Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
EDIT Whoops - was trying to edit my previous post, and it somehow turned into a "send reply." not save changes.
sorry!
sorry!
A Civ3Theo Game? Sacrifice Here!
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Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
Well, we can't do MP quite yet, much as I'd like to pretend. Yet, I agree; I'd like to see if the system works so that we CAN have a confident, working Aztec or similar team when the PTW MP demo games get started. So I will bump up one more to see who's interested, and then start a new thread to get the game going mid next week.
Obviously, the central decisions we have to make are (a) who is our Deity, and (b) who is the first Chief Speaker. As I think I said earlier, I'm happy to put myself up as the High Priest for the first thousand years or so to get the system working, and then if someone else wants the role, I'm happy to be demoted to be a humble Cacique until my time comes along... No delusions of power here
- and I'd prefer someone experienced with the game logistics (as opposed to the government logistics) of the demogame start as the Chief Speaker anyhow.R.III
Shaitan
der Besucher
I'd be happy to work in any of the positions.
Shaitan
der Besucher
As I'm now a mod for the Demo game I'm going to have to withdraw my offer to hold office. I'll still support the Theo game, of course, but will have to limit my participation to that of a citizen.
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
We need a god before anything else. I'll start pming likely candidates tonight.
R.III
R.III
Shaitan
der Besucher
I've talked with eyrei and we'd like to help by volunteering to mod the Theocracy forum as well as request the forum from Thunderfall. Does this fit with your start-up plans, Richard?
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
"My" plans?
I'm in politics. I was taught never to say "I," especially when you're going to have to depend on other people to get half the work done.
Sure. Perfect. I regard this as a group thing, since I obviously am not as versed on the painful machinations of a CivDemo game as I could be.
My first candidate for God has not yet replied; I will move on to number two by midday today.
R.III
I'm in politics. I was taught never to say "I," especially when you're going to have to depend on other people to get half the work done.
Sure. Perfect. I regard this as a group thing, since I obviously am not as versed on the painful machinations of a CivDemo game as I could be.
My first candidate for God has not yet replied; I will move on to number two by midday today.
R.III
Shaitan
der Besucher
Yes, "you". It's your brainchild so you will always be held responsible for it. 
I have requested the forum. I'll let you know as soon as I hear back from Thunderfall.
I have requested the forum. I'll let you know as soon as I hear back from Thunderfall.
Shaitan
der Besucher
We won't be given a dedicated forum. 
We need to figure out where our home will be. I believe that the Stories forum is the most appropriate place as that used to house the Demo games as well.
We need to figure out where our home will be. I believe that the Stories forum is the most appropriate place as that used to house the Demo games as well.
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
Good! Great! Thanks, Chieftess, your experience is obviously valuable here...
Gimme 24 hours - I think I've found our Huitzilopotchli, and we can move ahead quickly from there.
Sad to see we can't get a separate spot; we'd only need four or so sections at most...
Pity.
R.III
Gimme 24 hours - I think I've found our Huitzilopotchli, and we can move ahead quickly from there.
Sad to see we can't get a separate spot; we'd only need four or so sections at most...
Pity.
R.III
Ehecatl Atzin
Lore Master
Cool! I knew this was happening, but hadn't had the time to comment. Ok, I'd lke to be god!! LOL, well, Ehecatl is a manifestation of Quetzalcoatl, so...
Oh, instead of using the word cacique, use Tlatoani and the leader is called Huey Tlatoani. That would be the one in Tenochtitlan. Historically, when the tlatoani died, his brother would take the role, he wasn't elected by the people. In case the brother wasn't considered to be well suited for the job, a council would elect the next tlatoani, the Huey Tlatoani accepted or rejected the tlatoque (plural of tlatoani) of other cities.
Next in line are the tetecuhtin (plural for tecuhtli "lord"). This title was given as a reward for warriors and administrators that excelled in their job. They had lands and slaves.
Next are the macehualtin (singular: macehualli) they are commoners, not slaves, that recieved the title of, either, noble-falcon or noble-tiger and did not pay tribute. They could ascend the social ladder by giving very fancy parties and sacrificing slaves to a certain God or Godess.
Those are the "free" groups of society, the rest are artistans, traders, slaves, "the help", entertainers.
Sacrifices didn't happen just beacuse, tenochtlas went to war specifically to get prisioners and sacrifice them, slaves could be sacrificed when someone wanted to ascend the social ladder and when a temple was inagurated.
Well, that out of the way..when do the sacrifices start?
Ehecatl Atzin
Oh, instead of using the word cacique, use Tlatoani and the leader is called Huey Tlatoani. That would be the one in Tenochtitlan. Historically, when the tlatoani died, his brother would take the role, he wasn't elected by the people. In case the brother wasn't considered to be well suited for the job, a council would elect the next tlatoani, the Huey Tlatoani accepted or rejected the tlatoque (plural of tlatoani) of other cities.
Next in line are the tetecuhtin (plural for tecuhtli "lord"). This title was given as a reward for warriors and administrators that excelled in their job. They had lands and slaves.
Next are the macehualtin (singular: macehualli) they are commoners, not slaves, that recieved the title of, either, noble-falcon or noble-tiger and did not pay tribute. They could ascend the social ladder by giving very fancy parties and sacrificing slaves to a certain God or Godess.
Those are the "free" groups of society, the rest are artistans, traders, slaves, "the help", entertainers.
Sacrifices didn't happen just beacuse, tenochtlas went to war specifically to get prisioners and sacrifice them, slaves could be sacrificed when someone wanted to ascend the social ladder and when a temple was inagurated.
Well, that out of the way..when do the sacrifices start?
Ehecatl Atzin
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
Damn, had a big post in reply and it got deleted by accident.
Short version:
1) I agree with most of what you said; but I think you will find the draft government model reflected this. Since there can't really be familial succession, I subbed in the vote of city leaders (caciques, etc.) as an alternative
2) I was going to use the various aztec names, but was too lazy to go looking when you wrote in. Great.
3) My god fell through. DO YOU WANT THE JOB? If you do, we can get started very quickly.
Speak now or forever hold Your peace...!
R.III
Short version:
1) I agree with most of what you said; but I think you will find the draft government model reflected this. Since there can't really be familial succession, I subbed in the vote of city leaders (caciques, etc.) as an alternative
2) I was going to use the various aztec names, but was too lazy to go looking when you wrote in. Great.
3) My god fell through. DO YOU WANT THE JOB? If you do, we can get started very quickly.
Speak now or forever hold Your peace...!
R.III
Ehecatl Atzin
Lore Master
Cool! I accept! oh, but Quetzalcoatl, didn't accept human sacrifice, maybe Chieftess could be a blood thirsty Godess, like Coatlicue, the mother of Huitzilopochtli...
Ehecatl Atzin
Ehecatl Atzin
Ehecatl Atzin
Lore Master
You know, I was doing some reading and it appears that Quetzalcoatl is the dual manifestation of Tezcatlipoca. Huitzilopochtli is also a manifestation of Tezcatlipoca, so I do accept sacrfices!! Tlaloc is also one of the main gods of the aztecs and since my second name is Atzin (little or sacred water) I can be both gods, since Tlaloc is the god of water (among other things). Still, having Coatlicue or Tonantzin played by Chieftess would be pretty cool!
Oh, about the city mayors, tlatoque, voting to elect the Huey Tlatoani...since the Huey tlatoani decides wether to keep or remove the tlatoque, it seems inadequate to have to tlatoque elect the huey tlatoani. The best bet would be a council, known as tlatocan, of wise men: sorcerers, priests and the mayor of the capital, known as cihuacuatl.
PS. I have all the aztec names for the priests, cabinet members, cabinet offices, etc. If you want them I can post them here as one list.
Ehecatl Atzin
Tlaloc is also one of the main gods of the aztecs and since my second name is Atzin (little or sacred water) I can be both gods, since Tlaloc is the god of water (among other things). Still, having Coatlicue or Tonantzin played by Chieftess would be pretty cool!Oh, about the city mayors, tlatoque, voting to elect the Huey Tlatoani...since the Huey tlatoani decides wether to keep or remove the tlatoque, it seems inadequate to have to tlatoque elect the huey tlatoani. The best bet would be a council, known as tlatocan, of wise men: sorcerers, priests and the mayor of the capital, known as cihuacuatl.
PS. I have all the aztec names for the priests, cabinet members, cabinet offices, etc. If you want them I can post them here as one list.
Ehecatl Atzin
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