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What happened to the southern Maya states?
Alternate History NESes; Spout some ideas!
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das
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No, they are one nation. They are somewhat like Austro-Hungary, with Poland playing the dominant role.
Il-Khanate. A Mongol uberempire, in part because I like those, in part because I want to help out the future moderator, if any such comes. No use for all those tiny Indian and Central Asian and Middle Eastern states, they only take up stats and time.
They were in deep decline historically by then. Disease proved the final blow to them... for now.
Alexandrian Celestial Scenario
I learned of this myth off a war-games website, offering a peculier army (note to history buffs- wargames websites are a wonderufl resorce to get images of just what any particuler style of trooper from by-gone nations woudl have looked like, and usually have a lot of information as well) I will quote the author of th elittle article;
weather or not any such thing happenjd is up for debate- I'm skepticle of course- one woudl think that such a blatant aid from "the gods" (or the aliens in this case) melting a Tyrean tower would be the right kind of propaganda to send back to greece, and make the overlly religious Tyreans beg for mercy from this scion of the gods- obviouslly, niether of those happend.
but what if it had- what if humanity entered a strange period of beiogn gifted uber-adavaced technology from two alien forces fightin thier own little war of proxy on a planted in the barbaric hinterland of the galaxy?
one can onyl wonder at how the world would be effected by such a thing.
I learned of this myth off a war-games website, offering a peculier army (note to history buffs- wargames websites are a wonderufl resorce to get images of just what any particuler style of trooper from by-gone nations woudl have looked like, and usually have a lot of information as well) I will quote the author of th elittle article;
weather or not any such thing happenjd is up for debate- I'm skepticle of course- one woudl think that such a blatant aid from "the gods" (or the aliens in this case) melting a Tyrean tower would be the right kind of propaganda to send back to greece, and make the overlly religious Tyreans beg for mercy from this scion of the gods- obviouslly, niether of those happend.
but what if it had- what if humanity entered a strange period of beiogn gifted uber-adavaced technology from two alien forces fightin thier own little war of proxy on a planted in the barbaric hinterland of the galaxy?
one can onyl wonder at how the world would be effected by such a thing.
das
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I doubt anybody ever read Zvyagintsev over here, but there was a very interesting idea that. Two ideas, actually. One about two alien superpowers fighting a Cold War in space, and interferring in events on Earth, both with different reasons connected with highest levels of physics as well as politics. One power, say, eradicated Khazaria to let Kievan Rus become a superpower. The other unleashed the Mongols. One helped Alexander Nevskiy, the other created Lithuania. And so on. Ofcourse, there were numerous alternate timelines created in the process...
Another idea can be used to explain the way NESes work in a science fiction style. Alien superentities playing "chess" of sorts - no direct interferrence, but providing influence on the minds of different people, usually rulers and the like.
Another idea can be used to explain the way NESes work in a science fiction style. Alien superentities playing "chess" of sorts - no direct interferrence, but providing influence on the minds of different people, usually rulers and the like.
Sgt.Hellfish
King of the Oceans
I have heard of something like that whether I have heard of that Im not sure but it did sound intresting 
das
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ATTENTION PLEASE - as NES2 II seems dead or about to die, there is a large probability that I will start a NES based on an old scenario of mine that I posted here. Some of you might remember the "Titannic Survives" scenario, no? Those of you who don't, please visit page two of this thread.
Amenhotep7
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You are? Shoot, I was looking forward to the Almohad conquest of Iberia NES. I'd gladly take Byzantium or Scotland. 
das
Regeneration In Process
Oh, unless Gelion starts that NES, I will probably start that one eventually as well...
I sort of created that scenario for YOU to start a NES in it. You or somebody else who visits this thread, anyhow.
Amenhotep7
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I think I will start it. But not till AmenNES3 is long dead and buried.
Insane_Panda
Deity
I think you should do the Titanic timeline das, its wonderful
If you did start it, I'd be tempted to take Germany, but i should post that in a reservation thread, not here
If you did start it, I'd be tempted to take Germany, but i should post that in a reservation thread, not here
Insane_Panda
Deity
Jahaa! The Early twentieth century provides much more fun!
at least in my opinion
das
Regeneration In Process
I honestly don't like Dark Ages and stuff - probably because that its the area where Xen knows more then I do. And besides, I like the ideals of Total War and Nuclear Armaggedon more then some puny "Rise of Rome", "Fall of Rome" and so on.
And besides, I like the ideals of Total War and Nuclear Armaggedon more then some puny "Rise of Rome", "Fall of Rome" and so on.
Sheep
Orange Shrooms!
I would join that nes and may I shotgun Germany.
das said:I honestly don't like Dark Ages and stuff - probably because that its the area where Xen knows more then I do.
total war and nuculer armageddon are the shot down cleches of every single moder NES that fails by update 10, becaus eits on over worked, and over played concept that has no orgininality in it what so ever, no matter ehat the basic set up is, because in every singel one we get A)strong germany B)Strong USA C)Mighty Russia that need sot be awakend to war, and D)The Falling but still powerful british empire- in every single goddam "modern" NES. every tiem one starts, a limite dpool of players grab up said countire,s mostlyl russia and germany from a select bunch, which makes it even more boring, and predictable- the only way you could possible pull off a unique, and wonderful "modern" style NES experince is by putting the power situation in europe, and perhaps the world, on its head- what if war lord era china (of th emore moder era) stayed that way, and we have several competing nations- what if france was split up between variosu powers after the napoleonic wars- what if austria made stronger attmepts to either unfiy germany under its banner, and not at all, lettign southern and eastern europe fall away from its grip?
thats the sort of stuff that MIGHT make a good moder NES- not a simpel twist on already well known, and over played history.
by contrast, we see the earlier date NESes get quite a reception- why? becaus eplayers get a bigger chance to build up thier nations, and more importantlly, make real changes in history. a scenario set on the rise of the fallen Rome would do just that- present players with another scenario that hasnt been done before, that offers real uniqness, and a chance to do some cool things that never happend, and were lamost completelly unlikelly to have ever happend in our time line.
das
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See NES2 I. It survived until update 25, and ended only after the nuclear armaggedon. It was a very popular NES as well. I also happened to moderate it, and had an overall great time.
So why not repeat it?
So why not repeat it?
das
Regeneration In Process
But, admittedly, I DID put the world-wide power situation on its head by having England win Hundred Years War.
Insane_Panda
Deity
Sheep - I already asked for germany , but this is not reservation thread. I did however post my claim for germany in das' other thread.
I think someone should do a NES based on the Napoleonic wars, set circa 1835-1850.
I've been toying with the idea that Napoleon never went into Russia, and thus the Grande Armee didn't disintegrate. Instead, Napoleon went back into Spain personally, instead of just letting his officers do the job. In he went, and out he came, with a relative on the throne. Portugal was taken, and England was thrown off the continent. Russia and Prussia kept nuetral. Austria is still recovering from her defeat, and England and France are at a naval stalemate.
Napoleon made another go at Egypt and the ottomans as a whole, liberating suez with a dream of reaching India by way of canal. Austria gained some small balkan states, while greece became independent under French protectorate. Russia is now powerful more than ever, the quality of her land forces almost that of France, although the artillery is still poor. The HRE is gone, in its place is the confed. of the Rhine, a French german puppet headed by Bavaria. Prussia is a small independent state now, recovering from their defeats in the early campaigns. Sweden is ruled by French allies. (One of Napoleon's marshalls became king of sweden in our history). Spain is a French puppet. Algeria and Tunis were handed over to France, and the ottomans have egypt, palestine, and a small hold on the balkans.
Napoleon is beginning a canal through the Suez, and the British are shivering in their boots, their Indian colonies already threatened by the French in the Pondicherry and the southern deccan, but still holding due to English naval superiority in the Indian ocean. The French rule India directly, and are somewhat more tolerant, while the British East India company rules British India, giving way to the historical Sepoy rebellion that may or may not happen depending on British policies.
Also, French is opening small trading posts in Siam and Annam. The region being called Indochine.
A map of sorts of how you can expect the french empire to look like.
light blue reflects French puppets and allies, Sweden overtook Norway in our time line. Denmark is nuetral, and Austria is forced into alliance. France completely holds France, the lowlands, Italy, and the illyrian provinces.
Edit: Greece is also independent, and note this is not a real map, just a basic outline. I have europe mostly done on my computer somewhere.
The Outline is brief too, not completed yet.
, but this is not reservation thread. I did however post my claim for germany in das' other thread.I think someone should do a NES based on the Napoleonic wars, set circa 1835-1850.
I've been toying with the idea that Napoleon never went into Russia, and thus the Grande Armee didn't disintegrate. Instead, Napoleon went back into Spain personally, instead of just letting his officers do the job. In he went, and out he came, with a relative on the throne. Portugal was taken, and England was thrown off the continent. Russia and Prussia kept nuetral. Austria is still recovering from her defeat, and England and France are at a naval stalemate.
Napoleon made another go at Egypt and the ottomans as a whole, liberating suez with a dream of reaching India by way of canal. Austria gained some small balkan states, while greece became independent under French protectorate. Russia is now powerful more than ever, the quality of her land forces almost that of France, although the artillery is still poor. The HRE is gone, in its place is the confed. of the Rhine, a French german puppet headed by Bavaria. Prussia is a small independent state now, recovering from their defeats in the early campaigns. Sweden is ruled by French allies. (One of Napoleon's marshalls became king of sweden in our history). Spain is a French puppet. Algeria and Tunis were handed over to France, and the ottomans have egypt, palestine, and a small hold on the balkans.
Napoleon is beginning a canal through the Suez, and the British are shivering in their boots, their Indian colonies already threatened by the French in the Pondicherry and the southern deccan, but still holding due to English naval superiority in the Indian ocean. The French rule India directly, and are somewhat more tolerant, while the British East India company rules British India, giving way to the historical Sepoy rebellion that may or may not happen depending on British policies.
Also, French is opening small trading posts in Siam and Annam. The region being called Indochine.
A map of sorts of how you can expect the french empire to look like.
light blue reflects French puppets and allies, Sweden overtook Norway in our time line. Denmark is nuetral, and Austria is forced into alliance. France completely holds France, the lowlands, Italy, and the illyrian provinces.
Edit: Greece is also independent, and note this is not a real map, just a basic outline. I have europe mostly done on my computer somewhere.
The Outline is brief too, not completed yet.
das said:But, admittedly, I DID put the world-wide power situation on its head by having England win Hundred Years War.
exactley- do mnore things along thos elines, and you have a good basis for an nes. NOT soem bull **** with essentially the same geo-poltical relations as we get in every god-damn NES, they are boring, Germahy is always a meglomanica, britian always the preservationist concerned imnperium, who would rathe rnot get involved, the us alway reluctant but eventually willign, and all the other bull ****.
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