Yet another ZWK Game.

[Ohwell]

Hmm well my Soviet forces were not actually going to attack Turkey... well I did send a lone tank division to maybe capture Sinope in conjunction with my capital ship but thats all...

The rest of my forces were in Poland and Balkan territory, poised to begin assistance to the Allied cause!

 

[Darius]

:enlighten That's it! The "issue" is that the game has already been won!

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

Yea. Let's have an after game discussion.

I had some nice surprises in store everyone. Some of them I won't share.

 

[Darius]

Hmmm, well, Elibb and I did coordinate U-boats and ships in a way that could have made us win in the Mediterranean, but I guess that still wouldn't have made any difference in France and, um, Russia.

 

[Ohwell]

I did think that elibb should have invaded France faster... it would have cleared up alot of space for the Allies to manuever in.

I don't know what HIS plans were though. Might have been to go through the Balkans and attack me first, or perhaps he was cautious of Frances "power" or....

Enlighten me please!

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

sas and I were telling each other strike zones, sharing recon with each other, combining our attacks, man it was great!

One thing that set me back a bit wa when the neutrals ended our alliance. It sent my bomber in northern Italy back to Gibralter.

And it sent all my troops around Greece back to Tobruk.

One good thing it did though was send my bombers that were in the Finland area back to England. The next turn elibb starting hitting their cities, and asuuming he had air cover, would have been able to blow them away with no problem.

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

Originally posted by Ohwell
I did think that elibb should have invaded France faster... it would have cleared up alot of space for the Allies to manuever in.

I don't know what HIS plans were though. Might have been to go through the Balkans and attack me first, or perhaps he was cautious of Frances "power" or....

Enlighten me please!

He went trough the Miginot line (sp?). Big time set back. It gave us time to prep France and transfer lots of troops around and for me to get my ships near Amsterdam. So when he did finally take them, I was able to bombard the crap out of them.

 

[Darius]

I don't know what HIS plans were though. Might have been to go through the Balkans and attack me first, or perhaps he was cautious of Frances "power" or....

Enlighten me please!

Well, when I made my mean "get it together" comment on the thread, he told me by PM only that he was spending his resources on industrializing and that he would take France soon after that. But that wasn't much of an explanation to me since the forces he had in the first place, regardless of later industrial reinforcement, were sufficient to finish France very quickly. He said nothing of other operations.

Doesn't mean he did bad necessarily, he just didn't know that in this scenario, or in any WWII scenario for that matter, it will be disastrous for you if your initial successes aren't very quick. You can't let the allies have time to make up for their lack of forces in the beginning.

He went trough the Miginot line (sp?). Big time set back.

Aha! You posted that while I was typing this, but yeah that explains why he didn't do it with what he had.

 

[Ohwell]

Ack the Maginot line explains it... ow... I'd have done that myself if I hadn't discovered that they are disabled with the capture of Paris...

Even the militia there are tough to beat. They can fight off Stuka attacks and very often Pz II and III attacks! Also useful for destroying Strasbourg *hint*

 

[Darius]

what do you mean militia? You don't have to attack them either! Just bypass them like you bypass the forts!

But still, Duke, where did you sent that fleet, and why?

 

[Ohwell]

Originally posted by Darius
what do you mean militia? You don't have to attack them either! Just bypass them like you bypass the forts!

Ehm I know that but they are still a nusiance especially to Strasbourg *hint*

I believe DoM sent at least one ship to Greece because I think I remember spotting one with my own ship.

 

[Darius]

No, man, hit Strasbourg from the west! Then they're no problem. Just finish off all of France's cities, and then, finally, grind up any leftover forces with bombers.

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

Originally posted by Darius
But still, Duke, where did you sent that fleet, and why?

The fleet in the Med?

If I was at home, I could show you a screenshot.

They were guarding Greece the last turn or two, before that they were guarding the small sea opening between Tobruk and Greece. They were just waiting for our Italian invasion. I had 3 capital ships, 1 carrier, 2-3 fighters, 3-4 bombers, 5-6 Inf div, 1 matilda, and 3-4 M3's. One more turn and my next transport would have been done and then 9 turns later we would have landed at southern Italy.

Just before we landed, Greece and Minor Allied Africa were going to start their offensives.

 

[Darius]

You rush-built all that?

 

[Ohwell]

Originally posted by Darius
No, man, hit Strasbourg from the west! Then they're no problem. Just finish off all of France's cities, and then, finally, grind up any leftover forces with bombers.

Nonono I mean they are good units for the French to use... to burn down Strasbourg once it is captured So your better off leaving a Pz III or PzGrenadier there so it won't be burned down by militia.

 

[Darius]

Oh, I see.

You rush-built all that?

Not to mention it's overkill anyway. In ZWK 2 I'm about to take out Italy with nothing but a Sturmovik, a few units of occupying infantry, 1 M3, and my ships. That's all you need since they truly are nothing but Militia. Then again it's AI I'm dealing with, but even against a human the stuff you're using is a bit much. You could have used that cash for troops in Europe.

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

Originally posted by Darius
You rush-built all that?

The Allies start down there with most of it (Cap Ships, carrier, fighters, some Inf, few M3's) I rushed a bomber very early (the one that killed the sub in the eastern Med) and went from there.

On my first turn I disbanded almost all of my infantry (except for the two front cities) in Africa to get the shields and then built better units from that.

sas had a major force coming across Africa too.

 

[Darius]

Could have disbanded that carrier too. I haven't needed it.

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

Originally posted by Darius
You could have used that cash for troops in Europe.

I used very little cash for troops in Africa, compared to France.

You can never have too many troops. Plus, once you start in Italy, you keep going in Italy. I had no intention of just taking one city and stopping.

 

[Duke of Marlbrough]

Originally posted by Darius
Could have disbanded that carrier too. I haven't needed it.

It was the easiest (only?) way to get the fighters to Italy. I had no intention of taking the outlying islands first, just hitting Italy proper.