(6-31) GPTI Bonuses Scale On All GP Units (Great Engineer, Great Merchant, and Great Scientist Affected)

[Enginseer]

You only get GPTI bonuses if you build them. They don't work if you only captured them.

Very big, an OP human exploit. Capture an AI city, rebuild their GPTIs, and trade/lose it back to them, and their Great People Bulb will be reduced for the rest of their game.

Specialist Type	Current	Proposed
Great Artist	Scales off your Tourism+Golden Age Point Per Turn + Instant Tourism and Golden Age Point multiplied by any current Theming Bonuses.	N/A as theming bonuses require you to control those buildings otherwise, the correct behavior would be to only allow theming bonuses in originally owned cities (which is not nice and compatible with Great Work Swaps).
Great Diplomat	Does not scale at all from Embassies.	N/A as they have no scaling from Embassies.
Great Engineer	Scales off your average production out of every City + instant production multiplied by Manufactories that you build and currently control.	Scales off your average production out of every City + instant production multiplied by Manufactories that you currently control.
Great Merchant	Scales off your average net(or gross if that proposal gets passed) gold per turn out of every City + instant gold scaled by Towns that you build and currently control.	Scales off your average net(or gross if that proposal gets passed) gold per turn out of every City + instant gold scaled by Towns that you currently control.
Great Musician	Scales off your Great Music Hits that you have.	N/A as Great Music can be originally owned by anyone, otherwise the correct behavior would be to only allow scaling off Great Musics off your Great Musicians that they made and no one else (which is not nice and compatible with Great Work Swaps).
Great Scientist	Scales off your average science out of every City + instant science multiplied by Academies that you build and control.	Scales off your average science out of every City + instant science multiplied by Academies that you currently control.
Great Writer	Scales off the number of any Great Works (and Artifacts) you have.	N/A as Great Works can be originally owned by anyone, otherwise the correct behavior is to only allow scaling off Great Works (and Artifacts) that are originally owned by you (which is not nice and compatible with Great Work Swaps).

Complex Proposal: DLL + Database Changes

 

[azum4roll]

Capture an AI city, rebuild their GPTIs, and trade/lose it back to them, and their Great People Bulb will be reduced for the rest of their game.

Same if you capture an AI city and keep it.

I think GEMS bulb should scale off of Towns, Manufactories and Academies you have ever built, without considering current ownership. A good tall buff.

 

[Rekk]

Very big, an OP human exploit. Capture an AI city, rebuild their GPTIs, and trade/lose it back to them, and their Great People Bulb will be reduced for the rest of their game.

...or just keep the city? You've already incurred all the penalties.

This "human exploit" is the *opposite* of OP; it's a bad strategy.

Just no. This mechanic is specifically intended to reward building GPTIs and keeping them. It's not a bonus for conquerers.

 

[adan_eslavo]

I think that would be better for clarity if:

• bonuses scaled like @Enginseer suggested, so with ALL owned improvements
• bonus scaler was a bit lower (because now you will have more of them after conquests); this would mean lower gain early on but I think it is ok; this should be amended;
• GP tooltip mention how many improvements you currently have for the scaler (so f.e. Great Engineer should tell you that you get 500 (4 Manufactories)); this would help newbies understand that Manufactories COUNT towards this value and it is important to have more of them no matter where they are from; this could be a bonus amendment;

Why cannot you benefit from someone's improvements? When I can see that neighbouring city has tons of them, I want to grab it.

It's also close to historical accuracy, when Soviets were moving all Manufactories behind the Ural, so Nazis couldn't benefit from them when conquering their lands. That's how it should look like in game. Do not construct GP improvements in placs where you cannot protect them.

I prefer 6-40 from 6-40a to be honest. But if this is problematic, then the values should be adjusted.

 

[Rekk]

The benefit you get is the tile itself, which is stronger than any other tile.

 

[Enginseer]

I will sponsor this.

 

[Recursive]

Timestamp post to arrange all the threads in a neat order.