(8-16) 4UC France

[pineappledan]

This is a thread for discussing the addition of 2 more unique components to the French civilization.

Spoiler Full kit with 4UC changes :

Note, the most recent congress added an extra to all cities per 10 military units on the UA

Spoiler Description of new components and changes to existing kit, differences from base component are underlined: :

UM - SPAD S.VII (replaces Triplane):

available at Flight​

800 Production Cost​

no Unit Supply​

Does not Require Oil​

45 RCS, 6 attack range, 7 Intercept Range​

"Air Logistics" (can attack twice per turn)​

UB - Salon (replaces Museum):

available at Architecture​

650 Production Cost​

4 Gold Maintenance​

+3Science, +3 Culture, and +3Tourism​

+1 Culture and Tourism for every 4 Citizens in the City​

Great Works gain +1Tourism​

-1 unhappiness from Boredom​

+5 when themed​

+3Science and +10%Great Person Generation for each active Theming Bonus in the City.​

 

[pineappledan]

Reserved

 

[TameFroggy]

In the description you have the Salon as replacing the Gallery (and also doesn't mention its lack of a prerequisite)

Maybe the Salon could be moved to Scientific Theory? It's only 2 techs behind Archaeology, but it makes it so that both buildings aren't unlocked at the same tech, and fits better with the Enlightenment imo

 

[pineappledan]

Oh shoot that should be Museum in the description

 

[hokath]

Maybe it should replace the Gallery though

Spoiler :

 

[pineappledan]

The theming bonuses are key to the UB. If it were a gallery it would have to have an art/artifact theme, the same as the later museum.

 

[hokath]

Ah right you would have to give it another slot.

 

[pineappledan]

Yeh, you’d basically make a unique gallery whose ability is that it is a museum.

 

[xinkule]

Esprit de quipe back please. The current gaming experience is not comfortable for me as a FRplayer.

 

[Stalker0]

With such a special theming arrangement, this feels like it should be a UNW more than a regular building.

I am worried about the SPAD just because I find the lack of oil very oppressive (its the autocracy power but way earlier). Its also a mouthful to say!

 

[pineappledan]

Overall grade: A
Straight A student. France’s kit is vastly improved by 4UC, and has some room outside of Napoleon’s personality to showcase more French eras and movements. This is the perfect example of how 4UC allows us to cover more ground than 3 component slots will allow.

SPAD
Theme - A. There are dozens of possible French UUs in the nation’s long and bellicose history, but there are only a handful of nations that could credibly have a unique WW1 era fighter. The best candidate for such a unit is France by a wide margin. France pioneered many of the military applications of flying vehicles and was the first nation to ever have an air force separate from the army and navy.
Mechanics - A. The unit is fairly straightforward. No oil requirement, extended intercept range, and can attack 2 times per turn. This represents the unmatched speed of the SPAD fighters, which had the most powerful engines and top speed of any WW1-era fighter. The SR-free ability allows France to spam these supply-free units, which stacks with the French UA's bonus for owning military units
Uniqueness - A. It’s the only UU in an entire domain.

Salon
Theme - A. The French Salon is an iconic part of French renaissance history.
Mechanics - A. The bonus per theme in the city is a unique incentive that incentivizes stacking as many themes into 1 city as possible. A much more organic and flexible version of the Vanilla UA’s incentive to put every theme in the capital.
Uniqueness - A. Good uniqueness. Museum replacement is unique. All of the different combinations of GW you could set in a museum have unique names. The building is full of flavor and careful consideration.

 

[azum4roll]

Does this have the same theming requirements as Museum now?

Does it really have to be so much earlier? (A whole era!)

 

[pineappledan]

Does this have the same theming requirements as Museum now?

It covers all the same bases as the Museum, but technically there are 12 different ways to theme the Museum while there are only 9 ways to theme the salon

Does it really have to be so much earlier? (A whole era!)

Theme - A. The French Salon is an iconic part of French renaissance history.

Yeah I think it does.

 

[hokath]

I think I'm going to counterpropose it.

The Archaeologist text being earlier than their unlock is a bit janky to me.

 

[Cebrudras]

Couldn't we just add a 'once Archeology is researched' to that text?

 

[hokath]

MAGI:
We need a Building_YieldFromNumThemesLocal
and a Building_LocalThemesGreatPersonPersonRateModifier

 

[pineappledan]

and a Building_LocalThemesGreatPersonPersonRateModifier

This would probably be easier/better implemented as a column in the buildings table

 

[axatin]

I can sponsor the DLL additions.

 

[Recursive]

Timestamp post to arrange all the threads in a neat order.