barbslinger
Gun blast'n shot drinker
Will do tomorrow if Knappagh1 does not show up.
2.0 grams - The Whip and Saddle (C3C)
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barbslinger
Gun blast'n shot drinker
Sorry I couldn't get to this tonight, I'll have to play tomorrow. I'm still stuck at work.
barbslinger
Gun blast'n shot drinker
2.0gram 750BC
Preturn. Oasis is starving to get a horse in 1. Well fix it after the horse pops. We also have to raise the lux tax for it. Bejing was also starving.
[1] 730 Kill a spear with a horse.
IT Lose the horse.
[2] 710 Kill 6 units losing 1. Im moving on the town. We are now strong to Inca.
IT-No losses.
[3] 690 - Retake Tiwakanu with one loss of an archer. We have 4 archers at Olly.
IT No attacks. Iro and Abe sign peace. Aztecs and Abe sign against Maya.
[4] 670 Take Ollytambo and send a load of workers back to us. We can now have Philo and construction for peace. I think I will press on. They have to be gassed and we have units left. A scout horse shows he has crappy lands full of jungle so I change my mind. We can get him in 20. Peace for the tech.
IT A spear and an archer are created. A spear and a horse are ordered up. Sneakville flips to the Iros. Bye-by Iron until we get an expansion.
[5] 650 - Set both towns next to Iron mountain to temple. Found Teitsin on Inca border. Move troops around. I also put oasis on temple to be going to palace for GL prebuild after that. Cant wrestle currency from Iros monopoly on it.
IT Not much.
[6] 630 Still no deal and monopoly not broken.
IT Nada
[7] 610 Still no deal. Tiwakanu finally starves this turn.
IT The Iros declare war. We lose Oasis which had an archer and warrior, our curraugh and 2 slaves.
[8] 590 Not good since we had the bulk of our troops in the north. I bring troops back towards the south and look for alliances. Again not good. No one will align with us except the Inca and they nearly want all our gold.
IT We lose Hangchow and Xinjian and a few archers. Aztecs jump on the wagon to give us a 2 front war. Great!
[9] 570 Kill 2 MWs and a spear. This is looking very grim. I sic the Maya on the Aztecs for 7gpt and 120g.
IT We lose Sugar. This is going downhill fast.
[10] Swap a temple build to horse. The other is due in 2.
Preturn. Oasis is starving to get a horse in 1. Well fix it after the horse pops. We also have to raise the lux tax for it. Bejing was also starving.
[1] 730 Kill a spear with a horse.
IT Lose the horse.
[2] 710 Kill 6 units losing 1. Im moving on the town. We are now strong to Inca.
IT-No losses.
[3] 690 - Retake Tiwakanu with one loss of an archer. We have 4 archers at Olly.
IT No attacks. Iro and Abe sign peace. Aztecs and Abe sign against Maya.
[4] 670 Take Ollytambo and send a load of workers back to us. We can now have Philo and construction for peace. I think I will press on. They have to be gassed and we have units left. A scout horse shows he has crappy lands full of jungle so I change my mind. We can get him in 20. Peace for the tech.
IT A spear and an archer are created. A spear and a horse are ordered up. Sneakville flips to the Iros. Bye-by Iron until we get an expansion.
[5] 650 - Set both towns next to Iron mountain to temple. Found Teitsin on Inca border. Move troops around. I also put oasis on temple to be going to palace for GL prebuild after that. Cant wrestle currency from Iros monopoly on it.
IT Not much.
[6] 630 Still no deal and monopoly not broken.
IT Nada
[7] 610 Still no deal. Tiwakanu finally starves this turn.
IT The Iros declare war. We lose Oasis which had an archer and warrior, our curraugh and 2 slaves.
[8] 590 Not good since we had the bulk of our troops in the north. I bring troops back towards the south and look for alliances. Again not good. No one will align with us except the Inca and they nearly want all our gold.
IT We lose Hangchow and Xinjian and a few archers. Aztecs jump on the wagon to give us a 2 front war. Great!
[9] 570 Kill 2 MWs and a spear. This is looking very grim. I sic the Maya on the Aztecs for 7gpt and 120g.
IT We lose Sugar. This is going downhill fast.
[10] Swap a temple build to horse. The other is due in 2.
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
yikes! looks like those mounted warriors are making mincemeat out of us, not to mention the swordsman. looks tough 
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grahamiam
Knappagh1 ???
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Knappagh1 ???
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SpikeIt
Deity
Gee Barbslinger. I thought the plan was to conquer the Inca and leave us at peace for my turns?! Yikes. I think I soiled my undies. Now go ahead and post the real turn log...
Well...
Okay, I have a new clean pair ready.
Got it. I probably won't be able to play/post until Thursday evening, as an FYI. I'll let you all know if that changes. Company calls. In the mean time, if there are any ideas here besides hold on for dear life, I'm listening...
BTW, nice advances on the Incans. Our capital is pretty exposed at this point, but at least the new cities up north are potentially good sites. If we ever get the chance to improve them that is.
Well...
Okay, I have a new clean pair ready.
Got it. I probably won't be able to play/post until Thursday evening, as an FYI. I'll let you all know if that changes. Company calls. In the mean time, if there are any ideas here besides hold on for dear life, I'm listening...BTW, nice advances on the Incans. Our capital is pretty exposed at this point, but at least the new cities up north are potentially good sites. If we ever get the chance to improve them that is.
lurker's comment:
The situation looks rough, but the fat lady ain't singing yet! I would swap Shanghai over to a vet Spear now and whip the stuffing out of your cities to get troops produced NOW and just play defense for a while without exposing units. For example, the archer outside of horses is likely to die needlessly. If you had used a horse, or Horses was defended by a spearman, you would have been able to let the swordsman attack. I would build a wall in Horses ASAP after the horseman and then just whip horseman as fast as it can accumulate shields. If you guys hold on long enough, you might be able to sue for peace or gas the Iroquois and reclaim your lost lands. That Iron would be really Helpful in your offensives.
Enough speaking of strategy though. What you really need is some luck.
The situation looks rough, but the fat lady ain't singing yet! I would swap Shanghai over to a vet Spear now and whip the stuffing out of your cities to get troops produced NOW and just play defense for a while without exposing units. For example, the archer outside of horses is likely to die needlessly. If you had used a horse, or Horses was defended by a spearman, you would have been able to let the swordsman attack. I would build a wall in Horses ASAP after the horseman and then just whip horseman as fast as it can accumulate shields. If you guys hold on long enough, you might be able to sue for peace or gas the Iroquois and reclaim your lost lands. That Iron would be really Helpful in your offensives.
Enough speaking of strategy though. What you really need is some luck
.
scoutsout
Minstrel Boy
Ouch...not looking good. It would be no small feat if this gets back to me...
barbslinger
Gun blast'n shot drinker
I like Yom's idea of the whipping if shields look right, 20 or less, for one citizen. Look for peace every turn AFTER your offensive. Good luck. I was really liking our chances before the Iros attacked but having a bunch of 1 warrior defense was too much for them to resist.
SpikeIt
Deity
Sounds like a plan. I haven't needed to whip a city much except to play with the feature. Whipping is not really needed at Monarch and below. But it would have come to me. I like Barbslingers advice - settle for peace after my offensive. Now there's encouragement.
Should be able to play tomorrow night...I'll let y'all know if for some reason I can't play it.
Now there's encouragement.Should be able to play tomorrow night...I'll let y'all know if for some reason I can't play it.
SpikeIt
Deity
[0] 550BC
Up lux rate so Ollantaytanbo doesn't riot.
Shanghai switched to spear, due next turn.
Our one archer is destined to die.
IBT
Well, so far so painful.
Aztecs clear our warrior in the far north with a spear.
Aztec warrior/spear stack enters our territory outside Horses.
Iroquois mounted warriors take Beijing!
Horses built horse -> spear
[1] 210BC
Join slave to Ollantaytambo to rush build archer - should have switched to horse first.
Join slave to Tientsin to rush horse.
Move slave to Tiwanaku for rush next turn.
Shanghai built spear, starts on walls.
MM to max production.
Horses is guarded by all defense one.
Decide to attack weakened sword on our horses to at least hopefully eliminate an attacker.
Vet horse attacks 3/4 sword and loses. Ouch. 3 archers defending Horses now. Fortify and pray.
Aren't the Mayans supposed to be helping us out here?
IBT
The dogpile continues... good thing I didn't strike a deal with America last turn to get their wines.
And the Iroquois declare on the Maya.
Aztec warrior attacks Horses and loses. Aztec pillage and other stacks come south.
Horses fends off 2 Iroquois swords, but mounted warrior and a sword finish off Horses. Oh and watch an Iroquois MDI move around.
Ollantaytambo finishes archer (yech!) and starts spear.
Tiensen finishes horse and starts spear.
Oh and the Iroquois start Sun Tzu.
[2] 510BC
Alright. Our loss is probably inevitable, but I'm not thinking here. I try to clear out an Aztec spear and our horse from Shanghai retreats. I move horse from Tientsin down (using 1 move, stupid) and attack. I win, but its redlined and exposed. I can't make moves like this.
MM Tiwanaku so spear builds next turn - don't need to rush.
Shanghai walls our due in 1, 1 turn too late probably.
Oh yeah, no one wants to chat with me.
IBT
Aztec warrior clears out my sacrificial horse.
Iroquois Mounteds attack Shanghai, kill spear, archer, and leaves horse red-lined. Shanghai survives, I think.
Iroquois sword takes some workers and marches them away.
Tiwanaku builds spear -> archer.
Shanghai walls -> spear
Oh yeah, Mayan and Incan galleys float on by.
[3] 490BC
I move workers outside of Tientsin in. Still can use for rushes.
Shanghai is guarded by a redlined horse. I can rush spear at the cost of two citizens, but it likely won't be able to fight anyway as Shanghai is a bit surrounded. Why bother? Oh yeah, its citizens will be grumpy for the Iroquois! That's why. Sell barracks for the cash.
Well, at least the Americans haven't shown up yet!
Okay, let's take a look at our situation.
Shanghai - guarded by a red-lined horse. Oh, but wait, we have walls!
Tiwanaku - guarded by two spear.
Tientsin - guarded by two workers and an archer. But Iroquois haven't found it. Yet.
Ollantaytambo - guarded only by an archer and its ridiculous name.
IBT
Aztecs attack Tiwanaku with warriors, one dies, the other kills a spear. And they stop.
Aztecs take Shanghai with a warrior. Oh goody, the Iroquois mounted warriors still have their moves...
Oh. Aztecs weren't done, promote our spear at Tiwanaku to elite and then take the city.
Mayan galley continues sailing. Where's our backup!
Ollantaytambo falls to a Mounted Warrior...
Tientsen archer fends off a sword, but a redlined Mounted warrior takes the city.
And you know what that means...
Mao the Pathetic.
I did make a couple of
moves but overall, I really don't think much else could have been done. We were just hit with overwhelming forces...
Up lux rate so Ollantaytanbo doesn't riot.
Shanghai switched to spear, due next turn.
Our one archer is destined to die.
IBT
Well, so far so painful.
Aztecs clear our warrior in the far north with a spear.
Aztec warrior/spear stack enters our territory outside Horses.
Iroquois mounted warriors take Beijing!
Horses built horse -> spear
[1] 210BC
Join slave to Ollantaytambo to rush build archer - should have switched to horse first.
Join slave to Tientsin to rush horse.
Move slave to Tiwanaku for rush next turn.
Shanghai built spear, starts on walls.
MM to max production.
Horses is guarded by all defense one.
Decide to attack weakened sword on our horses to at least hopefully eliminate an attacker.
Vet horse attacks 3/4 sword and loses. Ouch. 3 archers defending Horses now. Fortify and pray.
Aren't the Mayans supposed to be helping us out here?
IBT
The dogpile continues... good thing I didn't strike a deal with America last turn to get their wines.
And the Iroquois declare on the Maya.
Aztec warrior attacks Horses and loses. Aztec pillage and other stacks come south.
Horses fends off 2 Iroquois swords, but mounted warrior and a sword finish off Horses. Oh and watch an Iroquois MDI move around.
Ollantaytambo finishes archer (yech!) and starts spear.
Tiensen finishes horse and starts spear.
Oh and the Iroquois start Sun Tzu.
[2] 510BC
Alright. Our loss is probably inevitable, but I'm not thinking here. I try to clear out an Aztec spear and our horse from Shanghai retreats. I move horse from Tientsin down (using 1 move, stupid) and attack. I win, but its redlined and exposed. I can't make moves like this.
MM Tiwanaku so spear builds next turn - don't need to rush.
Shanghai walls our due in 1, 1 turn too late probably.
Oh yeah, no one wants to chat with me.
IBT
Aztec warrior clears out my sacrificial horse.
Iroquois Mounteds attack Shanghai, kill spear, archer, and leaves horse red-lined. Shanghai survives, I think.
Iroquois sword takes some workers and marches them away.
Tiwanaku builds spear -> archer.
Shanghai walls -> spear
Oh yeah, Mayan and Incan galleys float on by.
[3] 490BC
I move workers outside of Tientsin in. Still can use for rushes.
Shanghai is guarded by a redlined horse. I can rush spear at the cost of two citizens, but it likely won't be able to fight anyway as Shanghai is a bit surrounded. Why bother? Oh yeah, its citizens will be grumpy for the Iroquois! That's why. Sell barracks for the cash.
Well, at least the Americans haven't shown up yet!
Okay, let's take a look at our situation.
Shanghai - guarded by a red-lined horse. Oh, but wait, we have walls!
Tiwanaku - guarded by two spear.
Tientsin - guarded by two workers and an archer. But Iroquois haven't found it. Yet.
Ollantaytambo - guarded only by an archer and its ridiculous name.
IBT
Aztecs attack Tiwanaku with warriors, one dies, the other kills a spear. And they stop.
Aztecs take Shanghai with a warrior. Oh goody, the Iroquois mounted warriors still have their moves...
Oh. Aztecs weren't done, promote our spear at Tiwanaku to elite and then take the city.
Mayan galley continues sailing. Where's our backup!
Ollantaytambo falls to a Mounted Warrior...
Tientsen archer fends off a sword, but a redlined Mounted warrior takes the city.
And you know what that means...
Mao the Pathetic.
I did make a couple of
moves but overall, I really don't think much else could have been done. We were just hit with overwhelming forces...
barbslinger
Gun blast'n shot drinker
I had a feeling. Perhaps we can start one now with less water so we can expand easier and on continents.
scoutsout
Minstrel Boy
Well... if there were any moves they probably came from that bonehead who started us off... oop - that was me! 
(gawd I wish I'd mined that hill instead of irrigating that second floodplain....)
moves they probably came from that bonehead who started us off... oop - that was me! (gawd I wish I'd mined that hill instead of irrigating that second floodplain....)
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
well, it's always good to get a poke in the ribs now and then. i think that start was doomed from the beginning scout, a mine here or there wouldn't have changed much. 
ok, i'll generate a new start on Friday if everyone checks in and is interested. i promise not the f-up the map this time
SpikeIt
Deity
You should have seen the replay. There were four land masses. One with one civ. One with 2. One about the same size as ours with 3. And ours with 6! No wonder we were so cramped. Really, we tried our best, but once the Iroquois and Incas crowded us, it was looking to be a long shot. And the Iroquois attack was just well timed.
I'd be up for another if y'all would take this Monarch player along for the ride again. Although having played one demi-god game now
, I may not qualify. 
I'd be up for another if y'all would take this Monarch player along for the ride again. Although having played one demi-god game now
, I may not qualify.
barbslinger
Gun blast'n shot drinker
Please do restart. I think this game would be a blast if we get a chance to get 6-8 decent cities down. I'm looking forward to all the horses and I hope the Iros are around somewhere.
scoutsout
Minstrel Boy
Hey - I'm up for it! 
grahamiam
In debt to Mr. Geisel
ok, it's late here and i need 
i will restart again tomorrow unless someone on the team would like to generate the start for us and avoid mr. magic fingers here
@barbslinger: i'm looking forward to all those horses as well. hopefully we do the whippin' and don't get whipped again
i will restart again tomorrow unless someone on the team would like to generate the start for us and avoid mr. magic fingers here @barbslinger: i'm looking forward to all those horses as well. hopefully we do the whippin' and don't get whipped again
Mistfit
Deity
Please post here where the new start will be I would like to lurk that one as well
