A funny little civ called Persia

haggi

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Just recently graduated to Monarch diff and came across an unusual occurence. Playing on large map, large archipelago continents and 9 cannon fodder nations, I mean other civs. I am on a continent with Persia and its now 170BC and Persia is yet to build a second city. Whilst thats good for my civ (it will no doubt delay the eventual collapse of my civ to Inca), can anyone explain why Persia isnt building, I mean, they cant all be celebrating Mr Husseins capture, can they? The Persian city is bordered by hills and mountains on one side with grassland on its other tiles.
 
Barbarians are roaming, persia has not built any wonders and to date have built only barracks and granary and have 5-6 spearmen and the king in their city. I have retired game to reveal map and all the other civ's are building as you would expect. Their city pop. is at 2 and its now 300AD
 
What's their terrian like? We can't really help unless you provide a save. For all we know, they could be stuck on tundra, or have the best terrain, but have 3 barb camps scaring them.
 
Originally posted by haggi
Their city pop. is at 2 and its now 300AD

you know that a settler coast 2 inhabitants of the city in which it was built?

when the city pop. is only 2, than the persians are not able to bulid settlers without destroying their capital.

so, they never will be bigger than a one-city-state.

why don't you capture persepolis?

than your people will celebrate the capture of saddam, ehm, i mean...
 
Originally posted by McBeer


you know that a settler coast 2 inhabitants of the city in which it was built?

when the city pop. is only 2, than the persians are not able to bulid settlers without destroying their capital.

so, they never will be bigger than a one-city-state.

why don't you capture persepolis?

than your people will celebrate the capture of saddam, ehm, i mean...

Then that would be Babylon. Although, Baghdad is in the Arabia city list... but that's another topic for another thread. :) (and probably another forum, too).
 
I have noticed that the AI seems to be slower at expanding at first. I played a game on regent and I had 4 cities before my neighbors started expanding. And they had pretty good land too.
 
Well Mts dont provide food and hils not enough maybe thats y.
 
Originally posted by haggi
Barbarians are roaming, persia has not built any wonders and to date have built only barracks and granary and have 5-6 spearmen and the king in their city.

I would suspect if it isn;t growth, then barbs are say within the city radius but across a channel of water, holing everyone into siege mode. The reason I highlighted the king is that if its not growth or barbs, then they are making more units to protect the king, and have too few sheilds to do it quickly so they can get on with expansion.
 
you may be right hygro, there was a large number of spearmen in the city. The persians did finally start building a settler but of course it was far too late for them.

For future reference, how do i grab a screen shot to make things a little easier to explain?
 
You can use printscreen, and save it as a .jpg file, then upload it like the way I showed you in the pm I sent you.
 
When you play with regicide mode ON, it is true that the AI's will first build a couple of spears to defend the king unit. Only after a certain while they will build settlers. Regicide is not meant for single player games and the AI can't coop with it. I advise you to uncheck this victory type ;)
 
I've had the same experence too, its me and 2 othe civs, Cartage and Portugal. Cartage is growing and Portugal just build its one city. we are on a island, im on the bottom, Cartage is in the middle and Portugal is on top and barbarians are roamng. I sent a unit up there too check to see whats going on. they had no barbarians and they had a archer and spearmen roaming the country side.


I wonder what it could be, cause its too late for them theres no room.
 
Originally posted by Chieftess


Then that would be Babylon. Although, Baghdad is in the Arabia city list... but that's another topic for another thread. :) (and probably another forum, too).


i know, but i only continued haggi's joke

and baghdad wasn't the only town with celebrating people after arresting saddam hussein
 
just trying to keep the masses happy McB

this was the city i was originally referring to and thanks to some timely advice from Chieftess, here it is in all its glory

obviously, some of the local troglodytes yearn for the old days, NO SOUP FOR YOU!

your next poms
 

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Well, a full sized screenshot would've helped (to see the year, etc.), and a game save... (I told you how to use the file upload. :) There's about 5 different threads scattered about the forum on that topic...). Anyway, it looks like you had victory points on. I never really play with this victory condition, but I can see where the AI might defend themselves. Also, I can't tell if there's a king unit, since you already destroyed the civ... Is that on the turn you destroyed Persia? From the city size (if you say they only had one city), then that's some time into the future. It doesn't really show their starting location. Where there a lot of forest? That's a possibility of why they might've expanded slowly. That, and a combo of the VP setting - but, I don't see a save, or an earlier screenshot of Persia before you conquered them... Also, turn the grids on. It's hard to tell if that cattle is inside the city radius or not. :)
 
Well its better than no pic at all (small steps b 4 we can walk), when i attached the file it was too large so i trimmed the edges. That was persia's start location and their only city. I finished off the Persian civ many turns back but was unsure how to grab the pic so dont have the initial shots, anyway, I know how to now. As per my initial email, the mts were on one side and the grassland on the rest, all i have changed are adding roads/rail & mines. I might refrain from VP's in the future.
 
Haggi, take the next step :)

Chieftess is talking about the file upload feature, not about the attachment feature (file size limit just 100k here, as you probably noticed).;)
 
Originally posted by haggi
yes, the 100k was the problem, she'll b apples next time round:cool:

If you had looked at the link, you would have seen the image showing you where the file upload link was. :)
 
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