PimpyMicPimp
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I would be very disapointed if they left Civ 4 as it is now. Yes, Bhruic's patch fixes all the horrid bugs, but I'd have some serious issues with Firaxis if they left the official game in shambles like it is now.
The Next Patch after 3.13
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PimpyMicPimp
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It shouldn't be up to the community to fix a company's sloppiness. It's their job to produce great, bug-free games, not ours. It also shows a lack of concern on their part to leave us with crapped games. Let's look at Blizzard, one of the things that makes them such a force in the gaming world is that they don't release crappy, unfinished games and they continue to perfect and work on them. Look at Starcraft! They are STILL patching it! That kind of dedication should be the bar that all companies in the industry strive for.
Besides, I'm sure the majority of civ players have never heard of CFC, so they won't be able to play with Bhruic's patch. A company needs to take care of it's customers.
King of Town
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after bhurics patch what do you think needs fixing?
azzaman333
meh
I'm sure releasing an open beta version of the game that players could bug-test for Firaxis would solve many of the problems.
Öjevind Lång
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Why??Bhruic's fixes everything important, just play with that.
That still doesn't mean that everyone would want to buy a game if the producers never bother to patch it properly.
Incidentally, I played a recent game with Bhruic's fix, and I couldn't build the Internet with it. No other civilization had built the Internet; the option simply did not exist, though the Civilopedia and the research tree still mentioned it.- That looked like a really big bug to me.
Often Nintendo simply won't release games if they're not ready. That's why those games are (IMO) great (but they're often late too...)
I've been playing Medieval 2 Total War. A good game, but they released an expansion before they fixed the goddamn original game! The game was very buggy when it was released. After a LONG time they released 1.2 which fixed many bugs (yet not all of them). AFAIK the game is still buggy (wasn't it released two years ago?). No way I'm buying their next game if it's unfinished.
PimpyMicPimp
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They need to make Bhruic's patch official.
I agree.
Another patch would be good, but if it isnt going to happen then Bhruic's patch needs to be made official for the sake of multiplayer.
You cant just say oh Bhurics patch fixes it because very few people from the complete Civ User base will actually have installed it.
Another patch would be good, but if it isnt going to happen then Bhruic's patch needs to be made official for the sake of multiplayer.
You cant just say oh Bhurics patch fixes it because very few people from the complete Civ User base will actually have installed it.
Obviously it is since it was never able to do so, and the whole concept was dropped in Civ 4.
azzaman333
meh
Replaced, actually. With the crappy Warlord concept.
Nothing crappy about the Warlord IMO. Though I never attach it to any unit, except for maybe one to get a level 6 unit. All the rest become specialists or Academies. They're alot more useful that way. Attach them to a unit and that unit will probably be dead in no time.
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It should be said in defense of Firaxis that it takes effort to make a game so user-friendly to mod that a Bhruic or a Solver can even exist. Instead of doing a good job on official patches, they do a good job on setting the game up such that it's even possible for fans to make them. It's a flawed system to be sure, but it also has some advantages over the more traditional one.
There seems to be some kind of graphics card problem. I have never been able to get a game to finish. After a few hours it simply crashes. I've tried new drivers, I've tried scaling down the graphics, I've tried smaller maps, I've tried less civ's, I've tried windowed mode, I've even tried running with all fans set to high.
Yes, this is a laptop. I know it isn't designed for games but Civ IV Warlords worked without ever crashing. BTS crashes without fail.
Graphics card: ATI Mobility Radeon X1400
I am only posting this here because I'm hoping the game coders/testers are reading this thread. I loved playing CIV.
Wodan
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Have you posted in the tech support forum?
Wodan
Wodan
The only mistake they made with the army was giving them 3 capacity. The fact the AI would send off with only 1 or sometimes 2 equipt mean they knew this was just powerful, unrealistic and so were just tryin to play fair! lol
What you all don't know is the army unit when only equiped with 1 unit is stiil a good advantage over other formations. THe kind of advantage that is warrented for the amount of resources invested!
Reasons Army is still a potent advisary with only 1 unit attached :
1: the army with only one unit still has a significantly larger lifebar. A normal unit is usually made of mulitple troops so a 1 peice army can still be considered a mass formation thus true to the sence of the word.
2. Because of this extra life the army unit has a MAJOR increase in chance of being promoted to elite, hence even greater life bar discrepency between the average opposing unit. You see you have more of a Chess 'rook' type here, not the all chessy invincible army that took out a civ when stacked with few artys
3 : the unit has the extra movement!. With this it can attack more red-lined units and thus arrivie at 'Elite' faster. This means its odds in combat are quickly what an expienced army should expect . A inexpiernce army can still take a licken and thus this 1unit Army model better reflects that.
With the 'Army patch' Its a better game. REality is Today civ3 players have a more balanced unit thats more realistic and more fun to use and guess what? the AI USES THEM AS MUCH AS YOU!!
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Here we have mulitple AI armys stack attackin
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So as you see the 'Army' abilty is code removed that brought added to benifit to the game, especially as hope agaist '40 city Civs' that can be common place. OH wait they took that out to!
Anyone with the unoffical Mod, excuse me, you call it an Unoffical patch? The people who come get it enjoy better civ3 just like those who mod civ4 can do the same yet without the army. Only differnce in civ3 is anyone can do it with dloading a patch.
SO whats the drawback? Why do you hear some civ3 fans still say the Army unit was never fixed? Its very Simple. The only people here who ever say this are, or better 'were', civ3 hall of fame players.
With Buruic's Patch im sure you can still compete in this site's unique challange but in civ3 god forbid you make the game more real cuz you will be disqualified from access to the Hall of shame/, I mean 'Fame'
The main problem there is you have to ROP the crap out everyone to be called "Good" The AI not being able to use armys is the least of the fun sucking. How about cheasy expliots you need to repitivly pertake in for ANY chance at the leaderboards?
Note I have nothing against HOF when done AS a fun 'once n while' thing but the guys who all they do is stick to reaming like glue, they give off the most complaints and 'earned' the Civ creds to get listened to. Worse for the average fan, its fact the best reamers earned a job beta testing the next sequal.
By the time they got in Fireaxis's studio it was big trouble for normal players. These Legendary exploit relying HOFers hated the game for turing em into such lame and repitious followers. Well you can guess what they do. If not, take a look at the shackles in civ4 and you start to get a clue
I posted it to the Bug Report forum ( http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=241891 )
At this point, I've pretty much given up and I'm waiting for a new patch. I hope they address my graphics problem.
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