1.0 gram - Ancient Age All-Stars (C3C - Modified Rules)

[Ankka]

The Romans were a little on the upper hand, thats what feeling I got, but the battles were really only one vs one, no big combats. Romans had the Legions, which were far superior to bowmen, though... we'll have to also face them sometime. Difficult, the extra defence makes them hard battlers.

 

[grahamiam]

ok ankka, nice set. what's the size of our military atm?

roster update:

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[6thGenTexan]

I've got it. I'll put our workers to work and remove the iron from Persia.

 

[Ankka]

We have 3 or 4 more workers, IIRC 5 archers, 15 or so warriors.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

I wonder if that will be enough archers. How far have the Persians gotten in hooking up their iron? If they are hooking it up, we'll need to start a war, to keep it from happening.

 

[grahamiam]

Camulodunum and Lugdunum can make 1 every 4T (ie, 5spt). if we can get our other 2(?) barracks towns up to that or 7spt (archer every 3T) we'll be in good shape to take on Persia in the middle of 6gntxn's turns.

we could use a spear or 2 as well to cover the archers. just a thought, but imho, some prebuilds could start for the UU before the 1st turn of the war so that as soon as the city is captured, we can begin pumping out Gallic swordsman.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Good idea with the pre-builds. I'm sure Tex won't have a problem.

 

[6thGenTexan]

I'll probably play tomorrow not tonight.
Pre-building for the UU never crossed my mind. With 15 warriors, what is the upgrade cost vs. gold on hand? Another question is do we want to settle all of our area before our GA to make better use of it? If so, I can take the iron now with archers/spears/warriors and in 20 turns run over Persia with our Gallic Swordmen.

 

[grahamiam]

upgrade cost calc is the delta shields x 3 for C3C so it will be (40-10)x3=90g each. you may have a point regarding holding off on the GA. imho, your plan (take iron and hold of on GA till bigger) is probably the best in the long run, but i'm not sure if it will be possible if persia comes at us with immortals and all we have are archers and spears.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

but i'm not sure if it will be possible if persia comes at us with immortals and all we have are archers and spears.

This would be a very bad situation.

Can you say "Deep Kimshi"?

 

[6thGenTexan]

Stating Status:
Everyone is up Alphabet, Masonry & Polytheism
Alpha in 5 @-7GPT
Cities:
Entremont set to for settler next turn, grow in 2 to save shields.
Richborough clown becomes a taxman and citiy works on a spear.
Berdigala switches to Temple. Barb killing archer will be the MP.
Cataractonium starts a temple. It has a warrior already.
Agedincum and Augustodurum are completely currupt.

1000BC-1 Entremont settler-->settler move people

975BC-2 Camulodunum archer-->worker Gergovia temple-->worker See first immortal (reg). Verulamium switched to spear.

950BC-3 Lugdunum archer-->archer Persians start ToA. Lugdunum is hit by the Black Death and looses a pop point!!!!

925BC-4 Hittites and Rome form an alliance against the Mayans. Camulodunum worker-->worker Persian imortal, archer, warrior headed to the Babylonians.

900BC-5 Hittites bring in the Greeks versus the Mayans. Mursilis then asks us to help out too. He will pay with Masonry and RoP. I cannot turn it down. I'm about to found a city near him that will poach some iron and we can use the free tech. Entremont settler-->settler Verulamium spear-->spear. Wallace is threatened by 2 jav throwers. He runs for now. Alphabet arrives and everyone knows Writing, and Math. 70% is break even for 12 turns to math.

875BC-6 Camulodunum wrker-->archer The Plague has spread to Camulodunum loosing a pop and Burdigali!!! I did not send any one from Lugdunum that direction. William runs to Greek land hoping the Hoplites can protect him.

850BC-7 Alesia archer-->archer Gergovia worker-->barrack The Plague has ended. Lapurdum founded in an ugly spot but we have iron in our borders.....only a long way to connect.

825BC-8 Horses connected. Hammurabi gets 20g to be taken back later. Lugdunum archer-->archer Ratae Coritanorum founded 3 from Entremont and Alesia and starts a worker.

800BC-9 nothing happened

775BC-10 Tolosa founded on western point. I start it on a Curragh. Rush temple in Cataractonium because it will need a specialist. Requires a taxman this turn until temple opens to the public. Temple also rushed in Eboracum.

Archer and spear set to move to cut of iron and seven archers stand ready to move on Bactra. Movement available if you want to attack now or wait a turn or two more. There is a settler pair east of Alesia and tow more norht of Agedincum in the fog. The immortal is somewhere south of Agedincum. The next spear from Verulamium may need to go here.
I want Wallace to pillage a square to make sure Mursilis gets his value from our alliance.
Math in 6 at +3 with 12 in the bank.
Settler N of entremont is heading 2 more north on coastal forest. Next settler can go west 4-5 to the coastal desert square. There is room for one more fishing village in the NW.

Here's the game...

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/gram1_775BC.SAV

 

[grahamiam]

nice set tex imho, you made the right choice to go for the tech and getting us into a war.

looks like i was a little too optimistic regarding the readiness of our troops. one question: if we're going to hook up iron to the west, does it make sense to attack persia with archers and spears or are we better off waiting for a handful of gallic swords? we could use the GA to push persia off the map and establish our hold on the choke. not a bad way to use a GA in a game where we'll be forced to live as a despot for most of the time.

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[Ankka]

Nice job, Texan.


Too bad we got hit by the Plague.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Glad you took those techs for the alliance Tex. Given the cost of these things, we should take one every chance we get.

So X-man has immortals already. stand by for heavy rolls when we go to war. We should have some GS pre-builds going to we can have some fast movers ready to go when the immortals come knocking on our gates.

 

[Ankka]

looks like i was a little too optimistic regarding the readiness of our troops. one question: if we're going to hook up iron to the west, does it make sense to attack persia with archers and spears or are we better off waiting for a handful of gallic swords? we could use the GA to push persia off the map and establish our hold on the choke. not a bad way to use a GA in a game where we'll be forced to live as a despot for most of the time.

But we are already at war with them, or are we? And it will be faster by capturing the city, it is already connected to our network, or can be in 1 turn instead of ten's of turns of waiting when the road would be built through jungle.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

To answer g-man's question, I think if we have some warriors ready for upgrade and some pre-builds going, plus some workers standing by to connect the iron, we'll fair nicely against the immortals. The two-movement of the GS is very nice. We'll be able to have a nice skirmishing demonstration that scout can read about some day.

 

[denyd]

Nice set 6GenTex

I'm thinking along the lines of Ankka & SirBugsy, take Bactra, upgrade 6-8 warriors and start in on Persia. As gold becomes available upgrade more warriors to GS and add them to new builds to take out X-Man. I think he is the #1 threat to victory in this game (Rome #2).

 

[grahamiam]

But we are already at war with them, or are we? And it will be faster by capturing the city, it is already connected to our network, or can be in 1 turn instead of ten's of turns of waiting when the road would be built through jungle.

we are at war with the Maya but preparing for Persia, who seems to be busy attacking someone else atm. therefore, i was thinking that maybe we had the time to get iron connected rather than rushing into war. imho, the gallic sword is much more deadly than an immortal due to the extra movement point but, unfortunately, are 25% more costly so they come to the field slowly.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

How much gold do we have on hand at the moment? GS are going to be expensive to upgrade. A GS costs 40 shields in C3C, a warrior 10. So that's a 30 shield difference => 90G (Edit: g-man already figured that out ) Do we 540G (6 warriors) lying around?

 

[denyd]

Last time I looked, our treasury was under 50 (so no upgrades)

With the exception of Mathematics (for catapults) is the any reason to be researching ourselves. Wouldn't pointy stick science serve us much better at this point.

I propose we turn off science and use the gold to upgrade warriors and use the Gallic Swords to do our research for us.