Ploeperpengel
academic precarity
Sorry can't help you from here(still vacation). You could ask for testers on the Warhammerthread though and provide them with a link and a patch for files missing there.
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Psychic_Llamas
Wizard in the Making
"just"??
does that mean you have almost finished programming all of the psychology then? thats amazing, how the hek do you do it all??? wait, i dont really want to know. Ignorence is bliss eh?
does that mean you have almost finished programming all of the psychology then? thats amazing, how the hek do you do it all??? wait, i dont really want to know. Ignorence is bliss eh?
Psychic_Llamas
Wizard in the Making
well fear and terror can be done as promotions now that you have done most of the other psychology. we could make new peomotion tags that affect the moral of units around them and their own moral etc. just a thought
Psychic_Llamas
Wizard in the Making
well, what if it was a promotion units could not just learn, but they have to be build with it?
i see what you mean though. how else would you be able to incorporate fear without promotions?
i see what you mean though. how else would you be able to incorporate fear without promotions?
Ploeperpengel
academic precarity
I'd vote for magic. We need magic that has fitting gfx-effects and sound.
Edit: like I pmd you maybe better the commerce first.
Edit: like I pmd you maybe better the commerce first.
Ploeperpengel
academic precarity
Ok I added all the tags to xml. Now before I start giving values... what about missionaries and settlers? they don't fight so what effects can those tags have and what values should I give them Olleus? Or should I simply remove the tags for them?
Ploeperpengel
academic precarity
Ok will do this
Psychic_Llamas
Wizard in the Making
cool, looking good guys
(its a pity i cant see what you have achieved first hand olleus, god i need a new computer )
persoanlly, i would like to see magic finishe ASAP, but i will go with whatever you decide
(its a pity i cant see what you have achieved first hand olleus, god i need a new computer
)persoanlly, i would like to see magic finishe ASAP, but i will go with whatever you decide
Ploeperpengel
academic precarity
Got an issue with the icon for unbreakable. It isn't showing in the pedia neither is there an explanation.
Also a request:
I think we need an optional tag for the unitinfos for undead and demons alike that makes if they fail breaktests they don't flee but get additional damage instead!
Also a request:
I think we need an optional tag for the unitinfos for undead and demons alike that makes if they fail breaktests they don't flee but get additional damage instead!
Psychic_Llamas
Wizard in the Making
thats a good idea for the undead
Arexack_heretic
Emperor
yeah cool.
That takes care of the undead are immune to psychology problem. Instead this simulates the instability when pushed back rule.
Don't forget that many undead unit types have no inherent leadership, indeed are just mindless automatons, and will suffer the same instability when no hero/liche/necromancer/vampire etc is controlling them.
That takes care of the undead are immune to psychology problem. Instead this simulates the instability when pushed back rule.
Don't forget that many undead unit types have no inherent leadership, indeed are just mindless automatons, and will suffer the same instability when no hero/liche/necromancer/vampire etc is controlling them.
Arexack_heretic
Emperor
great stuff. can't wait to implement it.
It sounds like it will be easy to modify this to give skaven a morale bonus for every unit in a stack.
Skaven will have a low morale value as a rule, but gain morale for every additional unit in a stack.
It sounds like it will be easy to modify this to give skaven a morale bonus for every unit in a stack.
Skaven will have a low morale value as a rule, but gain morale for every additional unit in a stack.
Psychic_Llamas
Wizard in the Making
BRILLIANT!! great idea AH. could do that for Gobbos also.
Arexack_heretic
Emperor
do gobbos have rank (as in rank&file) bonus like skaven then?
I can't recall.
I can't recall.
Psychic_Llamas
Wizard in the Making
well, its not a specific rule, but its logical isnt it. one gobbo dosnt stand a chance against a dragon. but a whole hoard of gobbos, now at leat ONE of them must get in a good shot every now and then
Ploeperpengel
academic precarity
I still think fleeing units should simply get 1-2 additional hits no fixed damage. This assures all possibilities from being quite healthy to being totally wiped out. That's more interesting than just having minimum life. Undead and Deamons(for this an optional tag please!) should get even 1 more extrahit but not flee.
Ploeperpengel
academic precarity
Is there no way to increase the damage/make the chance of dying higher? Normal units need to differ from undead/deamons as well as Undead need to be different from unbreakables.
Maybe add a chance the winning unit can "pursue" a fleeing unit?
Maybe add a chance the winning unit can "pursue" a fleeing unit?
Ploeperpengel
academic precarity
-If a unit turns to flee. There could be a chance maybe the winning unit can wipe it out based on movement.
If Movement of both units are equal the chance could be 50%. If the winning units movement is higher(example it's a cavalry and the infantry unit flees) the chance could be 75% respective 25% if movement is lower.
This should make it less disireable to have low Leadership.
The "pursue" check could be initiated before the actual random movement of the fleeing unit happens. So that the actual fleeing move only takes place if the winner fails to "pursue".
-Undead could differ from that normal procedure since they never flee they can't be pursued either. So if they fail a Leadershiptest they just get extra damage.
-Unbreakables simply never fail a Leadershiptest.
Feedback to the player could be given something like this:
unit fails breaktest-print: your troops turn to flee
pursue check success- print: but are pursued and destroyed(unit is destroyed)
pursue fail - print: and get away (unit moves in random direction/away from the attacking unit)
Undead fail breaktest- print: the magic that binds your unit to the material plane has been weakened by damage(unit suffers extradamage)
okay that's just to get the idea the printsentences could maybe be more elegant...
If Movement of both units are equal the chance could be 50%. If the winning units movement is higher(example it's a cavalry and the infantry unit flees) the chance could be 75% respective 25% if movement is lower.
This should make it less disireable to have low Leadership.
The "pursue" check could be initiated before the actual random movement of the fleeing unit happens. So that the actual fleeing move only takes place if the winner fails to "pursue".
-Undead could differ from that normal procedure since they never flee they can't be pursued either. So if they fail a Leadershiptest they just get extra damage.
-Unbreakables simply never fail a Leadershiptest.
Feedback to the player could be given something like this:
unit fails breaktest-print: your troops turn to flee
pursue check success- print: but are pursued and destroyed(unit is destroyed)
pursue fail - print: and get away (unit moves in random direction/away from the attacking unit)
Undead fail breaktest- print: the magic that binds your unit to the material plane has been weakened by damage(unit suffers extradamage)
okay that's just to get the idea the printsentences could maybe be more elegant...
Arexack_heretic
Emperor
me likes the pursuit idea.
Would this indicate, that units in a stack always succesfully flee? (as the pursuee cannot enter the occupied tile)
Any ideas for rank&file bonus?
depending on stacked units?
Would this indicate, that units in a stack always succesfully flee? (as the pursuee cannot enter the occupied tile)
Any ideas for rank&file bonus?
depending on stacked units?
Psychic_Llamas
Wizard in the Making
on rank&file bonuses, each unit in a stack could give other units in the stack a bonus to moral, to a limit of say 5 units (so it would not be benefitial to have more than 5 units in a stack) perhaps only make units of the same type give each other moral boosts...
