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6otM65 After Action

Discussion in 'Civ6 - Game Of The Month' started by leif erikson, Jun 21, 2019.

  1. Eyswein

    Eyswein Chieftain

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    Invalid Game. I got so distracted by getting a settler from the T11 Pantheon before I could production build a settler, I messed around with trying to see whether it was better to hold off on the Pantheon. I really should have created another game to test. When I started playing the 6OTM-65 without restarting this early stuff I already had pre-knowledge of 3 AIs and 4 CSs – I was quitting comparison runs at end of the Ancient Era. I tried to play like I didn’t know anything, but not a fair comparison to those who didn’t have any prior map knowledge.

    T85, Domination Victory

    - How many cities did you settle, or capture?
    3 to start (Capital, Pantheon Settler, Production Settler); I originally planned to chop a 4th city, but didn’t construct any more since my 3rd city had Iron in its 2nd ring – may have been better to get BW first and just settle on top of any found iron. Captured one settler late in the game from barbarians. All other cities were captured – finished with 31 cities.

    - What did you prioritize for research and policies?
    9-AH, 19-Writing, 33- Bronze Working, 43-Iron Working, 44-Currency, 74-Cartography, 83-Castles
    41- State Workforce (Amani recruited), 51-PolPhil, 54-Mil Trad (Equestrian Orders)

    - What did you build for an Army and Navy and how did it change?
    Army – Scout, Slinger; at end Black Armies; all other was levied Warriors/Swordsmen; Navy – None built, one levied Galley
    - Did you use your UU's? Were they useful? Yes, at end got Black Armies, probably saved me 1-2 turns
    - What was your most useful unit? Levied troops in general

    - Was diplomacy useful? How?
    Early niceties for trade; trade on turn met starting with Mongolia since I was already at war when I met the last 4 AI

    - Were City-States helpful? Did you levy any troops? Did any other civ give you a hard time about city-states?

    Of course, its Hungary – far faster victory than otherwise would be possible, especially with new city wall rules; Akkad also made even faster victory possible as Battering Rams were not needed

    Edit to add more on CS since they are so critical for Hungary:
    T11 – Tribal Village +1 Envoy
    Started with one envoy: T3-Jerusalem, T5-Hattusa, T17-Akkad, T51-Yerevan
    Mission to get one envoy: T26-Hong Kong, T66-Yervan (turn met, not mission complete)
    Send envoy to get to 1 envoy: T44-Kumasi (turn met, not mission complete)
    Hattusa and Akkad got to 3 envoys via missions; other on home continent used Amani, then levy before she moved on. After I had the key culture research I needed, I focused on culture research that provided envoys. On the other continent I didn’t start with any envoys. I’d saved 5 envoys. After I went to war with Sweden, I used Diplomatic League on Cahokia to get to 4 envoys & levy (taking Cahokia from Sweden), then got Bologna to 3 envoys & levy (DL allowed 7 envoys with only 5 available). Failed to get any others (except for Cardiff on T85, so wasn’t a factor).

    - Did religion play a role in your game? Negative, except for the T11 pantheon
    - How many Dark Ages and/or Golden Ages did you have? Did you have a strategy? I was hoping to get a GA, but failed (21/25)

    - What effect did Loyalty have on your settling or conquering? How did you mitigate its effects?
    Not a major factor; used a governor to mitigate, had a couple captured cities become free cities, but didn’t care since I was focused on getting to the capitals

    - Did the patch change your game? How do you like the new patch features?
    Love the new patch features – early free settler possible from pantheon (and better in general) and tougher walls (though walls were easy with super-fast Swordsmen and Akkad bonus)
    - Any surprises you ran into, how did you deal with it?
    No path to other continent caused delay

    - What was your strategy, how did you gain your Domination VC?
    Plan
    – Explore, Pump Science, Pump Gold, Levy Troops, Attack, Explore, Attack
    Pump Science – planned 3 early Campuses to speed to later tech; only built one and instead built Comm Hubs in all 3 core cities; I believe Campuses/Libraries first may have been better, especially since I didn’t find Lisbon until T66
    1-Buda (SIP): Scout, Settler, Campus, Monument, Trader, Builder, Builder, Gov Plaza, War Throne, etc. (later Library)
    15-Pecs (4NE): Builder, Monument, Slinger, Comm Hub, etc.
    28-Szek…(7SW): Builder, Monument, Builder, Comm Hub, etc.
    Pump Gold – Trade with AI early and often for gold; Comm Hubs w/ Markets didn’t pan out as well as I thought they would; Comm Hub Investment for more gold
    T56- war India: India was my first target as I was hoping to get there before Varu – they still had them, but only ~3 and only 2 put in a city – 1 after I already had it below 50 health and the other exiting the city to kill a damaged warrior, so a little sacrifice of units made it possible; T46-levy Jerusalem, T51-levy Hong Kong, T56-levy Kumasi
    T59 – war Mali: Kumasi troops mainly headed this way, but helped with some of India
    T65 – war Mongolia: levy Akkad and Yerevan for this sweep
    T69 – war Ottomans: levy Hattusa for this slow roll
    Note: I used levied warriors to explore, starting with one from Jerusalem, to complete continent and try to find a path to the other continent; I would have done with workers if I’d gotten a Monumentality Golden Age
    T65/66 – elimination of Mali/India; T72 – eliminate Mongolia; moved swordsmen to East and West as far as possible while waiting on Cartography
    T74 – discover Cartography - forces move E/W to find other continent(s)
    T77 – war Sweden: Hong Kong troops helped for a few turns until they disappeared, but mainly Kumasi & Cahokia
    T78 – war Zulu: Yerevan, Akkad, Lisbon troops, though I could have better focused capital
    T80 – war Aztec: Cahokia & Bologna; had to defend Bologna; only nation to see Black Army troops
    T85 – capture both Zulu and Aztec capitals

    - Did you enjoy your game? Absolutely!!
     

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  2. kcd_swede

    kcd_swede Jag är Viking!½ GOTM Staff

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    Amazing, Eyswein! Simply amazing. Thanks for the write-up... I usually don't bother since noone will learn from me, but your write-ups are greatly appreciated.:thumbsup:
     
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  3. nufro

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    t152
     

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  4. Gronaz

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    Turn 174 domination victory
    I made a lot mistakes, like taking my time, trying to grow populated and balanced cities as usual, training my own units and neglecting money and science at begining.
    Spoiler :


    But I played a second game, this time using Eyswein's advices and this time I won at turn 111. So I can tell: GOTM teaches a lot!
     

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  5. Tarry

    Tarry Chieftain

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    Turn 185 DV. Back playing again, I lost interest in CIV for a while (the nerfing and nerfing on England really pissed me off), but have regained it

    - How many cities did you settle, or capture?
    Settled 4, razed 2, captured many. I enjoy wiping civ's out rather than just taking their capitals, dead enemies cause no more problems, they have no more envoys to annoy my city-states.

    - What did you prioritize for research and policies?
    bronze, then went for things other than iron, realised too late that I needed iron to upgrade the c-s levies, and didn't realsie I could only upgrade them in friendly terretory - obvious really, why would they be upgradable in non-friendly territory?

    - What did you build for an Army and Navy and how did it change?
    Built a few units early on, scouts, slingers, warriors. Later on I ended up building many troops with faith, mostly musketmen.

    - Did you use your UU's? Were they useful?
    The Black Armies were good, they could keep up with the levies. Huszars were useless, I didn't have any alliances.

    - What was your most useful unit?
    Musketman. The world congress had a vote to give infantry +5 strength through 2 ages, levied troops were all infantry.

    - Was diplomacy useful? How? Did you levy any troops?
    Mostly ignored diplomach, levied almost every c-s except Kumasai and Chakoi

    - Were City-States helpful? Did any other civ give you a hard time about city-states?
    Hattusa was awesome, gave me iron, none of my early cities had iron.

    - Did religion play a role in your game?
    No, I ignored it, built up faith to buy great people and after building the chapel in my government plaze I used that pile of stored faith to buy armies and troops in my conquered cities keeping the momentum up.

    - What was your strategy, how did you gain your Domination VC?
    I ground them down. But I was too slow in starting the conquest, too slow in getting levied troops and iron working.
    Ottomans, first then Mongols next. India was a nightmare to get through the mountains, I was bogged down in them for ages with what felt like armies upon armies of varu. I conquered my home continent, wiping everyone out,
    About T100 ish I finally got Cartography and set off in search of the new world. Sweden, and aztecks ground down and finally the zulus who had more troops that I could count with xbow men camped in every hex unless it had spearmen in it.

    - How many Dark Ages and/or Golden Ages did you have? Did you have a strategy?
    2 normal ages to start , missed golden ages by 1-2 points each time. then golden for the rest

    - What effect did Loyalty have on your settling or conquering? How did you mitigate its effects?
    wiped a couple of cities that I knew I wouldn't be able to keep. Governers and policies kept the initial conquests until I could add more conquests to stabalize.

    - Did the patch change your game? How do you like the new patch features?
    lots of things felt different, walls weren't a problem as I brought rams - but they were so slow my levies outpaced them constant.y. Took ages to find and suze akkad, after that walls were easy, Again, I feel I was way too slow and not focused enough/

    - Any surprises you ran into, how did you deal with it?
    Varu are really really tough. And when in cities are a complete bugger to kill/capture.

    - Did you enjoy your game?
    very much so.
     
  6. leif erikson

    leif erikson Game of the Month Fanatic Administrator Supporter GOTM Staff

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