be done as permanent allies, also including Spain and italy and Scandinavia...

I think it's better to do it like Max did in his MaxRigaMod... Western Europe is represented by one Coutry called "NATO", not right, EG or EU (2nd in an post-1992-scenrio) would have been better, but a very good idea. As a real fan of european integration I would LOVE to play the game as Jean-Claude Juncker, who's perhaps the most important european alive... (I'm not from Luxembourg ;) )
 
I'm having a problem where the MOD doesn't recognize the technologies I have. Oil is required to construct most modern units and is revealed by the Scientific Method. I already have that tech, but I still can't construct the units I want. The oddest part is that I already built the units in question, saved the game, then restarted, and now I have the problem described above. How can I fix this?
 
Are you perhaps trading oil? I had two wells yesterday, sold one to Gandhi and a french spy destroyed one of them. It took quite a couple of rounds until I found out, that one of the wells wasn't working anymore...and I was still delivering oil to India.
 
Hmm, I'll check into that. In my experience, Civ has rather poor notification for when Bad Things are about to happen/have happened. Or maybe I just don't pay enough attention...
 
This may sound like a dumb question but in your first post you claim that Mexico, Poland, Palestine , Romania and a few other nations exist in your mod. When I start it up though I don't ever see them on the map. I started as USA and the first thing I noticed was that their was no Mexico. Did I do something wrong or do you have to play on a random map to get those nations to appear?
 
still no v3? finished exams now so would love to redo the 64x40 to make it more proper and realistic.. whats expectation for release andy?

ediit: I never found those civs when I was making smaller map. I don't get this either..
 
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