A.I. states Afraid and wants friendship?

[zarakand]

I came across the weirdest thing in a Civ game today, where Babylon came to me stating it was afraid of me and wanted to be friends. Was this always in the game or something thats new with the patch?

I also later had England state they were emotionless instead of neutral towards me, which is something I had not seen before. Has anyone else come across these attitudes?

The ones I've seen before were: Friendly, Neutral, Guarded, Hostile.

 

[Bob_]

Well its certainly unusual but when I m afraid its definately better for me if the guy I m afraid of is friends and not enemies with me

 

[Seikninkuru]

This has been happening to me a lot lately. In 3 of my past games I've had at least one civ, generally a neighbor, who is afraid.

I've generally played nice and not gone after them, I think it is the AI's response to strong tech, economy, military, and culture combined when they want your land. They're afraid you'll take it, but are too nervous to become openly hostile or guarded.


A few turns later they change their stance.

 

[markusbeutel]

It was in the game since it came out. All the AI's have something called "Approach Types" and a specific affinity for each one. Neutral, Hostile, Friendly, Guarded, and Afraid are the five types and based on your actions with the AI and their specific Flavors, when you talk to him he'll have one of these statuses. The "Afraid" approach type is purely based on your Military Strength being stronger than his. On top of Flavors and Approach types there's a randomization percent, (I think I remember it being 15% but I''ll have to double-check), that always affects Diplomacy. It plays a part in how the AI is sometimes "mysterious," which I believe is what the Dev's stated they were going for initially in regards to Diplomacy. When you first meet an AI, based on which affinity is programmed to be the strongest for him + the random number = his initial status. This can change by the next turn if you do something to set him off that turn, like building a settlement. They may have increased the percentages for the AI affinities so you see less "Hostile" and more "Guarded" and "Afraid" to mix things up but that's just speculation on my part.

 

[TPQ]

I have had Monty "afraid" in one game a couple of patches ago and most recently yesterday on the 217 patch, Hiawatha came to me saying how much greater a leader I was than him and his status said "afraid" and the mouse-over info said "they are afraid of our great might".

I don't remember what troops I had exactly with the Monty example, but yesterday I had 8 swordsmen, 2 warriors and 2 archers and Hiawatha had around 8 warriors, but no access to iron. I was quite close to him on the same landmass and quite a few techs ahead.

 

[Dentalfury]

I saw this as well recently after the patch but never before. Makes perfect sense though, when I have a clear tech/military/numbers advantage over the AI why wouldn't he try to suck up and try to keep me at the negotiating table instead of the on battlefield?

I remember multiple instances when I was slowly grinding the AI(Siam) down and he was so biligerent that he refused my offers of peace repeatedly (I was caught in a 8 front war). Then after he lost about 4 cities, 10-20 ten turns passed and he magically offered me his entire 20 city empire, all his gold/gtp and luxuries if I only spared his capital.

I would hope that AI in future patches will become a little more pragmatic and try to make small wars instead wars of annihilation and would sue for peace early instead of late.

 

[Tapewormlondon]

This was deffo in before the patch. I had it in my last game prior to the patch playing as Askia - person afraid was Monty......asking me to have mercy on little empires such as himself or other such balls.

So I wiped him off the map to end his suffering!!

 

[forty2j]

I've seen this once before.. this is the status were you can successfully Demand something.

 

[blac]

What sorta stuff could you demand out of them if they have this status?

 

[ShowOfForce]

What sorta stuff could you demand out of them if they have this status?

I had china over a barrel and was testing the limits, they gave me anything I asked for except the keys to a city. "I will do what it takes to keep the peace." -Sad Wu