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Ukranian Air Force using precision bombs, leveling Russian command post
Another Russian su-27 going down.
Another Russian su-27 going down.
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[RD] Russia Invades Ukraine: Eight
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If Kaliningrad is the source, it is time to put this area out of service to Putin permanently.More than 1,600 European planes hit by mystery GPS jamming with Russia feared responsible
Planes flying over and around the Baltic Sea in northern Europe have been suffering technical problems caused by jamming since Sunday, with 1614 planes, mostly civilian, reporting problems since then.
Such interference poses serious issues for pilots, as it can force them to contend with fake signals that give false information about the plane’s position in the sky.
A map posted on X by an open-source intelligence account that tracks interference shows incidents widely spread across Poland and southern Sweden.
Most of the incidents appear to be taking place in Polish airspace, OSINT blogs have reported that planes flying in German, Danish, Swedish, Latvian and Lithuanian airspace have suffered interference problems.
Notably, little to no interference appears to be taking place in Belarus, a staunch Russian ally, or Kaliningrad, the Russian province separated from the mainland by sea and land.
A Lithuanian defense official told Newsweek: "Russian armed forces have a wide spectrum of military equipment dedicated for GNSS interference, including jamming and spoofing, at varying distances, duration and intensity.
"Those capabilities are used to create an ‘atmosphere of threat and a sense of helplessness in society", a Polish Defense Ministry official said.
A Lithuanian defense source told the outlet: "Russian armed forces have a wide spectrum of military equipment dedicated for GNSS (Global Navigation Satellite Systems) interference, including jamming and spoofing, at varying distances, duration and intensity."
A leading military expert said that Russia's dominance in the electronics war should be a 'wake-up call' for the UK's military.
More than 1,600 European planes hit by mystery GPS jamming with Russia feared responsible
More than 1,600 planes have been hit by GPS interference in less than two days and it is Russia is behind the interference.www.lbc.co.uk
Verbose
Deity
If "strategic ambiguity" is the new watch-word, nothing should be off the table. Including the possibility of shutting down Kaliningrad. And if Putin really means it and a Russian escalation might mean Russian strikes on airbases inside NATO, to target f-16s slated for Ukranian use, then that NATO no-fly-zone Zelensky asked for early on over Ukraine might start looking like more of a possibility.
IIRC with the episode of the Russian missile flying over Poland, establishing a "no fly zone" near the borders of NATO countries is discussed.
EnglishEdward
Deity
Once upon a time, there was no GPS, and yet pilots managed to fly and land planes.
The provision of weapons to Ukraine using GPS for targeting means that GPS is inevitably going to be attacked.
The provision of weapons to Ukraine using GPS for targeting means that GPS is inevitably going to be attacked.
Verbose
Deity
That's a good start.
Strategic ambiguity will be much helped if NATO first demonstrates to Russia that it does in fact have the men and the machines available to make an extension over Ukraine happen as well, should the NATO countries decide to.
Verbose
Deity
Then everyone flew using huge civilian radar systems (that were pretty much a US monopoly).
Those have been decommissioned a generation ago now, being anything but cost-effective. Meaning, in order to make up the shortfall, military radars need to pick up the slack and provide info to air traffic control.
And of course, should Russia decide to launch a surprise attack, it can expected to coincide with NATO military radars being busy with directing civilian air traffic...
Verbose
Deity
If the means are not at hand, it cannot be done, The Putin has nothing to worry about, for the now.
If the means are at hand otoh.
EnglishEdward
Deity
Meanwhile Russia may be thinking, is NATO is deciding to launch a surprise attack on Kalingrad
It would require massive strikes deep into Russian territory, against radars, SAMs, airfields, command centers, etc.
Verbose
Deity
That's the point of strategic ambiguity.
That has all been a one-sided Russian game of that so far. Russia isn't seeking detente or reconciliation here, it's all intimidation. At some point you have to decide how back-footed you want to make yourself.
Verbose
Deity
And if NATO brings those resources together, it could do it. Which is the point.
Such massive attack would with near 100% certainty provoke tactical nuclear strikes against NATO airbases and other assets where these attacks will be launched from.
Akka
Moody old mage.
Ah yes, the Russians need to jam GPS in Sweden because of Ukrainian using GPS targeting in Ukraine and Southern Russia
Russian missiles in the current context.
Nuclear missiles, more likely. It's a dangerous (and not bright) dream to think Russia would engage "all of Nato" conventionally.
Verbose
Deity
Turkey already did it, and Moscow complained, but that was it.
Why did it take Turkey just 17 seconds to shoot down Russian jet?
Ankara has delivered an incendiary message to Moscow, and while there may be too much at stake for the conflict to spill out of control it also won’t go away
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