Nice work Grishnash, are you continuing this?
... Wow, this is not what I expected! To be frank, I kinda of stopped checking in when it got all blurry... Both Zhaoshuaos and Baal went off topic completely and derailed the topic. The arguments were ridiculous, and I read some stupid things in both their posts, and others...
No one posed a logical discussion or even stuck to the OP. There was a clearly lined out timeline in the OP, what happened there happened. Period. Nothing there was unrealistic or improbable, it was clean and clear and the POD was logical, (unlike what some would say) The Post wasn't stupid, the posters were. (At least some (or a couple) No offence intended, it just sounded smart in my head
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I fact, I don't think much anyone stayed on topic, only Zhaoshusaos made an attempt to post a continuing timeline, and no one even touched on how the world would be in 2010 had things gone like the OP.
You know, when discussing WWII alt histories like this, you might went to put away Patriotism and general bias against Nazi Germany and try to look at things objectively, oh well.
A snapshot. A general look at the future, or present, had the year 1941 unfolded as presented in the OP.
2010.
Nazi Germany stands as one of the worlds superpowers. After the events of 1941, Nazi Germany consolidated it's power in Europe through the blood of hundreds, and fortified their legacy. After Hitler's death in 1953, his successor dropped plans of invasion on the USSR and went on to continue to stabilize the Nazi Power.
However, tensions remained high between Nazi Germany, the UK and the USSR, and other European nations throughout the years. In 1968, a brief conflict broke out between Germany and Sweden. Sweden was backed by the USSR, UK and the US, which strained relations between the Countries. The conflict ended in 1969 with little results other then strained relations.
In 1957, just four years after Hitler's death, the Nazis were the first men in space, however, did not land on the moon and made no attempts in the follow decades.
Under Hitler's rule, Nazi Germany begin down a Green and Vegetarian path, and these things, along with other ideological policies were continued under his Successors, extreme Patriotism underlined the course of the Nation.
The Soviet Union stands as another world Power. Having been able to build up while the rest of the world boiled in flames, the USSR managed to make it through a late 80's depression and entered the 21st century as a mega Communist Power. In 1958, the Soviet's became the second men in space.
The Soviet Union has propped up Soviet/Communist States throughout the world and formed somewhat of a Soviet Bloc that spreads throughout the world a whole.
However, Russia's Communistic ideology has infuriated capitalistic nations throughout the Western world, and a so-called Cold War has sparked between the Capitalist, Nazis, Communist and Fundamentalist in the Middle-East.
In 2001, the Twin Towers in the United States were struck by airplanes and destroyed. The American president declared that Muslim extremist had done at and that the US would strike at the Terrorist in the Middle East, however, the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany stood fast against the United States want to invade the Middle East. This spiked tensions between the world powers, and for the first time in many years, fall-out fear surfaced among the general population.
In 1993 the Soviet Union began a massive anti-corruption campaign within the state, and by 2000 the Premier had declared the campaign a success.
In 2003, the Soviet Union launched and landed the first man on the Moon.
The Japanese narrowly escape death by the Americans in WWII, and manage to maintain their power into the 21st century. By 1945, the Americans had pushed back the Japanese, and were on the advance. In a move to display a show of power, and hopefully shock the Japanese into surrender, the Americans drop a nuclear warhead on Iwo Jima, destroying the island and the Japanese forces there. However, this was responded to by a nuke of their own by the Japanese a month later on US Navy forces. The Japanese Nuclear warhead was rumoured to have been supplied by the Nazis, however, this was rejected by the Nazi government.
The Soviets and Nazis intervened and eventually brokered peace between the two sides.
The Japanese control most of the Pacific, including Australia and New Zealand.
However, their influence is continuously hampered by the Chinese to their west, the Soviets to their north and the Americans to the east.
In 1970, a violent revolt against the Japanese Emperor throws the nation into chaos, by 1973, the revolt is crushed with thousands dead.
Tensions between the Japanese and China remain high, and the Japanese Korean boarder with China is continuously on high alert with armed patrol.
In 1970, the Japanese invent the first Desktop Computer.
In 2001, a new Emperor vows to turn over a new leaf with China but continues the anti-west policies of his predecessors.
The United Kingdoms becomes a reclusive nation, and an increasingly military police state. In 1968, after Troubles spilled over into England, the UK used the situation to invade Ireland. The Isles were united by 1970 and the new UK went on to fortify against any possible threat from the Nazis.
By 2002, the UK has become totalitarian and is ruled by a Ultra-Right-Wing, fascist regime. There is constant surveillance and propaganda and heavy censorship.
Most minorities are classified as enemies of the state. Twelve years earlier, the British government had been on the verge of collapse. The openly fascist right-wing party led a purge to restore order; enemies of the state were kidnapped by the secret police during the night. The country was divided over the loss of freedom until a bioterrorist attack occurred, killing about 80,000 people. The fear generated by the attack allowed the regime to silence opposition and win the next general election by a landslide. A cure for the virus was discovered soon afterward by the government. With the silent consent of the people, the regime turned Britain into a police state, with their leader as High Chancellor. However, the virus had been engineered by the Government as a plot to gain power, through deadly experimentation on "social deviants" and political dissidents at a Detention Centre.
Tensions with the Nazi Regime and the Soviets remain high as the UK government classifies them as 'Evil Regimes against freedom'.
The UK actively tries to thwart Nazi and Soviet notions around the world and works hard to maintain their colonial power.
The United States had been hampered by the Japanese attack that left their forces beat. The Japanese had launched attacks on the American mainland, more then just disrupting the American engine, these attacks greatly hurt the American sense of security.
Those the Americans had manage to push the Japanese back, they were unable to completely destroy them and ended up signing a peace accord with the Japanese that saw the Japanese take Australia and New Zealand.
The aftermath of the War also resulted in Sovereign independence for Hawaii, much to the disdain of the Americans.
In 1961, the Americans became the third nation to reach the stars.
by 1967, the American government began to really crack down on supposed 'enemies of the state' such as Communist, Nazi sympathizers, Asians, Russians, Germans and other minorities such as blacks and Latinos.
By 1970, a Civil-Rights movement had been crushed. Alongside that, the Americans make claims of landing a man on the moon, broadcast around the world. The American rejoice in glee as the leaders among the stars. However, their claims were thwarted by the Nazis and Russians whom show proof of falsification, and that the Americans never made it to the moon, just paid millions to trick the public.
The rejection by the Nazis and Russians barely make it to the American public and what dose is downplayed by the Media, though the 'Moon Landing' quickly fades away from the media or mention.
By 1972, America became increasingly hostile towards unwanteds such as Communists, Nazi sympathizers, Asians, Russians, Germans and other minorities such as blacks and Latinos. And the Ruling Republican party start undermining the multi-party system, in ways such as harassing and punishing opposition parties.
In 1990, after coming back to power from the Democrats, and after much protest and revolts and the threat of rebellion, the Republicans signed a Civli-Rights Act banning discrimination.
By 1996, the Republicans returned to normal politics and ended their brutalizing of opposition parties.
In 2001, America was attacked and the Twin Towers destroyed, the President vowed to get those responsible and declared that he would invade the Middle East to capture and destroy the Terrorist that attacked America and are hidden in the region of Afghanistan and Iraq, however this was stopped by Soviet and Nazi opposition and the threat of a possible common ground between the Soviets and Nazis. Fear spreads that America may return to the politics of the of 70's and might become a police state.
In 2002, the first Labour Union is founded but has little support from the general population and none from the Government or Government Control (So-Call Free) Media.
In 2004, the Americans land their first man on the moon, behind the Russians and Germans and mere months ahead of the Japanese and Chinese.
After the War ended, many colonies in Africa had been ceded to the Germans, this change in power and the sweeping notion of African Nationalism spurred Nationalist movements across Africa. Ethiopia, the only sovereign African State, led this charge of Africanism, and support everything from small movements to open rebellions.
In attempt to thwart Nazi power, Western powers back Ethiopia in supporting rebellions in Germany Colonies, while Germans support rebellions in Western Colonies.
By 1970, the Whole of Africa had broken from colonial rule. The Germans gave up efforts to maintain their hold on Africa, as they sought to consolidate their rule in Europe, and as long as it wasn't under Western Influence they were okay.
The Africanism Nationalism that had swept the continent saw the expulsion of Europeans from the continent and a sense of unity among the newly Independent States, all African states were now led by native Africans whom sought unification and African Power. Ethiopia was looked at as a beacon of African Pride and Sovereignty and over the years would play a key role in keeping the peace among the newly independent nations.
By 1989, states across Africa had broken free from the Cold War grip of Western nations, civil-wars and corruption that had plagued the states were slowly fading, and Cold War Backed wars and division was slowly being nulled, Africa was quickly on the rise.
By 2010, the African Union was on the fast track of Unification, with Ethiopia at it's head, it is said that Federalization is possible within a couple years. Africa was becoming a power on the playing field of the world stage, and many super power were now starting to look at it as a real threat.
2008 saw the first African Union Astronaut land on the Moon to plant the African Flag
2010 looks to be a troubled year, even a crossroads between War, and Life.
The World Is A Funny Place.
