2025 : World Map

[SonicX]

What do you think the world map will look like in 2025, which borders will be redrawn by then, which countries unite, which parts of the world get annexed and which regions become independant ? Let's see how CFC think global issues will affect the political geography in the next 20 years

Personally :

- Palestine will get become fully independant, but with some disputed areas left in the West Bank and Golan
- Belarus will join Russia
- Québec breaks off from Canada
- Flanders and Wallonia split in Belgium, Wallonia joins France (possibly)
- The Ethiopian-Eritrean border will be redrawn after an open war
- India and Pakistan will reach a on Kashmir, India will stop claiming Chinese Kashmir
- Greek and Turkish Cyprus unite

What's not going to happen in the next 20 years

- There will NOT be a Kurdish state
- Western Sahara still won't be recognized
- Kosovo and Montegro won't secede from Serbia
- Chechnya and North-Ingusetia won't secede from Russia
- Abchazia won't secede from Georgia
- Somaliland won't break off from Somalia
- French Guyana will not be independant
- Puerto Rico won't become an official US state

 

[Red Door]

I thought Montenegro had already agreed to split and they are doing it in 2006.
India and Pakistan will NOT agree on Kashmir until the nukes have destroyed each. Its not even plausiable. Cyprus Uniting! Yeah Right, as long as Greece and Turkey are still countries. Belarus joining Russia? I quetion your "world map" in 20 years.

 

[SonicX]

I didn't know about Montenegro, really ... I'll look it up
India and Pakistan are getting closer fast and I believe they'll get over that debate with some pressure from China and the US in 20 years, seems likely enough
And the unification of Cyprus always stumbled upon a Turkish no, last time it suddenly was a Greek no (or "ochi") and a Turkish yes ... I don't see why within 20 years there can't be a double yes if they already switched once. Especially if Turkey continues to try to get into the EU, arrangements can be made.

And Belarus is already partially controlled by the Kremlin, both the Kremlin and Lukashenka have often spoken about unification as the differences between both countries are quite small, albeit that the Belarussian cry for reunficiation is a bit louder. Not that odd at all if you know that 64 % of the Belarussian population prefer Russian over Belarussian as their first language.

But ok, I've highlighted the parts where I'm more certain of.

 

[bhsup]

Well, at some point I predict that the US ambassador to Canada will commit an unforgivable diplomatic faux pas, prompting Canada to burn our Capital to the ground...again. This will provoke a "Manifest Destiny, act II" feeling in America where we decide that...hey...the north looks mighty appealing.

Heh, okay seriously now:

• There will another attempt at a "UAR". It probably won't be any more successful than the first, but I do think they'll try again.
• I agree with you on Peurto Rico, but am going to go further and suggest that they may actually vote for full independence within 25 years. Actually, I think the US should force a decision there on full statehood or independence.
• Ireland and N. Ireland will unite. Er, actually that may not happen in 25 years, but I think it will happen.
• Going out on a big limb here, but I think Korean unification is possible if that cult of personality nutjob Kim Jong Il croaks.
• The Kurile Islands will revert back to Japan.

 

[SonicX]

[quote="Various agencies (feb 05)]Neither Serbia nor Montenegro was supposed to push for complete separation before 2006 under the EU deal. Djukanovic recently warned that Montenegro would hold an independence referendum in February 2006 unless Serbia agreed to dissolve the current union.

Serbia's ultranationalist Radical Party, the largest group in the republic's parliament, flatly rejected the Montenegrin proposal.

"We don't want to accept such an experiment which does not exist in the world," Radical leader Tomislav Nikolic said. "Montenegrins are proposing a mini EU in the Balkans."

Serbia's pro-Western President Boris Tadic said the Montenegrin proposal "should be seriously analyzed," but added that the joint Serbia-Montenegro state has a better chance of one day becoming a full European Union member
[/quote]So, they won't split

 

[Hornblower]

The collapse of the Tasman Sea tunnel forces the last New Zealander leaving for Australia to turn out the lights when they leave.

 

[Che Guava]

- Palestine will get become fully independant, but with some disputed areas left in the West Bank and Golan

Sounds likely. Maybe the capital could be Arafatton?

- Belarus will join Russia

Seems likely, too. How does a country with a nationalist government still want to get annexed by someone else??!! One way or another, thier wish will come true...

- Québec breaks off from Canada

If this happens, you can expect the end of the Dominion of Canada: Newfoundland and Alberta will follow, and what's the point after that? Meanwhile, upin Alaska, the entire state legislature is executed by the US federal government for whispering the word "independant" in session.

In all seriousness, I do think that Canada will stay together: every province has a reason to leave, but we have more in common than we'd ever beleive.

- Flanders and Wallonia split in Belgium, Wallonia joins France (possibly)

The whitehouse reponds to the split with a question: where is wallonia? I guess I'll have to take your word on this one, since I don't know much about the political scene in belgium!

- The Ethiopian-Eritrean border will be redrawn after an open war

...but no-one really notices, since atlas-publishers stopped making political maps of Africa after the 223rd border dispute and country re-naming since 2012...

- India and Pakistan will reach a on Kashmir, India will stop claiming Chinese Kashmir

I'm guessing that was 'agreement on kashmir'? Seems likely (how long could that go on for..?) but I see a it as messy part of the globe for years after...

- Greek and Turkish Cyprus unite

I could see this too, perhaps as a 'shared government' state, like the one that was installed in Lebannon...

the only other major changes I could see would be:

Taiwan/Formosa: Not sure what might happen here, but they've been living in limbo far too long not to do anything. My guess: they give up any claim/tie to mainland China, the PRC gets steamed and calls them a rogue province again, there's a few tense months, and then everything gets back to business...

Saudi Arabia: Can this country really survive the slow disintegration of ther Saudi royalty? I forsee a sudden and quick collapse, followed possibly by the creation of several mid-size nations across the arabian peninsula.

Former Soviet Republics: THe only thing we know is that they won't be the same. Whether some break up, change thier name or unify with thier neighbours, we can be certain that mapmakers will have thier hands full with this part of the world.

 

[De Lorimier]

If this happens, you can expect the end of the Dominion of Canada: Newfoundland and Alberta will follow, and what's the point after that? Meanwhile, upin Alaska, the entire state legislature is executed by the US federal government for whispering the word "independant" in session.

In all seriousness, I do think that Canada will stay together: every province has a reason to leave, but we have more in common than we'd ever beleive.

Love for hockey, check.
Used to snow, check.
Inferiority complex towards the US, check.

What else?

 

[Joeb WK]

May god have mercy on us all.

 

[The Last Conformist]

Belarus will join Russia, or alternatively become the junior partner in a federation with it.

Cyprus will reunite.

Moldavia wil join Rumania, be split between Rumania, Ukraine, and Russia, or just disintegrate.

There will be a Palestinian state, in name if not in reality.

South Sudan will secede. This may or may not be followed by a general disintegration of the rest of the country (Darfur and bits of the east are already in rebellion).

Oh, and Scania will finally be ejected from Sweden, and sinks to the bottom of the Baltic.

 

[De Lorimier]

Why am I not surprized that a BNP supporter has this kind of paranoid crap on his hard drive?

 

[Joeb WK]

Why am I not surprized that a BNP supporter has this kind of paranoid crap on his hard drive?

It was meant to be kind of a joke, but it is kind of the way the world seems to be going.

 

[Che Guava]

Love for hockey, check.
Used to snow, check.
Inferiority complex towards the US, check.

What else?

All the intangeable connections of having been together for for so long. And the fact that deep down we all know we're probably better off together, for better or for worse...

 

[Tee Kay]

The world in 2025 = the world in 2005 + more conflicts (mostly seperatist movements supported by superpowers to stop other countries from becoming superpowers) - technology x religious extremism.

 

[Combat Ingrid]

The world map 2050

 

[The Last Conformist]

Takes a Norrlänning to be that evil.

 

[The Last Conformist]

double post

 

[Combat Ingrid]

Actually, I didn't make the map (it was someone at Apolyton). But yeah, I'm an evil Norrlänning anyway

 

[A_Turkish_Guy]

Greek and Turkish Cyprus unite.....ehehehhe
it is impossible.you have to read history. : )))
and the sweden guy is right.we will never join or get another country.: )))).we are very dangerous for man-kind. : ))))).

 

[pboily]

Love for hockey, check.
Used to snow, check.
Inferiority complex towards the US, check.

What else?

Beer?


Let's throw in a little twist: what happens if the dire global warning/ice age predictions come true?

Does anyone know were one could find a map of the world assuming the water level rises x meters?