a lightweight discussion of WW2 aerial ops and the like

Status
Not open for further replies.
 
and yes , the funny things are not limited to books , newspapers can be equally hilarious , too . Take this interview with the new American Consul in Istanbul , a woman as usual . She has worked with Condi and Rodham , talks good about both . The former knew when to step back , agreed the spineless jerk could inspire a breath of life to the the American reputation , so throughly tarnished by the glory of Neo-con take on life . The latter , ı know thanks to the documentaries run endlessly or something was a shining star , a comer . And ah yes , she has been known to people whom you don't know , from the days she worked to bring down Nixon , as a murderous ___ . If she had not irritated powers that be of Washington and do such good work to impeach an American President , distracting him so much that in his reign the demonseed stole land from the Christendom , she would have won that exam in and stayed in Washington , burning herself out by the 1980s . We naturally will not be thanked at all for landing on Cyprus that "finally" saw her banished to this Arkansa or something in the oft qouted wings of the butterfly flapping on the other side world to create a tornado this side . Sharpening her to utter sharpness , all those years in the bush instead of the proper life in the D.C. . ı hear there's not much to commend the South , except a belle or two , everybody must be longing to escape ... And of course Condi declared so many borders of so many countries would change and Rodham paid 5 or 10 millions US dollars to seperatists and the like in Turkey and elsewhere to use the web with VPN and proxies and the like . We have no need to hear the Consul on how America likes this country and stuff . The only good Turk is dead one is quite acceptable , instead of non-stop telling of lies . Everybody actually knows the total destruction of the Republic is but a stepping stone to the total destruction of anything remotely Turkish ; the Consul with a successful career as a woman is already silent on the only reported achievement of being in the same time zone with our Arab Brothers , right ? That's , people have to go to work in the dark and many women are utterly scared of desolate streets ... Though no newspaper reports of people deciding to stay at home , yet . How can you liberate women with stuff , Christianity included , if they are already liberated , right ?

americans are liberators , man .

yet another magazine article , from one that specializes on military history , with some Ottoman dude on the cover , the caption reading "the face of evil?" . Yet another new thing for yours idiotly . "Massacre at Batak exposes Ottoman Barbarism" is kinda cool because for all the cool sentences the author has on those pages , it certainly was not a mere footnote for my late father . Unknown it might be for the Americans , but it looks like the cornerstone of the Bulgarian uprising of 1876 , hence their liberation by their big brother , the Russians . My mother remembers personally insulted by an apparatchik ; bad luck of coming to work early on some anniversary of some Bulgarian victory and party people working the non-party people about the good things that come with cutting Turks . My late father never got into trouble with Police in either of two countries he ever was in , except the time the Bulgarian Police beat him throughly when he was a seeking a visa from the Turkish Consulate and would never talk about the wars that happened before him anyhow . But he must be so filled with the Ottoman stuff of Batak he would always and only speak of how it happened ... He was also a fan of mehter music , an affection ı will find more , much more real , than anybody banging on the drums and walk the walk of it on any celebration of the Republic . It might be heard a lot during the march of armoured corps on the way to Western Europe , do not get offended too much ...

this Starfleet Admiral will not be involved in anything that claims it didn't happen but would really like to see the opinion of the author who says

Despite containing all the elements of present-day headline stories—political repression, religious persecution, crimes against humanity, etc.—the Batak Massacre remains almost unheard .



whether it's true that nothing would have happened but for the repeated disappearance of soldiers or stuff sent to the town to buy bread and never coming back . Supposedly their otherwise burned remains were found in the ovens of the bakery and supposedly this is the reason of what happened .

this is really important stuff , you know . If Turks are responsible of burning holy places with people in them , and mind you my late father would never tell the church was burned with women and children inside , then the canard of how Bulgarians burned mosques with entire populations of villages in them . You know , we Turks are animals and deserve whatever happens to us . Even Turkish historians , in light the New Turkey where everything bad is the fault of the Republic which was a reward for the traitors who lost the Balkan Wars and the Great War and the War of Liberation was but a sham , seemingly want to avoid "controversy" .


Following the recovery of Eastern Thrace in the brief Second Balkan War, new testimonies were revealed and published in gruesome detail. Thus, for example, the daily Tanin (The Echo) reported on a massacre that took place in the village of S¸ irva, not far from Edirne. In this village, inhabited prior to the war by 320 people, all the buildings were destroyed; about 100 women and children were crammed in the local mosque and gassed by the Bulgarians (cami derununda tıkılarak ve ¨uzerlerine gaz dökülerek).


not the invention of the gas chamber , but obviously a yet another revenge of Batak , though perhaps "gassed" also means burned ?

when ı stopped here last night it was only because it was late and was tired . And honestly not because there's yet another great discovery by the Police . You know , they were all with the Congregation and somehow still have access ... Latest breakthrough ? Which like gave a spasm of laughter to yours idiotly ? Discovery of some sermon or something where the spiritual leader declares he will marry in his 80s , and take a second wife in his 90s ? Lefties are staring unbelievably or something as they are reading the text , thinking this is some attack against the guy's reputation . ı know ı promised not to make personalized attacks again , but you know this is facts and stuff . You see , the Congregation donated fortunes to Mrs Rodham's campaign but being the political geniuses they are , they have seen the footsteps of Drumpf . Who has the extradiction of the spiritual leader as a campaign pledge and all . And thinking all the stuff was due to intent and not being an 101% idiot , he wants things to stay the same and some assistance . If it holds out for the entirity of Drumpf's occupancy of Whitey Homey , there will be the marriage and the lucky one will be Miss Universe . Check the list of the spiritual leader's titles to get what this means . And she will also have a "kuma" in due course , you know , to do the dishes and stuff when she gets old ...
 
well , with so many BSS threads in the Off-Topic one gets confused where to rant . So gotta be here , with my entire diplomatic might amassed in one place ...


it seems what's around in CFC is a somewhat weak argument why Barack spineless jerk Obama will actually be recorded in history as the father of heart-eaters , in Arabic , as we will write the history .

take the bloodily brilliant example of Syria . A colonial power arrives and kicks the hell of the elites in 1920s . The said elites had either solidly stood with the Ottomans over centuries or had betrayed it for a kingdom and the French had froggily decreed there would be nothing of the sort . To stay someplace you need co-operation of at least some of the locals and the French take Alawites , by then victims of centuries or something of bloody sectarian fighting . They make Alawites sergeants to discipline a local military force which then whips people into paying their taxes and stop making noises . Capable ones then are advanced into managerial positions and so on . Promotional opportunity in return for hate and hate was there already , anyhow . Years pass and they are particularly bad years for the French and they have to give up . While leaving Syria they do their best to put friendlies in charge so that they can do it on remote control . It's kinda existential by that time , Alawites have gained power and losing it will also entail loss of more than a comparatively good salary .

then there's Israel . Filled with so many people with a history of actual suffering , they even overcome typical White stuff to be liked . At least not openly found repulsive . Take Croat pilots from WW II . They arrive and train Syrian pilots , 'cause you know they were all for one bullet for each Serbian and always ready to find more Jews for the gas chambers and ovens . Wrong , when their contracts expire Israelis call them and they all go to Israel to train Israeli pilots . Except the ranking Croat ace with 23 or so claims in the WW II . He needs to stay close to Luftwaffe dudes so that he can be recognized in the same mold . And it becomes war ; not least because Israel becomes the whip to keep people under control . If conspiracy prone , you can rant and rant on how the RAF was so eager to fight the Egyptians and not so against the Jews . Top rank Griffon Spits of Brits kicking the hell out of weak Merlin Spits of Arabs and yet keeping their flights milling in the sky to wait for a surprise bounce of middle range Merlins with the 6 pointed star , flown by Anglosaxons to boot . So that there can be feeling of safety and more people can risk a troublesome sea journey to brave the so so naval blockade of Palestine . Or some real risk of being shot dead there .

syrians get regularly kicked and nothing happens ? Because the Sunni elites , who actually "share" , love the scheme . Alawites rule , wealth through trade flows to the Sunnis . Each can blame the other for any untoward thing while the system is kept alive by the non-ending and kinda real threat of Israeli expansion . 1973 was bad , in the sense closest ideological enemies , the Iraqis could boast of saving Damascus . Not that a grave threat but 1980s saw the Soviets faltering , a disasterous showing in 1982 when all the tech superiority that went with the US teen series was harshly proven . The Syrian system went to easier pastures , like supporting Iran against Iraq and (of course) the seperatists against us . The building of dams would never result in blocking the flow of Euphrates and Tigris to the Arabs , in the manner of Israelis and their White pals have been pushing since 1950s and became much insistent after 1973 . The other justification , the liberation of Hatay , the cradle of something of Arab Christianity if nothing else , was on equally pointless grounds but did keep the system .

then Kurds found new protectors . Hafız Esad saw the comin' 'stan and whom a Kurdish nation state was supposed to fight . Instead of being runover , which still happens to be a top ranking mystery , he stopped and reversed the system . Better have Syria as a spectator instead of matrydom on behalf of the Kurds . When he died in 2000 and his son replaced him , Ankara typically clueless as always jumped in with both feet ; thinking they would secure their South from freaking evil Shia domination as America would soon start a war and invade Iran . Didn't happen with Bush II going Iraq . With the typical dogfight taking or not taking place over the Med , so that Washington would also invade Syria and depopulate it . With eventual settlement by you know whom . Syrians of course supported the Sunnis , the early heart-eaters with an American invasion so much on the cards . The original timetable was invasions two years apart : '01 Afghans / '03 Iraq / '05 Syria / '07 Iran and ' 09 which you also know . '05 was right on time when Americans started to discover Syrian support to terrorists but they had greatly erred in putting sacks over the heads some soldiers on a fool's errand . A pathetic , throughly CIA infiltrated attempt to assassinate some Kurdish politician and stuff and greatly useful in emboldening the Kurds for the decade of slaughter that laid ahead . They are to fight and liberate their "country" ; just check the timetable . Nobody even here likes those who have actually killed people with baseball bats but imagine the field day with all those pictures of Turkish terrorists in military uniforms paraded re-appearing just before the Syrian invasion in which we are naturally supposed to avenge their filthy support of the seperatists .

a fact of life ... It appears we are too big for the US , so they need a Civil War here . But then it also appears we are too big also for the gods of war , meaning dear Kurds , so they need a full frontal Turkish - American war .

enter Condileeza Rice . ı understand her father's church was bombed by White Supremacists and she had this familiarity with certain aspects of Christianity . She gave no hoots for the timetable and she really looked like the part that she could deliver the goods with far less American boys and girls blown apart ; elections and stuff you know ... She won't get any Peace Nobels for it but she declared so many borders in the Middle East were to change . Yeah , she is the one who changed the Algerian option in Turkey where a weak Islamist goverment would do far too much for the taste of the Seculars and "Muslims" would run to the arms of the seperatists for neighbours-cut-throats-of-neighbours kind of Civil War . Islamist Goverment was now to reform the country . That's why the upto 2005 type of Coup planning went nowhere and this praying-5-times-a-day 4 star who refused alcoholic drinks was denied being the star of the most "necessary" rescue of Kemalism . With democracy comin' to Turkey and an economic crisis to US , it was Cheney that pushed for an all-out Congregation take-over of the country after 2006 with a spate of faked court cases , starting with the 2007 murder of an Armenian journalist . Naturally the Armenian would turn out to be a much better "Turkish nationalist" if we were to be invaded ; when compared to the Congregation .

which was raised as a stab-in-the-back type of force and Pentagon's military cells of "deeper" kind strenously objected to its misuse . People who kiss hands made out of marble and stuff of their spiritual leader , thinking of him as the Mehdi / Messiah might spill the beans if too emboldened . Just for a moment take yours idiotly as some F-16 pilot . Which is more fun a way for me to die , being shot down by a F-22 , costing maybe a hundred thousand , maybe a million bucks with all that expenditure of missiles and stuff ? Or , dead with all the family by rat poison in my dinner , actually stabbed in the dressing room as ı put on my flight gear , by my missile exploding on the rail just as ı fire on an American Bug aka F/A-18 , or my landing wheels collapse while taking off and ı become a fiery comet on the runway ? Shot down by friendly fire in the air would be risky 'cause they themselves might well be hunted down by the F-22s or they might just miss with all the tampering to take place before the War . ı might survive the melee and be discovered by those who have used baseball bats to kill afterall , right ?

the compromise was the Muslim superpower . Have Congregation take over the entire Military , improve economy , make A-K-P never fail , find a way to integrate the seperatists so that baseball bat owners would enjoy their retirement and keep sleepin' and make an example of the success story of the New Turkey . Rumsfeld bitterly opposed , once being the youngest defence Secretary , right about the time we were to be destroyed in a massive F word stuff on Cyprus and the like eternal Turkish question solved for once and all . He was shown the door after his stint as the oldest Defence Secretary of the US . He has this awesome rant about the things Americans don't know that they don't know . Replaced by Robert Gates , fan of Kemal , who survived into the first term of the spineless jerk . We Turks have been a thorny issue , massively converting and stuff as the Arabs wasted the legacy of Muhammed and adding another millenia to Islam , kinda badly bugging those Fundies both sides of the divide . Gates put a brake on the excesses , decreased the numbers of F-22 down to a size more relevant to a stroll in the Central Park of New York , turned a blind eye to Lockmart delaying the F-35 in one of the greatest robberies of all time and went and bought some stuff far more useful for the type of war Americans were daily fighting . And he sank some of the best schemes , like the one where Bin Ladin escapes from Tora Bora through complicity of Turk loving Pakistanis . The contrast to their high hopes were such that some Republicans were like how did this happen . We are always accused of being of the Devil ; so they with all their pals across the spectrum decided to show us . If some N woman unwittingly saved us , well ...

ı haven't forgotten Syria . When Obama came to power , with a promise of change and yet keeping so many people of the old in power and stuff happening in Turkey , they were quick to deduce America was the leopard , with the same old spots . As the Arab world was shaking with carefully played Wikileaks and all the goodies they came to agree that they would be inevitably targeted . It was a surrender to Turkey , with the expected honour and stuff . The Alawite power would be removed and replaced by Sunnis money in due course . While the former oppressors might exile themselves to places like the UK or Germany the masses would be kept safe and sound , you know , by the 20% or so of this country who have survived the Sunni majority for like 500 years . It became alarmingly cheezy when there were talks of a Middle East Shengen , decidedly alarming with talks of unification . In which every Syrian Goverment Minister would become an "aide's aide" to his Turkish counterpart . Which naturally led the smarties to think they were doing that . Syria's tragedy starts there with Ankara starting to think it's no longer an American puppet while Syrians think the rejection elsewhere is due to spite over the support of seperatists , if not descending from emigrees of Selanik .
 
 
there's no urgency . Tunus , the accident , overcomes its dictator and places an Islamist party in charge and has so far done so amicably , their Jihadists providing cannon fodder for every other fight around and some females "famously" realising some French Military tradition . Of the Mobile Army Brothel , covered by "marriage" . After paying so much homage to A-K-P , the Tunisians have even replaced their Islamists with peaceful elections ... Egypt , the pinnacle of Arab power , changes the guard with some soul stirring theatrics , masses desiring Democracy laughing at the low flying F-16s and braving a raid of camel cavalry . Soul stirring indeed for the Arab masses . Nobody likes Kaddafi , it appears , as Washington takes off the gloves and sets upon raiding the massive Libyan armouries , there was a tank depot with like 500 T-55s in it , fresh from the factory 20 , 30 years ago and like never driven again . Colonel's tools of diplomacy , sending a dozen or two to some African country for this or that . They will be now used to arm the Sunni Storm .

which is the essence of Obama's foreign policy , he will aid and abet the Saudis and the kind to take over the Muslim world , by fire and blood . To this end he continues the Bushist scheme of cooling wih Iran so that Riyadh can not "accidentally" start a shooting war in the Gulf and all the energy can be used to create a vacuum that needs to be filled . According to the whims and designs of the US . As Algeria starts "precision" bombing of the Jihadists in Libya , because of its far too bloody 1990s and a rather careful dread of the term "spillover" , the spineless jerk immediately intervenes and promises the world to the Algerians . Meanwhile the TV audiences see a new kind of Arab , the bearded hunk with an AK and a RPG . Handsome freedom fighter blankets tons of stuff , as legion upon legion of fools , misfits , losers who couldn't bed a single chick in Amsterdam and all those intelligence operatives of all sorts of agencies descend to the Libyan deserts , organized into a fighting outfit that might be used against "tougher" opposition . Covered by the minimum possible airpower to prolong the fight and "train" more legions . CFC might remember the Libyan who was shouted down with human rights stuff with a vengeance ; other things developed for him , like a need to hide . The Saudi's Foreign Ministry answer (to him) sighed and found this forum utterly boring ; with the spineless jerk at their back what could stop them ? No sign of the British dude , did they make him an ambrassador to somewhere ?

after glorious victory , comes the crunch ... Syria expects mercy , peaceful transition , the stuff begins . AND London denies entry to exiles ! Likewise from all . You knows , Kurds are to fight for their homeland , we will deny that to them and they will come and kill us . If no Civil War of Syria , how can Kurds fight and gloriously be a threat to us ? Whole units of the Syrian army defect to the rebellion with expectation that the Turkish one would come and decide the issue in a week . You know , Syria never expected to defeat Israel , never thought it could take over Iraq , never attempted to invade Jordan or Lebanon , not when proxies made remote control possible . But they knew they might have to fight Turkey someday , for some reason and they stocked stuff for that eventuality . Given no chance to give up , Damascus started to fight . Cheated out of yet another cheap one , the jihadist response would be the murder and rumoured rape of the US Ambrassador to Libya . Iran was surprised to see Syria standing , their deal with Bush was giving up the Shia of the "West" for eventual domination of Iraq as a buffer zone . It took about a year to "cheat" and stand beside Damascus for good . Drove Riyadh crazy , would mean Ankara so busy with the Counter-Revolution would have muscle in .


we lost an RF-4E in some stupid action designed to draw NATO in . Despite all the talk of how they all yearn for martyrdom , the newly elites of this country do not want to die . By some freak Syrian SCUD strike . Emasculating the now extinct Turkish Armed Forces and having _rgasms out of it , they can not bring themselves to trust Turkey's limited means of combat . They might die , and any success of the military would "prove" they were not the godless alcoholic dogs of West kept solely to oppress Muslims . NATO must come in to destroy everything and then leave so that the smarties can lead the prayers of the conquerors in Damascus with a million of their Sunni brothers . Had it here already , in something about 2009 or whatever there was this Turkish delegation to Damascus and they went to a mosque . Next to the Syrian Military Museum , the exhibits of which limited the area , hence the numbers of who could pray simultaneously . The Syrians were practically ordered to remove the exhibits and fighting Israel is practically the only thing the Syrians have ever achieved . All the missiles , tanks and planes commomerating 1973 were removed ...

this incredible thing , this skittishness , angered the spineless jerk . You didn't hear a thing from him when entirely made up charges were laid against the institutions of country , to destroy the Republic . He insisted he was on a good thing with yearly charades of calling 1915 a genocide with using the Armenian phrase and reminding the Armenian audiences that he felt exactly the same as the time he was first campaigning for Presidency where he had said it in plain English . And claiming he didn't say to us . Every year . And certainly not a single "word" on the murder of the Armenian journalist , because the murderers were America's best boys , as were the judges and cops investigating that . His every single gesture to the smarties , the newly elites , the New Turkey had been positive , part of the thing of lookin' like servile to the interests of the jihadis , famously through that photo showing him bowing to the Saudi King . Now that his first foreign visit included Turkey and he told this country to roll over and die in its Parliament , clearer in view of those "off the record" comments , there was really no expectation of him to resist New Turkey turning over whole towns to the seperatists , to eventually result in a quarter of the territory to them alone and rest shared on a 50 to 50 basis . He had personally gone through meetings where the Prime Minister of this country had taught him politics .


yet there he was . Stunned that Ankara actually thought Ankara was the master ... He didn't want Syrians emboldened , too - with such a drastic failure . He came up with the famous redlines , hoping his glorious Congregation would be more willing to fight ... Yeah , with each success of the A-K-P more positions were passing to the control of the Congregation which was becoming less likely to go and risk it all . If handled a defeat , the godlikeness of their leader might be outed as a fraud , right ? So , it was entirely OK for Syrians to bomb their cities to rubble , with kids and families under . Though , using chemicals was baaaaaaaaaaad . ı can't really say if Breaking Bad was an inspiration in such a decision ... And naturally everybody started gassing people .
 
 
worse things were to come . The smarties loved insulting the Republic , had shared _rgasms with their American handlers . Invading Syria was the biggest thing ; America wouldn't and Ankara couldn't so another insult was arranged . Evil emigrees of Selanik had stolen the country in the 1908 events and there was an uprising in 1909 and the barracks that had led that had been demolished . This was unjust , this was unislamic , this was good business for friendly companies , the mall to be built in center of the Istanbul had been promised to Arab bigwigs and they would get to cut down trees , to the howl of liberal tree hugging losers . There were protestors who camped there , in a midnight raid they were gassed out and their tents were burned , no big deal ...

tree hugging losers here tend to be of families who avoid trouble , they protested and went down to the streets demonstrate . They were naturally gassed out and beaten after getting water cannoned . Football fans thought this was too much . For these people , their neighbours , had always warned them against excess , had always stood for order and was this even justified ? Even before "professional" demonstrators arrived a few police officers were roughed up . It then exploded ... All it takes is a couple of people who refuse to back down ; the New Turkey was terrified to see the demonstrations could not be broken . There were preparations to cut and run , including to Qatar . With disbelief and forced to swear that this was not an American operation , the spineless jerk , pulled all the strings and levers in his disposal . Threats flew in the air , sanctions were on the door if the good boys were forced to run , seperatists obliged by massing at their rather unmolested hide-outs , Congregation's military dusted off the lists of execution . Not that there was any intention , certainly in the fashionable of fashion of demonstrations leading to Civil War . Apologies were offered , promises of backing down were issued and the cooling down period saw so little a number of Alevis killed ; you know because the smarties are so well read in theories of starting trouble to consolidate support that they were unaware it had already passed .

and trouble again . A massive chemical attack in Damascus , awesomely right moment for America to strike . A couple of cruise strikes , one or two B-2 sorties and turning all to Turkey . So that prolonged combat , the stress and warcrimes to corrode one's soul would break the spirit and make us ripe for our Civil War . And utter disbelief , Ankara once again refusing to take charge and attack ; NATO shall come and win and leave the laurels to Ankara , just like America has been the lackey to the Saudis in 1991 . Nobody trusts nobody in Ankara , one single Syrian bomb dropped might kill people 50 kilometers apart . Freshly chewed by the Whitey Homey Congregation famously releases tapes of a plot to frame Syria for an attack on Turkish territory ; this way Congregation wants to infiltrate people who don't wanna ; the release being proof of like-mindedness . It touches a nerve ; makes A-K-P aware of the regular affairs where some super smart Americans plot to prove that Turks were somehow fighting in Syria , killing innocent people heinously , because Turks are of the Devil . When passed to Seymour Hersh , he made a hash of it , accusing the PM's lot stealing some Russian rockets , filling it with CW and firing it from Syrian Army positions . Then converting the data to prove Syrian complicity and trying to get peaceful America back to war ... My Lai scored , because it was real ... That debacle kinda sealed the spineless jerk's fate , too . With passively taking it , in the usual way , with allowing his guests to wave a finger at him White House . He would soon be joking that at least Donald Trump could never become the President .

his gripe at Ankara can be seen in real life interviews where he accuses that the PM failed to use the "mighty" Turkish military power in Syria . Obama , as the POTUS , owned Turkey , wonder why he failed to order the mighty forward himself ... And yes , 'stan beckoned and Kurds needed a polishing . ISIL came . Musul was needed for the pony show so the Kurds in the Iraqi service abandoned their posts and saved Kerkük while the Sunnis joined the jihadis , while the limited numbers of the Shia were executed . 30 000 people in two divisions defeated by 800 heroic beardies . Seperatists needed their share of fighting evil , so the isolated Yezidis were abandoned by Barzani shiny uniforms otherwise known as the Peshmerga and stuff . Yezidis ran to the mountains , they were raped and killed if caught in full view of the world . Some kid , barely months old , left in harsh sunlight so that his eyeballs would burn out . So that seperatists could leisurely come and fight the beardies to a "standstill" , when there was nothing left to pillage in the area and ISIL could be deployed in Syria . Peshmerga performance actually shamed a guy from attending the Off-topic forum ...

the brotherly fight between the Kurds and ISIL turns sour as the Kurdish "liberation" arrives at parts of Syria where the Arabs form the majority as more and more Arabs are pushed from their villages to form a purely Kurdish belt in the Kurds' run to the sea , you know , as an outlet for the pipelines for oil and gas they are stealing from Iraq . ISIL needs the propaganda of standing up for the oppressed Arabs ... so they have to fight . America always contributes to the just war ; they keep their planes in the air , dropping a bomb or two a day . You can't fly in the same airspace with Americans , if they don't like you ... The tens of thousands of hours flown "attacking" ISIL targets practically works out as CAP for ISIL . Just like Americans watched thousands of jihadis travelling in convoys to fight in Syria , just like they attacked independent facilities of tribes to concentrate oil production in ISIL controlled territories in the hands of jihadis . They also watch as the Kurdish Stalingrad takes place for days and weeks . In plain sight from the Turkish border and the relatives of the so called Kurdish fighters ever ready to lynch Arab wounded arriving in hospitals ... The PM finally brags Ayn El Arab will soon fall , two days of disturbance with dozens killed , seperatists and "Hizbullah" openly fighting , jihadist sympathizers thrown from the top of buildings and run over with cars . And America suddenly starting to bomb ISIL as they could have done from day one ... Mind you this is still not about spite on the PM , but teaching a lesson to the seperatists , Obama still keeps an eye on his pals .

actually checked for dates and see my immediate ranting on this has led me called James Joyce and stuff , simply because being so against the narrative of the Media of 2014 . Yeah , it's still just about a year before Russians arrive , with a certain amount of contempt for the status of American hold on the world ...
 
and yet with pitiful little baby steps . Forced into action by the Ukranian troubles . Which were a warning to Russians to stop with the workings of the UN because the gloriously heroic Army of Petrol claimed it would wipe people of the map and the face of the world like a breeze but was afraid of legalities . As always ı never demand anyone believe me in anything ı say but so ... Russia had to avoid looking like an obedient puppy , after the reasonable thing on Libya . Which had been immediately treaded over by the French . After some Libyans signed 35% of their oil reserves to French companies and this despite Sarkozy being in the "pay" of Kaddafi , with tons of funding reputedly used in election campaigns ... Russia had a name to protect , angered Washington , was taught a lesson in the Ukraine or maybe it wasn't exactly so and Russia taught a lesson in the Ukraine . Putin had no quarrel with Obama and yet was awarded for the gravity of Russian history with decreased oil prices , combat action , the ignomity of a downed Malaysian airliner and so many Press articles . And he didn't have any quarrels with Ankara either .

now this so called flow of history forces people in a certain direction , right ? Capitalism has won and they are all capitalists in Russia , merely kicked out the oligarchs who allowed rape of the Soviet wealth on the cheap , right ? Borders will change , who cares , let them change , wars drive up oil prices , right ? Here's Obama , playing servant to Kings ; you wave a finger at him and he will order Marines to carry an umbrella for you and create a furore over whether Marines can _ing carry an umbrella for their commander in chief ; this creates a smile of _rgasm in Turkey . They have done the now extinct Turkish Military to death , now it's the turn of the US to know who is da boss . Years will pass and things will go sour and Turkish journalists will insult soldiers in parade as if they are their superiors and will be surprised to receive no "Well Done!" messages from the US Ambrassador to Ankara , who happens to be the colonial governor . And yet am pretty sure that ı saw a black female soldier or something bringing an umbrella for the benefit BSS in his Inoguration .

syria is holding out , Iran has joined the fun and time to time does "terrific" operations that scare the jihadis to the core . White man's capacity to do his will over Brown folks is at risk , Russia arrives to save the name of the West , overflying Turkish territory to scare the demonseed into submission . You know the spineless jerk could raise or sink this country with a phone call , telling do this or that , it's that much . And does he ever really do anything ? Even the massive slide down in "standarts" in this country is his choice , with the thing in mind that we are the scum of the earth and deserve anything . There are numbers to measure anything and 100 points makes a country heaven or Earth while 0 is hell , right ? In 2015 our score was 53 , '16 saw it at 38 . If we are the Motherland , North Cyprus is the "Babyland" and despite being the 82th province of a country with 81 provinces it scores 80 ... Yeah , the thing is solid : America will not let the Counter-Revolution fail . And yet this stops the onward march of History . So , Russia intervenes to make it look like it was a different White Power that stopped the unstoppable Whites ...

what happenz ? Hell happenz . Nobody would have dared shooting down that Russian jet without express American approval to get some . Russians would hit back , we would hit back , Americans would abandon us , NATO would cheer Russia and we will get what has been coming for us for a millenia . Trust me on this , nobody ever likes us ...

barack Hussein was left speechless . It happenz . He could have ended the bloodshed in Syria anytime he had wished . He could have taken ISIL like a rabbit from a hat and had it knocked out as easy as he had it started . He might have ended the slavery of people , saved all the Yezidi women from the harems , he might have declared 'stan the newest country in the world . He might have burned us to cinder in 30 minutes flat . And the sad thing is he is actually principled , he found himself unable to change the plans , the never failing schemes , through loyalty to the "interests" of the country which must come before self ... His grumbling at the failures , which wasn't his alone , only resulted in negative responses . The cheering in Turkey at the election results are only now starting to fade , with masses of people noticing that weird lack of response at the Muslim Ban . He even created a comedy act , Adolfo Hitlero in Manilo , who calls him bad things and throws people off choppers to prove bad eggs can happen time to time and it's an human thing .

and what's his reward for all that ? Some dude who has wowed to destroy his legacy , say the incredibly delayed Universal Health Care in the US . He might have stopped BSS from getting elected by simply pressing a button and sending the cyber war machinery of the US into war , he might have really ordered and see it done . Instead being one of the greatest US Presidents , he has merely brought some nutter to power . A dude who booked a hotel room to relieve himself on the bed on which an American President had once slept , as a revenge for a joke he was told two days before and asked for co-operation , if he was OK with that happening and stuff ...
 
ı hate feedback . Say , an example was like eyes wide open , in slight terror . The posts of Friday are not world shattering , not worthy of anything and yet led me to irritation . As said more than a few times , ı have a preset channel on the radio , for the Voice of Russia . Which spent the entire Saturday with the heavy strikes against the seperatists . And Sunday on big operations against ISIL ; with apparently some 440 now 700 people in custody . ı wasn't expecting to hear any discussions of the claims that the Colonel in Kremlin sold the 20% of the Russian National Oil Company to that dude in the Whitey Homey and took as 0.5% as a commission , but the overturning of the Muslim Ban , however temporary , should have merited a mention , right ? Turns out some major Public companies of Turkey are taken over by a Fund or something . At least their seaside locations where one can build 5 star hotels ... Well , one can readily expect a phone call from Washington and a very good mannered conversation , soon , right ? It's one thing to call Obamacare is realized in Turkey while the original will gloriously soon be no more , but lack of contact from the other side of the Atlantic has been kinda worrisome for Ankara ... Oh , being the POTUS pays rather well , ı guess . So , what's the point of providing more ammo to the jokes of people here on how handsome the US State Department finds me ? The ogre , goblin , whatever ? Say , the TV channel of the Nationalist treason finds it unfair to waste so many chances to mock me , while losing their collective heads and distributing Shia propaganda that some Saudi ship was boarded and the entire crew cut down . Though the news that the aerial branch of the Army of Petrol was infiltrated by 120 "older brother of secrecy" was "interesting" ... These Congregation dudes supposedly responsible for two junior pilots each , making a capacity for 240 of those heroic dudes who might done yours idiotly in , if yours idiotly was -most unrealistically" an F-16 pilot . So , it turns out 180 of those hundreds of flight rated people who were arrested as coupists are co-operating with the Police and have been returned to duty . One presumes with ample supplies of rat poison , knives and screwdrivers to work on the landing gears . Now that this is kinda risky , and people are like so apologectic or something to prove they are so good friends of US , perhaps maybe ı should clarify . Was to get rated for my prop command , this P-40 unit you know , and my training ended in 8 minutes flat instead of 3 hours and the instructor was happy to catch the football match on TV . ı am the first guy to have stood a propjob on its nose in the last 27 years . Looks like the photo of this French P-47 from 1952 and [dear locals] it's not a good thing to brag about ... Fulfilling the qouta of silly stuff , right ?



oh dear , look at my vanity post which was supposed to be just two lines long .
 

Attachments

  • 1358644173_monografie-01-focke-wulf-fw-190-vol.1-1.jpg
    1358644173_monografie-01-focke-wulf-fw-190-vol.1-1.jpg
    299.1 KB · Views: 302
dear Americans , even if you think that you know it all , let me tell you what will happen . At least what your Establishment thinks will happen . There are those who really and really want the world to end so that White Americans can really and really take over the Heaven . Yet , such true Evangelism and stuff raised to such heights in the 1890s , you know with New Age dudes seeking an alliance with the Devil and inventing various extra "ungodliness" towards that purpose were proven to be dead ends over time ; say , all the glory of Rough Riders in Cuba could not hide the fact that the Catholic Spanish Heathen were armed with better rifles . It becomes a whole new ball game when the enemy is not Redskins , dependent on your firewater and arms smugglers . Yeah , you can immediately pirate Mausers and claim 1903 Springfields are like totally matchless but it leads to gnawing suspicions inside ; Devil is a cheat afterall , right ?

results in partial solutions , temporary tricks , now you see / now you don't affairs . This is indeed yet another vanity post , after ı end up scalded for not mentioning New Zealand . You know which was on the same newspaper with the 180 heroes Ankara felt compelled to announce it had released for duty in the service of US . That CEOs of many companies fear a world war or a zombie uprising ...

which is entirely true as the Poor do not actually live but exist in jealousy of the Rich and want a share without deserving it , want a piece of the Rich . The Rich keep silent when the Poor are around and live behind fences and if there's any problem , the Poor are best handled with a shooting in the brain , you know some smarter fool who might organize street demonstrations or talk some nonsense about equality . Yeah , you read it here first , the reason why there are so many zombie flicks and stuff in the 21st Century , while Romero had not thought out this angle when he was inventing the genre ...

oh yeah , the Rich buy shelters in New Zealand . As reported by the British Media . For that to appear here on Sunday , it should have been read by editors on Saturday , so it must have been Friday when they appeared in the kiosks of London , hence the editorial choice on Fleet Street or whatever must have been taken on Thursday , hence unrelated to the slightly terrorizing stuff here . Some truly harsh words as ı have failed to note that the Rich have freed us from forced emigration to Mars and are now offering a place in New Zealand , when people start building gas chambers here . Because as you know , Turks are fools and anyone a bit above the "cut" must be secretly something else . We must be weaned out . So , some 70 guys have bought out shelters down there , stocking tons of weapons , too . One guy , though , has been practising bow and arrows . All fault of ILM and the Battle of Naboo , where "fast" gets deflected while "slow" goes in ... As if we won't invade New Zealand .

when questioned , ı offered Orcs , which we truly are , a regiment or so of Uruk Hais , with the movies being filmed there . Was found anti-Tolkien . So , ı mentioned a diversion from the Martian garrison's designated zone of operations . The explosion taking place right there ; Roy Braybrook , an aviation writer apparently once claiming Australia could be invaded only by Martians and who am ı to prove him right ? The New New Zealanders , expect to see AT-ATs at the door ; their knees are weak and they don't like ropes around ankles ...


returning to more mundane matters like World War III with China , under glorious leadership of BSS ? We see spectacular spectacles of China talking for the Global Village while the Orange Messiah talks of unjustice , clears both sides to talk of "threats" and allows both to avoid long standing "commitments" . There's no point in respecting Washington for anything , but the new era of American politics is this most awesome canard for the Chinese Communist Party to put brakes on "democratization" so that they can get away with ruining the economies of so many countries with their chattel produced cheap exports and denying imports from the worthless as they convert themselves into a consumer economy . Too much wealth into the hands of the zombies and they will be shaken out of it .

so you have seen all and think this is just senseless rambling ? Oh , we are so ahead of you , in experience of seeing it all before . My country is awesome ; when some loser country goes and builds a research station in Antarctica , it's about the hole in the Ozone Layer or feeding habits of the penguins . Not ours , with the Goverment Minister declaring we will establish a claim . You know , we gotta have territories above the traitorous Kemalist Regime did with the traitorous treaties in the 1920 and 30s . Not that the loser countries care about the penguins and it's all about whatever can be converted into money , but it's this finesse thing . My country is like a "lion" against "gazelles" , those who can't defend themselves against our might , suffer our mighty wrath . Lions stop eating when they are full , no signs of that here . Though TV documentaries show that lions take care about the hyenas and
would personally understand taking care about the "hyena" in the White House but the newspapers are kinda amused with this recent lack of heroism in this comin' era of manliness , where Ankara is not the onlyplace where chest banging is all that matters . Nobody expects Ankara to talk against BSS , the guy who now holds all the strings as the puppet master and nobody is ever surprised to read glorious journos who declare this "new" is responsible Statesmanship and anyone who remembers just last year's attitude is a traitor . But the UN has just released a damning report on Myanmar's excesses against Muslims , despite the thing that their female leader is such a darling of the West and stuff . Are Rohinghas no more Muslims ? Are they just Brown people now ? Where are the bursting veins as oppression is condemned ?


rather more pressing concerns . Last August they establish a Fund with 50 million Turkish liras , just about the money the BSS might spend on his toilet seat when he's done robbing the planet in his scheme
. See , America is conducting economic warfare against this country , which is actually true . In that , time to time reminders are arranged to show disaster awaits if anything happens . The Fund will fight that . Oh-kay . Because the Congregation did the disgrace of July 15th , there's this decree that says major companies of the State will be turned over to the Fund , contrary to hours and hours of Parliamentary debate and procedures that would be otherwise required . Oh-kay , 'cause you might end up in jail , because . There can be no state examination into the affairs of this Fund , because it has to be capable of fast reactions to enemy manipulation of the stock markets and traitorous accountants try to slow down heroic defense of the country with investigations of corruption , to see whether heroes are stealing money . Dear Americans , you might soon hear of this despicable "Bürokratik Oligarşi" when the oft quoted Small Goverment becomes a "requirement" when your new Administration needs to fight evil . In its American version , obstructing the will of the true American people (ie. those who voted for Donald Trump) while covering its dastardly acts with a cloak of legality and stuff like transperancy .


oh yeah , when the Voice of Russia lauds something , it's obviously bad for the country . One gives them a break , for their hour of opposition though . One of the latest episodes had it full with how the heroic Fund was actually a last gasp at survival . Said they can't find money from abroad . Didn't say it was because the West wants a Kurdish nation state and the newly elites think the political price they will have to pay might be tooooooooooooooooo much . Hence the political reform , intented to save them all from accountability . The Fund will pawned for money to make the wheels turn . Just for the referandum they have forced the corporate banks to pay a one-time equivalent of 100 dollars to the retirees , in return for the State paying the retirees through their systems . Grandmothers will be paid money for looking after their grandchildren , with full scale payments to start after the vote count . Money that was kept for emergency expenditure in defence business was transferred to the Fund , a amount that works to less than a billion bucks because we all know there can be no emergencies as long as Washington is kept content . Much talk of the 2.2 millon square meters of land by the sea . See , hotels to build and take advantage of the 8 million extra tourists the Goverment has decreed will come . Which is rather tame when contrasted to the Goverment spokesperson who has talked again . That the will of the voters is the right one and the sole reason this country is not an Iraq , Syria or Libya is that the polling booth exists in Turkey . Really , nobody is commenting on that on whether we would have a Sunni Storm if the Vote came up wrong .
 
then it happens . It's Tuesday as ı punch the keyboard trying to type this arrant nonsense . Saliva in the corner of my mouth and my eyes spinning ... To understand this last , you gotta see the Crusades documentary of Al Crusading . In which we Turks learn we Turks were worthless in the fight and it was like a conspiracy to steal the Arabs' riches . In which all the Western Kings and Popes have blue eyes that can't stay still in one place , 'cause they be maniacs while all the Arabs are scholars who write manuscripts and yes , all the heroes are beardies . The single exception being the Lionheart , him being pal of Saladin . Your eyes spin if you don't fit the glorious narrative in the Middle East . Well , my mother is reading the newspaper on the other room and sees something in the ads page , sending yours idiotly on an errand . marching to the mall , which is like on the other side of the town . On the way and in there yours idiotly discovers he is apparently part of the campaign now . The mall is owned by the French and you would expect the type of people working there to be of the kind who do not start one sentence in three with the word Kafirler . Seems ı will not allow them to work if the New goes away . Let me see , the ancestors and relatives (ı never had or even dreamed of having) established this Republic as an infidel act and made women work a la Communists to decrease the number of Muslims who might have been born if all the women were not too tired during the day ? Now this ? Because , let me see , ı am supposed to have said stuff to "bir bayana" . This thing which was started as yet another joke and turned into malice , involving stuff why poor r16 could never find someone and Washington would just send over one . Because ı do not like totally respect or something US State Department people , this means now ı will prohibit women from work who like should vote accordingly that the New will never loose ...

ı had this brief moment of chivalrious fame when ı posted on CFC -in normal ranting- that ı would not receive Obama if he came for a talk and this was taken as a goodwill gesture after an event that went undeservedly bad . The thing is am not worthy of talking in the first place and will not receive any US President even for when they are so ready to surrender Washington (besieged by the Turkish Army) , either . Mind you , not the Army of Petrol . And mind you , they are sending respectable females , instead of gung ho dudes who might look imposing enough to be spoken to in proper language . Afterall the US Ambrassador to Turkey judged yours idiotly as a fool , having his car parked to the side as ı was walking somewhere , a guy protected by some people whom the smart Congregation would get rid of soon ; when they wrecked the country with the first series of their fake trials . Those girls , some of whom are responsible of creating a crisis of jealousy in parts of the 15 years old segment (girls and boys) are then replaced then as it becomes clear that nobody would indeed talk to them , with the US schemes deserving truly appropriate phrases you are not allowed to say to anyone whom you are not like "married" to . Strangely enough , this comes after a weekend when people like understood neither me and stuff nor them and stuff ever wanted to meet in the first place . Yeah , odd fact , Washington is not sending officials here to bed with me . The New Turkey is much more successful , let alone being real , so unlike me ; how many Western diplomats have gone to bed with them smarties already ?


not that there's any interaction advised or implied in the thing , it being an idiom that can be used kinda safely , but ı find it real surprising my so many "translators" in the city , who know everything ı know far better than me , didn't know that . Wait , why is that a surprise ?

tell it pointblank that Trump can go to hell and this first becomes an insult to "bir bayana" , then a threat to all women . So that they all feel for a girl who is here to unwittingly put them all out of work . Unwittingly , because she might otherwise resign or something when she discovers she is supposed to be the foreign centerpiece of an enterprise to "reform" this country . So at some point in the future some beardy comes and checks them and raises his right hand and declares them to be his property . As it happened in this world shattering , globe conquering jihad in Syria . Wait , this could not happen here . We are like totally the greatest nation on earth and the evil Republic stole our greatness from us . So , it's all fault of r16 , who is like totally against the right of women to be able to buy a bar of chocolate for their kids , without any single moment of begging involved whatsoever . This last naturally will be translated as a "fact" , as a "truth" ... Though it's so slow a way . Perhaps it's not that fast in other ways , as well . Oh , look , r16 today called the American President stuff . You know , actually he did . In stark contrast to hundreds trolling some girl on how she was like totally insulted .

where was ı ? Oh , telling dear Americans what to look for . Well , you have just about reached greatness when you start to hear things about the latest glorious glory . Which are to take place everyday . Let's return to the Fund . It stabilized and saved the Turkish economy in a single night . On Monday it was about to protect our economy in case of an attack . The night's TV debates had these weak questions of transperancy ; because everybody knows the reported 6 000 strong , real proffessional troll army of the A-K-P is ready to pounce and police custody awaits those too heavily targeted . Thus , Tuesday's newspapers and stuff report on the glorious news that two more giants have decided to come in and share the patriotic duty . As if they could ever refuse as State owned companies . The monetary value assembled in this great assembly is now on the order of 10 billion US dollars ! Such great development from 15 or so million dollars in so little a time ! As if they have made it , instead of transferring State assets . Last night's news snippets insisted on the R&D spending would reach 3% one of these years and honest to God they would unite all those institutions to cut waste . Economy channels had the beat that evil West was not allowing research into specific stuff and the glorious Fund would allow that happen . The only thing Ankara might research is the nuke , because the Iranians look close to one and Arabs love Turkey only when it promises to kick Iran's backside . Otherwise Koreans make immense profits when they sell something here and people brag of their latest "achievement" . To ease it even more , today there's even talk of accountants allowed in . Not of the State , but foreign rating agencies . Yeah , those Zionists who have been always telling lies about the state of the eeonomy ; the very people whom you could buy with a little money to disparage the glorious achievements of New Turkey . Economy dudes seem to love it , with gleaming eyes . Now that apparently Ankara has reached the end of what can be privatized , without swinging in the wind or something . So laws outta window .

so why am not walking in air , in pride , with this latest achievement ? Evil newspaper says the aim of the fund is to reach a magnitude of 200 billion dollars ... How this happens ? Say , with this Goverment Minister visiting Israel on the day ? Oh yeah , there is a guy on TV in the morning news that the Fund actually aims to buy big names outta there who have fallen into dire straits . See , the Jews rule the world , the New American President hates Jews and whatever they have ever done so he will cut them down so the Jews will fall into hard times and the Turkish Fund will buy those companies , on the cheap as befits the Conquerors and the newly elites of the New Turkey truly are like that . So the "heavy brother" of the Goverment visits Israel , asking the Jews there to turn up some contribution to the Fund so that Ankara will buy the property of Jews in the world and end Israel's domination of the world , because Israel's friend Donald Trump has won the White House and will cut down the Jews and move the Embassy to Kudüs to deceive the Jews . You don't get it ? Hmm , maybe it's because your IQ is something like 65 . This is a replay of how we would conquer the Middle East and the world , for which we only had to accept the partition of the country . And considering this morning's newspaper which ı glimpsed before leaving home , it might not be a replay ; for some Minister is either implying they had to use the limited means for the good of the country ; or maybe , just maybe , they will soon have vast oil reserves to allow the Fund work as all its equivalents in the world do ... If you find this post dumb , imagine how it could made twice dumber with a discussion of how people in the West still feel a need that they have to prove their worth to the Devil for an anti-god alliance and this they want to achieve with tricking the dudes who were the first Browns or something to repel Colonialism after the greatest victory in history of mankind and stuff upto then .

talking of races can be difficult or risky and this is the Goverment that so opposedly opposed Israel that trade doubled or tripled after the Israelis killed 9 or 10 Turkish citizens on the Mavi Marmara . Of course , this is a very complicated thing to explain , just like the fact that it's what the Saudis and the like has been doing for decades . So this professor of economy tells it bluntly . With so much money in the piggy bank , they might even buy the contracts of famous football players ! Did we know the European Central Bank took Ronaldo and stuff from Real Madrid ? No , we didn't , did we have to ? And the guy , like for the last time , allows the TV studio to cut his interview short , to let the "heavy brother" speak before he leaves for Israel . Odd , he doesn't look like one of the TV trolls who might have dared to scoff at a Minister . Yet , it wouldn't be a surprise ; A-K-P reputedly has 3 teams in the top Football league and one of them will obviously will be the champion and it would need the likes of Ronaldo to compete in Europe ...
 
the fund creates more waves . The first 3 posts were actually posted on an aviation forum . A member there longer ı have been here , but was banned for quite a while . Quite like the Discipline of History ... Am a guy on the web , while the Lockmart Troll Brigade include people , the moderators might actually see on the street , have a chat over drinks at a bar or meet in the office ; they are known people , published authors , correspondents in magazines and the like . Their word would trump mine and while ı was never disruptive , they might have post 19 e-mails each to the moderators , every day , for every thing ı might have said . Was banned from posting for good , but allowed to read as everybody knows the site is awesome and am indeed a plane nut and it would be truly unfair . Turned into a right of posting , after moderators would read it first and might or might not allow to appear . With the BSS in charge , the Troll Brigade is so silent and its so tranquil up there ; it would be unfair , in a way . You will see it's a bit lighter on stuff that ı might have used elsewhere ; posting of which started almost 10 days back .

 
oh-kay , the things one hears these days ... Like the bright future that lays ahead . Right of the bat , the Freedom Trainer . Back in the day , when America decided to save us from the Communist menace , they first motioned to equip the lot here with Mustangs , alongside Spits and Mosquitos which were in service already , being known identities . Decided against and sent a winning team of Thunderbolts and Invaders . Whether this was extremely hostile or of good intentions can be debated , considering the USAAF's experience with German Light Flak , for hours . (*) Ike's insistence on nukes and everybody-should-lend-a-hand approach meant F-100s , you know , brand new . Which hurt the sensibilities of so many people that Freedom Fighter became what it was , no doubt helped by the unreasonable opposition of the Greeks to the G-91 , which could hardly reach Ankara to bomb it . And Ankara's ... on the basis of if Greeks didn't want free stuff , it ought to be really bad .


what happened to Freedom Tiger (which is apparently some website in the 21st Century)
ı have been on it just within a month or so ; we got Fighting Falcons instead . Being banned from places , but able to peruse as a guest , ı wasn't able to respond to the threads about the subject on how the Code One Magazine clearly indicates how Lockheed was doing fabolously with a Blackbird "fighter" until they learned the ATF was "really" meant to be a 50 000 pounds plane and their 80 000 pounder was no go . Even as a silver bullet , when Stealth was to be of few airframes of many types , each for a different task , it wasn't that great an advance between 1960s and 80s . And then it fell to USAF to priotize systems integration , so that Lockheed won with a design and top and side views didn't match . Northrop would fall to the same trap of making a plane that could fly , just like GD and Boeing did and see the demands had been changed , right after they finished . And just like Tiger , they had the B-2 programme . Which would be slashed from 200 to 20 as soon as practicable . Code One has it . Or , considering a bit , maybe it doesn't ...


so , we are to have a poor man's F-22 , of a variation that rightly or wrongly lost to YF-22 almost 30 years ago . This is a bragging point , that poor man aspect . Meanwhile , thinking of "success" and export to Pakistan , the Indians are lobbying London to take as much as possible and make it inferior to Tejas . Ah , it will have an IRST !

what's cooking now ? We weren't allowed to have an attack helicopter programme until it became clear the majority of attack helicopter pilots could be Congregation moles , ready to betray the country in a moment's notice . Our Freedom Trainer apparently is not designed to carry armament ; clear wisdom as it makes it cheaper and the success or otherwise of the the L-39 in stopping "insurgents" can not be repeated when the insurgents have Stinger armed Direct Action Teams as advisors ? The programme is surely the reason why the CEO of the so called Turkish Airlines left , to the surprise of many and took the job at the so called TAI , co-located at the traitors' airbase ... The mighty great TF-X , will it manage to blow up on the tarmac on its own ? Or is it just a different kind of highway robbery ? The British Chief of Staff in Ankara on Friday and what spinelessness from him ; apparently failing to issue some joint threats ...
 
(*) because ,
ı know it has been . Jack Broughton is no longer with us to clarify whether he really saw the A-10 on the drawing boards of Republic , in 1958 by the latest . Designed as a napalm carrier and optimized for see 'em burn . ı think the M-61 was still called the T-151 when it first began . To replace the A-26 . Why would Republic want to replace the Skyraider ? Still it would be dominating the entire Turkey from one or two occupied airbases with its twin saddle turboprops . And yeah , its Luft 46 origins lie in the He-219 with saddle jets . And yeah , it didn't survive McNamara , who considered it too much plane for the cheap COIN campaigns to fight and got Broncos instead . How sad the joke it takes too much to foxtrot with the Turks can no longer make people wet themselves with laughter .
 
while risking banishment once again and certainly nobody would ever feel like needing it -let alone heeding the warning , let's say those who keep ignoring "history" are bound to end up worse than repeating mistakes . We have a decade of hearing how everybody that came before in Turkey was a coward and a traitor and miracles can be achieved by mere willpower . Nobody has willed against the miracles and where are they ? To explain what that means would take me a thousand posts over a year here and ı really don't think that would ever happen ; but ı know people by gossip and reputation . When ı posted almost a decade back that a tactical aviation trainwreck might happen in 2015 , Pentagon did not order the Lockmart troll brigade stop calling me an ignorant fool only because they had calculated it and leaked themselves anyhow . ı don't somehow think the rip-off to take place will now cease , because ı just have said something on the web . And surely the troll brigade will come back earnestly after the new Administration in Washington "fulfills" its election pledges about cost-cutting ; it even hurts eyes when searching for their wisdom on Key Forums lately . Amazing the silence is ; incredible is the lack of gloating by the F-35 haters , those idiots who would see their lies and fantasies crushed under a mountain of facts and still come for more on the morrow .


so , the well established UK Aviation scene wants Turkish money and will take it no matter what ... So , even English language articles now appear this is how an existential matter ... Maybe , a further annoying and pointless bit of history ?
ı have bought a new external HD and was moving some old saved files after finishing the draft of the one above when ı noticed [a saved HTML file about Australians discussing the acquisition of F-5s in 1959] .



first things first ... The thread starter , does not support what
am about to rant about . He only stresses things which are interesting or -shall we say - unbelievable ... And am merely picking what suits me , we are not in collusion in anything about anything ... Nor it might be all true ; people are merely talking in some informal way , they don't have tons of technical papers and "minders" of engineers with them ; they could equally be discussing the latest football / soccer game .


"The small NATO fighter which has been proposed to me, the F
–91, is just like the Australian boomerang. It is never out of sight. It won’t go far enough." is clear enough , let me spare you of how F-91 lost to be the MAP plane , without rockets and afterburners and fancy wing moving in view of the complexities of the F-100 . And the awesome "Of course, you run into the question, then, as to the control of the air. It would be useless in an area when you are facing a MIG–17 or MIG–19, although obviously you aren’t going to have a big MIG–17 or MIG–19 everywhere you are going to need another airplane." ı think ı have seen pdf files that showed guns were indeed optional in the early life of the Freedom Fighter and 1958 is just about the time Sidewinders proved themselves . Are the Australians really desiring a "fighter" plane that can not face a Fresco ? At least Farmer makes sense as a supersonic plane ? Are they counting on there will be not enough MiGs in the air , as factories in the USSR are churning out zillions of them ? Surely not a reference to full spec Russkies ? For the readers' information these are the bloated figures in estimations that apparently once claimed Foxbats could escort bombers to Iceland from Poland , apparently in formation at Mach 2.0 cruise in and out ... Or how tightly it could outturn the Phantom at all heights and speeds .


this is the type of the "fighter" the Turkish Air Force of yesterdays might well have been equipped , to put down a Kemalist uprising , say around 1965 . Which has been discussed in Washington as far as am assured by guys who have been called "Dogs" and worse behind their backs and always reminded to their faces of what might have happened if Vietnam had not happened . Not much relevance to an aviation forum , but revolves around political disagreements in Turkey , leading to the introduction of Sharia , as per the demands of Democracy and hence bloodshed . Where the pro-American so democratic elements might not secure all the airbases , or will merely need a "bomb-minivan" to terraform mountains to dust and gravel . Skoshi Tiger proved the F-5 was ideal for dodging machine gun fire from the ground , but a bombtruck it ain't . Averted by the lack of appreciation at the grandeur of the Saudis at the time combined with Hanoi's plans for economic development that "risked" South and thus replaced with issues in Cyprus , where EOKA were equally ready to kill Turks , local or deployed from the "mainland" .

so cutting it short ,
ı find it insulting when it's Brits who come up with the 250 number , promising to replace the golden calf , the matchless Footpad aka F-35 before it violates the sacred soil of my country and reverse immediately that it was invented from the backside of the Turks who think they will buy that many . And then the poor man's aspect ... If you believe anyone , this country will be conquering Andromeda , the galaxy , by 2030 , what good an IRST will do for our exportable "F-22" ? What's this humility , what happened to Turkey Stronk !! ı think ı saw like 90% of all episodes of Madmen and can somewhat guess who are the target audience . Do not come unless it has Klingon cloaking and goes faster than light , if your manliness makes you misunderstand cease and desist .
 
"
A Government which won its entire election campaign on the development of an indigenous fighter and development of the Turkish Aerospace sector. $44 billion has been allocated for this program." is a thing makes jaws drop , or not ... And it was online for all to see on February 13 , 2017 . Am about 45 myself and remember a few elections and not a single one where some Party declared it would create a fighter aircraft for the nation and there was an uproar and the nation loved the dare , the bravery , the heroism and voted for that Party .


oh-kay , let's remember the last two ... Both in 2015 . In the first , the seperatists' "Kurdish" party betrayed the Goverment . For those who don't know there's a Counter-revolution in my country aiming to destroy the last vestiges of the Republic established in 1923 . While its members are hazy to see , let's say the Goverment / Party , the Congregation that attempted to overthrow the Party in the Disgrace of July 15th and the seperatists have long accused of being partners . Up to 2010/11 - when the Arab Spring created new venues of "growth" , leading to a fall-out between the Party and the Congregation . The seperatists , sometimes fighting , sometimes playing along with both sides , made great strides during the dismantling of the Republic . Yeah , this is entirely on topic . For the seperatists felt they had bargained for far too little in the deals for the federation that would replace this country and refused to create the conditions for constitutional changes that would protect the political leadership from courts of 2020s , when people might have woken up to what had transpired . The party failed to win enough votes for Majority , they played for time while sabotaging talks for a coalition government . It's the Official position of the State that the Congregation then had two policemen murdered , to create a negative situation to hurt the Party .

in the name of "Peace" , a NATO army had surrendered whole towns to the seperatists . They were practically levelled to the ground while taken back . ISIL of course eagerly joined the troubles . In one particular case , the Police was warned that a political rally might be attacked ; and the Police did its best to protect its personnel from attack while the suicide bombers were totally unhindered in the attack . The dead , the wounded , the bewildered people trying to help and the police entering the square . The Leftists do not much like the Police , the protests immediately begun and the Police "naturally" used tear gas in the "usual" amounts . There are claims at least 3 people , lying wounded on the ground choked to death . The Leftists "naturally" feel that was intentional , far too many editorials have been written in newspapers debating whether the Prime Minister of the time really threatened Kurdish voters with Death Squads . The second elections led to a majority vote for the Party .

and maybe a word on those who might use this "Turkish" fighter in the decades to come . There was one weird case of the son-in-law of the then commander of air , himself an pilot officer and an attachee to NATO , was beaten by the Kuwaiti attache and other diplomats in Ankara . Out of anger at the Congregation's supposed delaying of a full invasion of Syria . The Arab "diplomats" though said , through discrete channels , that the son-in-law had taken them for perverts and the lot . Some old school people already have been mentioned around ; it appears their womenfolk , wives if young , daughters , granddaughters , have been listed for "distribution" . So , according to the claims , the son-in-law offers the Arabs any of them they might like , when the Congregation is done destroying the country and so having made them all widows and the like . No , we are really on topic . The reputation of those old guys , being bad when necessary , is far too much it seems . Then comes the Disgrace of July 15th , and the son-in-law is commanding the coup's air strikes . Rumours have been released that the second wave of the F-16s could not take off when it was heard which civilian houses would be now "accidentally" hit . Unclear whether the US Embassy directly intervened after wild rumours of commandos massing around Incirlik to "accidentally" secure the nukes , whether ground crews discovered this was a Congregation plot to overthrow their enemies and not a real coup of the Army or whether the systems were hacked , through software backdoors which had been installed by the Americans before delivery . As said rumours . The son-in-law got beaten again , and thus paraded on TV . Not to win hearts and minds some old retirees , but the guy had noticed they had done much damage to the Parliament but nothing had happened to the Palace and had the last bomb there , out of the gardens ...
 
this is the basis the PR campaign of the UK aerospace industry is starving and needs the work .
ı am happy it was averted , that how mothers can't buy milk for their babies in the UK . Such things lead to trouble , a previous belief in unbroken success has led to hundreds of thousands of dead Syrians . Trust no one , trust nothing ; but trust me on this . If it's Black today , tomorrow it will surely be White . At least the country will get a new Space Agency , if that's what it takes , declared by Monday night ... And some heroic pictures from the battles in Syria , in which an unit that suffered in the conspiracies of yesterdays is pictured with a joke "in" French , as if to prove there are still French "owned" parts of the now extinct Turkish Armed Forces and Anglosaxons do not dominate all . And if they had 44 billions , it would be already distributed in contracts to the companies that support the Party ... It's no accident the talks in the Gulf are about scrapping a couple of billions of dollars to suit the new American Administration's wishes that America will not pay for "crusades" but will help for the proper amount of money .
 
the phrase "NATO General" is practically an insult in Turkish , every single person who is one declares others are , while he is the biggest Patriot evah . Some pinnacle of it was the 1974 affair where the plans were "changed" in the last minute and the Airborne landings were moved "sidewise" or something to that end and the already-on-the-ground "pathfinders" were to take position in an other location . Which was already occupied by the elements of a Greek Commando Battalion , waiting in ambush and that was already known in Ankara , but they did not deign to tell that to the "pathfinders" . Nor the idea that the the change was not "effected" ; it would be very lonely with all those Greeks awaiting . The plans were indeed to be changed but the commander of the Amphibious Infantry who was trained in the US by the Marines (after verified information that he was not one of the "pathfinders") resisted and convinced his immediate superiors in the Task Force . Last minute changes would bring chaos ; even if he failed to make the first waves Tank-heavy and this might have cost maybe 100 , maybe 200 lives , quite a honour of the operation "failing" to be a massive defeat belongs to that guy . The "pathfinders" of course didn't exactly report back that they had already seen the Greeks entrenching in the new location . Which would indeed be taken only a month later .


not to be fazed by the NATO generals is then some requirement ; and the arrogance can be utterly mystifying . The NATO General in charge will of course call them dogs of America but there's a practical limit to that . If dogs of America hiss at the sight of an American , how can the NATO General explain his closeness to any American idea , after so many insults ? It becomes other countries and this also becomes banal over the years . Finally , after long years of the economic reforms of Özal , some of those "pathfinders" are reported to be talking to some Fund . ı know it's utterly boring but 1980s made good progress in areas . Most of it centred around wholesale robbery of the State assets and the "Imaginary" Exports . You sign papers with some company you claim that exists in a foreign country and you claim to export stuff , depending on your taste , textiles , fruit , whatever . The State gives you financial awards , a percentage of the value of your exports , and you naturally pass a hefty share to officials as bribes and support the Islamization and the like of the country , and spend the rest on "movie stars" if you are that big a hero of the economic boom . So much tax payer money changes hands that all those people start to love the title of Industrialist and they establish real factories and economy then skyrockets or something . This is time when people would be going to American , Italians , Japanese , anyone , to create a functional economy to break the cycle ... As an example Western textile manufacturers might fail to compete with the cheap labour of Country A . They need to replace their machinery and so they sell it all to Country B with legal cover , while Country A is hindered by all those qoutas . B bankrupts A , while the new machines in the Western countries will soon swamp B as soon as the quotas are now applied to B as well . Trust me , those people would know how Egypt got to build the largest vacuum tube factory in the world as transistors were just about to swamp the market . Boring ı know but NATO Generals now can call people dogs of big companies , management funds ...

totally relevant for apparently those guys are now accused of having a trillion dollars . Elsewhere on the web , am better known as an Admiral of the Starfleet and for my escapades with Klingon Spacemarine chicks but this is related to a similarly utterly long and boring post of mine . Relevance ? You see , it's now leaked that two big city mayors were practically taken hostage by the so called National Intelligence Service during the recent economic downturn and they had to bring a combined billion US dollars of their "savings" in offshore accounts to the country . This New Turkey , the greatest newest wonder of the world , can be totally wrecked or something with spending 50 million dollars in the stockmarket afterall . Bear with me as these mayors are the best of the Party . Say , the one ruling Ankara has never lost an election , with his expertise in voting fraud . It's simply a question of the disputes between the Gulf Arabs , who are slated to be biggest winners of the eventual destruction of the Turkish Republic , as far as S.Arabia or Qatar knows ... The situation after the Disgrace of July 15th allows the Goverment to confiscate any wealth , company , whatever by charging the owners of Terrorism and no proof is ever required . The New Turkey is not afraid of Russia , Israel , UK , UN or US ; it doesn't even fear Allah or the Judgement Day , if there was a trillion dollars they would take it ... Nobody has a trillion dollars .

but every penny could help . After disregarding the Republic and whatever it might have spawned for so long , Ankara fears stuff might go pearshaped . After having this fall-out with their brothers in the Congregation they are looking for anything . As said elsewhere they were to pay wages to any grandmother that looks after her grandchildren , aprroximately one third of the minimum wage . Naturally for the referandum in April . Has been cut short . The 11 millon retirees in the country to get a one time bonus from the banks , naturally for the referandum in April and cut short , with banks suddenly demanding extra accounts opened by the retirees . Amazing , with all the successes , the New Turkey can not spend a mere billion dollars as an election bribe . Even the State visit to the Gulf appears to have ended in failure . Operations in Syria need to be expanded , no doubt for the referandum in April , but the oil rich Arabs refuse to pay the bill and the country is assured that the farcical King of White House will make them pay .
 
as you have guessed , if you are still reading , that 44 Billions the Goverment has set aside for producing 250 spankin' new combat aircraft ... The Key Forums has refused my applications to join to or three times in the last decade , ı don't know why , now that everybody seems to be allowed there . The company account , last time ı checked , has deduced no one is biting and has now modified that 44 into R&D money the Goverment will surely spend . Obviously after some guy can't believe that this country will be financing airplane purchases of godforsaken places like UK or Germany ... It reverts to "I didn't say that" and a great chance of collaboration goes down the drain ... The EU goes and finds them Turks and makes them pay and Germany can get free F-22 Lites as a favour . Just don't read that people has 44 billions somehow , somewhere . Even 44 cents can go a long way to contribute to our never doubted great future ... To buy a vote .
 
come on admit it , you don't know anyone else who has to prove that he doesn't have a trillion US Dollars by default . The heads of people there would explode , if ı was to post this over there ; you know ı can always offer the context ...

so , the final part of what ı didn't really want to post there :

so much for politics , now that this is a planes website . We had this spectacular vista of co-producing planes for the RAF . Useless losers in Key Forums laughed at that . We were then offered the prospects of massive sales to European countries like Germany . Because as you know the only situation they might ever actually need a F-22 Clone is when they are bombing us to establish a nation state for the Kurds . That's only if the farcical King of White House is busy elsewhere , writing Muslim Ban XXVIII and hence forgetting to release USAF on the task . Then it becomes how we Turks are disrespected , with how people would think the Turks could never do a Stealth ship . Am a Starfleet Admiral , ı ride a Stealth shuttle to Moon twice a week !

then a great breakthrough , armed trainer , best in the world and will be bought in numbers , a full 100 of them . You know , back in the day when the Congregation was so busy destroying the country , they were similarly active and they promised , similarly through the Media , as their people might have been thrown out of windows in an uncharacteristically Turkish way of hospitality , that they had the blueprints of the PC-21 in a bank safe ... Turns out they didn't ? Now that they are now accused of marketing the Air Tractor or whatever instead , traitors attempting to sell an American design to fight our Kurdish brothers or to that effect . Guess what , the Air International article on the type has the very same set up , some IR /TV ball with Cirit missiles . Let's just avoid how the very first application of lazer guidance was 70mm rockets and the like in the 1970s . By the US Army , my dear translators who hate me so throughly . Told it would take a full year to tell , but anyhow .

and it's kinda personal , too . ı was not 15 years old when my brother went to the Parachute Camp of the Air League or whatever the it is translated as and brought back some magazines . Already a plane-nut , ı was much interested in an article on the Dromader . Agricultural plane with a prop in front and obviously still in production in the "modern" 1980s with jets everywhere . Would always feel like seeing an old friend whenever a Dromader was overhead and as the fighting flared up and intensified in the Southeast , ı would spend some time on thinking whether an armed Dromader would do any good . Remember , any single war movie you could see on the Turkish TV could only be about WW II , where there were all sorts of Spitfires and the like ...

loved it to learn ı wasn't the only one . Let's see , the people read a lot and have considered Vietnam quite a bit , they know the value of aerial application of firepower and plainly it's obvious that it will be needed . Some plane that does not exactly need a supply line dependent on the whims of Washington and all our allies ... Nothing fancy , just an observation platform that can keep an eye , at least when contact is established and guide in Phantoms . Which are known to truly hurt a lot in places like Vietnam when they do not miss by miles . Let's also avoid a discussion of how suitable a Dromader is for armour plating . The IR suppression stuff was cited as Israeli , when the Americans discovered what was afoot , though actually "copied" from the P-47 so much loved by one guy's daddy and mummy . As the story goes . Add cool air to hot exhaust and let them mix , if you can not outrun a SA-7 . P-47 had lots of volume , right ? A good one to imitiate . As were the wing guns and their structural supports . Had it flown it would be half a ton overweight , but hey , who cares ? Apparently came to the point of asking the extra set of jigs from the Poles ; in case you don't know they had engineers kept safe in Ankara for the WW II to end and ı think they all went to Canada when the Commies took over in Warsaw .

this forum is capable of truly stressing that it's fanboi literature to claim all that prop nonsense in the 1980s , including the ever lovely PZL 230 Scorpions (*) come after that . Am the first one to say everybody knows every thing better then us Turks afterall .

anyhow , with situation getting worse , the F-16 factory just getting into stride and hating the illicit grandson of the Jug and yet not daring to risk further stuff , Americans offer the Cobra , you know the 4 blader in due course . So , an Army depot starts producing Hueys , gearing up for Whiskeys initially , as soon as practical . What did the patriotic company do ? Despite the Washington induced 2 year delay into the overall situation they barged in and told everyone listening that the Mürted factory was the pride of the country and done by the money of the poor people of the country and that the attack helicopter programme should be put at the end of the F-16 run to serve the country . When the time came , they then turned incredibly anti-American and insisted they were to get us and we needed a fully indigenous computer system on the thing . OK , do one and put aside , we will rip the entire innards out when it becomes necessary to actually fight Americans anyhow ? No , they go and ask Americans to give them the software ; can't tell the exact term , but something to that end . And what happens when it really turns out that the America will really field the Zulu ? They go and buy Italian . That's some 100 helicopters never built by now and think how many seperatists they might have killed already .

so , we have the best anti-tank plane of the world , NOW . And guess what , it gets even better . The referandum is presented as the final fight between the good and the evil . A party leader has termed it as the Sakarya of this second war of liberation ; any historian might figure out how many Army officers might well die if the vote comes as a No ... Civil war is bandied by a Party official one day , he is sacked on the second day to clear the name of the Party and yet another Party official says Atatürk is not a Turk , for being born in a city now in Greece . On the third day . Armed drones have long been a thing , it was all over the newspapers that a Predator went after an Iraqi Foxbat with a Stinger in 1993 or 94 . The glorious Turkish aviation industry is of course doing the very best of them , starting armament tests and the like this last year , because the chief engineer who was to marry the daughter of a certain politician had to be polished for PR purposes . Fielding an armed drone say in 2004 would do no good ? Because , the son of an Islamist funder was , ı don't know , in high school ? Ah yes , there might soon be a requirement to kill Turks , soon . The Sunni brothers in the United Arab Emirates have the Tractors , what's the point of PC-21s ? Sunni brothers in the United Arab Emirates will come and lend a hand in killing Turks , once they figure out that their attempts to sell apartments to our grandkids on Mars by 2117 are lying just next to the proposal of Elon Musk in the trashcan .

ah yes , typically overblown r16 for ya ...
 
(*) the time when the Polish Ambrassador to Ankara suggested the entire project could be turned over to the company , on the cheap , after the fall of the Iron Curtain , can be gauged by an article in a Turkish language edition of a Mönch publication . Engineers in the F-16 factory , in their spare time , design a cheap COIN type plane . It even uses a Chevrolet V8 engine , because it has massive export potential and it must be designed around what can be found . The sweat of the poor villager who pays his taxes is as sacred as mother's milk to nurse the babies , it can't be wasted in pointless expenditure . Never heard of it afterwards , except one case . Possibly in the Secret Projects Forum , ı think it was the Sadler company . ı don't how many of those engineers had a share in that ; the thread strangely had no reference of how it was designed in Ankara , between patriotic hours spent on F-16s ... On the other hand USAF was itching to get rid of the A-10 and it looked like we might get some . With proper delays . And it was down to paying some 200 million dollars for 50 planes , with no other costs . Yeah , sure enough an economic crisis , right on cue .

and yes , nary a word on how a guy who had his daughter marry a son of the PM is reportedly organizing an anti-coup militia , "armed" and currently training on quadcopters . Or how the aerial branch of the Army of Petrol has wondrously solved its pilots crisis . The world standart is to have "1.5 pilots per seat" and this will be achieved by 2019 , not 2026 and not just because yours idiotly considered they had more planes they could possibly ever need anyhow .
 
ı don't know , which is more sad , or sadder if one strives for accuracy , my wasted life , that no one ever laughs at what ı say but they all laugh at what ı don't say , that all the "translators" think they are begged at for their mercy and the lot or ı don't know , this military fetishism that's getting so much widespread these days ? Yeah , for the last , ı have read all budding fascist countries need to have some . For manliness requires either scoring in bed or smashing heads and the second turns dangerous when the "partner" does not feel like submitting . Then it becomes posturing ; like all those "National and Local" systems that so suddenly sprout out . You see , the New Turkey was enslaved by the Jewhish and then the traitorous Congregation . Once freed , there is this flood of creativity ... And yeah , it turns out the company account received some reminders that everything the New Turkey has been designing out of the blue was actually designed elsewhere .

and of course , when they run out such glorious inventions they turn to personal achievements ! Like the story of the first Turk in Stratosphere ! This guy seems to be a businessman , apparently has even completed a round the world trip , now that any long range Boeing or Airbus can do 10K kilometers runs on scheduled trips . We also hear he is a civvie and airlines do not climb that high . Because the Stratosphere begins from 10 000 meters up and all the gloriously glorious people in the aerial branch of the Army of Petrol can be like feeling insulted . Anyhow , we see the guy getting seated in a MiG . It has to be a MiG because the breathless reporting mentions Nijni Novgorod , or whatever and am seriously confused , the wing seems smoother than the Foxbat's ... See , the Russians began selling Mach 2+ joyrides to Western enthuasists in the 1990s to make some money to pay the salaries and it was all over the magazines of the day . Wait , the reporting says MiG-29 , oh-kay , my fault , should have remembered that Fulcrums had also joined the business , ı like should have remembered from the 2000s . The guy in the view just carries the standart outfit of fast jets , crash helmet , standart oxygen mask yet we hear he was wearing special clothes , because let's see the ground temperature was minus 27 centigrades on a typically sunny Russian midwinter day but was minus 60 or so at 30 kilometers up . You know , because am so jealous ı will instantly remember reading a book with a passage that deals with the death of an American training to be a test pilot . He was driving an F-104 and he "really" went to 30 kilometers high in a zoom climb and there was a gap between his glove and the rest of the pressure suit ; he was totally knocked out in that mere 5 minutes or so and crashed to his death . But then we all know while anybody would have to have a "full" astronaut outfit for such heights , the people of New Turkey could do it , shirts and shorts . ı don't know why he didn't crack the canopy open and go out for a walk ...

and because they have a full 10 minutes or ı don't know maybe 20 slated for such greatness , they need more "news" for the night . Turns out an airliner from India loses radio contact with the air traffic control and Luftwaffe scrambles jets , probably Eurofighters by the look of their contrails . ı don't know what this proves , that the Germans will shoot down airliners on "technicalities" , that their fighter planes' HUD systems can record beautiful images of planes and clouds in full colour or the heroic German Air Forces scares the hell out of UFOs . 'Cause you see there is a full two minutes of claims of people seeing an UFO moving in the clouds and we too are advised to look for it . And yet with no arrows or circles to show us where this elusive invader from outer space is ... See , space aliens who can abduct whole planes are so scared of a fighter jet which would fail to tow a saucer on the airfield if the saucer dude put the parking brake on . And the dumb German Air Force fails to notice the UFO in the clouds and releases it to public comsuption . There are a series of from-the-cockpit photos of an F-15 test firing a Sparrow , with the pilot in view wearing those fashionable orange flight suits from the 1970s . The only time ı saw it in video format was in a "documentary" where they had photoshopped or whatever this cigar UFO into the view , to let us see how weapons do not work against UFOs .

the end ? Of course , not . The day after ı buy the newspaper and read the first Turkish cosmonaut testing the facilities of a nearby airfield . You see , he has flown his Cessna Caravan there from Istanbul , in 14 minutes . ı still have this image in my mind . Of what must have been a DC-9 there , like when ı was 5 years old or something , the runway definitely looks long enough ... Wait , kozmonot ? He claims to be the fastest Turk ever , ı think he is not the guy that went up in that MiG , you know, to Space , either . And ı think ı would surely remember if there was any news of people paying that 20 million bucks that would take people up to orbit from Baikonur ... The newspaper is from a different media group then the TV channel ; are they fighting over who's manlier ? And people do laugh at me .

but then it can't be specifically about me . ı have seen so few of those journos . Only one of them ever considered me a total risk to the Counter-Revolution , because ı had a few an-Uncle-of-an-Uncle's sons of high rank with the Congregation and was somewhat utterly incredibly "married" to a 10 000£ a night rentable from the UK and if discovered the Jewhish press would make it heard and the elections would go wrong and ı was just about to be admonished to stop all that ; ı don't know , perhaps by stopping her posing in the 1990s by slapping her in the 2000s . Otherwise they all took the zoo trip to see yours idiotly dejectedly walking home after another day in the webcafe . Everybody claims ı specifically attempt to bring down only them and they , being heros the moment they were born , defeat my evilocity to undo them , because you know , they are heroes . And yes , they naturally can not agree who is a bigger and more loyal supporter of the PM . Because when all power is concentrated in one individual , people can concentrate on being lackeys to that single person and remove all others . They all know each other , they have preached morals together for decades and they all know they hardly have any morals . There can only be one , and Highlanders is such a fitting theme . Of the movies , ı think ı like only one , with Sean Connery . It's so awesomely obvious that they can't even bring themselves to act as a wolfpack anymore . With referandum in view , some open headed women has of course attacked a head scarved girl ; some businesslady from the Ottoman family naturally wants her ancestors' islands and treasures back and Leftist artists quickly figured out to refer her in some sexual overtones , now the massive majority of the country had already dismissed her as a lackey . So , "Muslims" go and start a fire in front of a Leftist theatre , just before the surprise visit of McCain to Ankara . The guy of course loves the secular Kurds who fight the evil ISIL . So some journo's house gets shot at ; this proves who the rightful are and McCain should not get any misconceptions . And not a single TV studio stops the regular programme , except the one where the journo is the biggest fish . Actually disbelief in the eyes of some "Kurdish" intellectual in a debate , after he finishes his rant on how our Saudi brothers are soooooo mistrusted after some Zionist trick and he checks his cellphone and stuff ...

and yeah , now that there's a possibility that they will all turn on me when they run out of traitors to blame and they never look in the mirror while looking for traitors , let me correct the post above . The militia organizer had his daughter marry the son of the PM and they insist they won't have weapons but use sirens ; "silah" and "siren" conceivably sounding close enough to mistake one for the other . Otherwise usual as usual ; with the economy writers either of high expectations that there can be money to loot and they be given a share or writing not exactly clear stuff on the baloney aspect of all . We hear the attempts to bring in Bill Clinton or the spineless jerk himself into the Board of this National and Local fund is just a balloon , not to be taken seriously . Actually , it's all about the "fact" that Putin or the Saudis "have" an US President in their pay and Ankara badly wants to have one , too , so that they can also brag about it . Imagine it , spineless jerk or Bill himself getting a salary of a couple of millions a year , just to convince the Turks that everything is good .
 
and of course there are the elections everywhere , with a massive spat with the Dutch ...

so , what's up ? Trouble in the projects in the back street . Built in the 70s these are apartments , in 42 blocks , 380 odd flats or something if ı am not mistaken . Some company wants to take them down and build a new . The talk is the local "chief" , a woman living there and talking for the "renovation" , will get two free flats for her efforts . The company can afford it , tearing down 5 flat high buildings they will have 7 or maybe 11 high . So much "excessive" gardens left is result of the "state controlled mindset" of the past - so trimming here and there maybe 700 , maybe 1000 new flats , who knows ? Apparently quite a bit of the denizens are not exactly happy , but there are always the laws of the country that think people foremost ; all it will take a goverment survey to declare the buildings old , hence dangerous in case of an earthquake . Not yet there though , the company is set to organize a meeting in the nearby park as this is written at home on the 18th of March . They are bringing in an expert in such projects and he will teach people the ways of living healthy . No doubt the advice will include new scientific discoveries on how old buildings are health hazards of all kinds . ı think ı am pleasantly surprised to hear the guy also advised that they should not sign anything , especially when people they don't know appear at the door with a paper ...

well , there is the historical fact , people flock to the cities and people need to replace the old buildings and construction is a venue of employment for the unqualified . As ı certainly was , when my late father used to build houses . 5 or 6 "masters" to lay the bricks and prepare the woodwork to carry the cement to be poured as the roof , mortar /plaster work as required ; we could actually do it from basement to the roof and had a reputation for "quality" . And two "workers" , including yours idiotly , basically to carry stuff from here to there . And justifiably regularly dressed down by my late father for my slovenliness and sloppy work , too . And of course everybody would want to live in the city instead of farming which does not pay good enough and is so much dependent on the vagaries of the weather . A possibility of better education for the kids , better health coverage , stuff am yet to think of . Urbanization is a 'ing human right . And what happens in Turkey ? 300 to 500 new flats mean 200 to 300 new cars and where are they going to put them ? And the municipality insists on like rebuilding entire neighbourhoods on a 50% increase in permits . All this glorious New Turkey knows is building new apartments , a moment will come and the bubble will burst and it will be all familiar ; apparently some company further down the projects reached the end of the rope and sold their newest flats to 3 people each and run off with the money ; they were bankrupt anyway . Nobody expects them caught before they spend the loot entirely anyhow .

the bubble wil burst one day all the economists say that and why the insistence ? Because the Party is the party of Business and everybody builds houses because it pays better than trying to compete with the Chinese or whatever ; the Chinese would kick their backsides if they were allowed to build houses here as well , too . When the economic crisis comes the people will have to sell their houses to pay the debts and there will be no one to buy them , economists tell us . And why the economic crisis does not happen , as we should have had at least 5 major ones by now , each and every single one of them capable of bringing down the A-K-P ? Not just because some Goverment spokesperson talks and shouts and insults whomever comes to mind and the exchange ratio of the US Dollar to the Turkish Lira surges . The moment Dollar owners come and buy bonds on the cheap . The same Goverment spokesperson cools down , the nicest guy in the world and the people on the economy channels tell us this is the way economy should be handled . The ratio now falls . The latest episode when the evil West was trying to bring down the gloriously heroic Goverment which had gloriously defeated the Disgrace of July 15th , the calculation on the Voice of Russia was that the Dollar owners would gain 12% on their money . That would be merely 6% if the Goverment had not invented a "crisis" out of the blue . As said , not just that .

there have be more houses , which have to be filled and people kept on the move . Many of the village mores are BS , but they form a cohesion , bonds within people . When in the cities they are maybe kept the same , maybe transformed into others , but living like 20 years in one place create "neighbourliness" . You know people , people know you , there's bound to be some respect , right ? When one guy thinks something is wrong you just don't shout him down , let alone shoot him down . The Potemkim facade of the New in Turkey will not survive long enough , despite the lullabies of the last 2 or 3 decades that it would be forever or for just one more month . Those smart people think they are filling their pockets with money , but their foreign masters love the breaking up the "bonds" . They have had their experience , the stupid Turkish Nations , those who vote Left or Right come together when the moment of "reckoning" comes and stop killing each other . Instead of keeping on the blood feud and realising the well laid out plans .

plus the houses are needed , for the "humane" ethnic cleansing the US conducts . Yes , it has global application : When all the people leave the rural areas and flood the cities , there will be no one left to compete with the American corn . Not a single more word on the destitude and poverty of the American farmer in the 70s . There's no escape from it , the lovely genetically modified stuff . You order pizza and say no corns , no mushrooms and they will be on it anyhow , because treating r16 as an idiot is a must . ı unfortunately had like 7 or 8 years of university education on top of the 12 or so of "normal" for a student and Turkey was one of the 7 countries that could feed itself on its own for all that time . If we were to cross the West for real now , half the country would be starving next year . Plus the oft qouted geostrategic importance of the country . Every single person that moves to the West of the country on his /her own is one less person to be driven out by the Kurds when they achieve their nation state . Kurds move to the Western Turkey instead of fighting ? Why , nobody loves or wants them for long anyhow .

the Middle East will be depopulated , and no charges of anti-Semitism here ; they are bound to be handled at the very end if you are familiar with the refrain of 12 thousand saved each from the 12 tribes . The "humane" aspect of all that cleansing is that those who run this at the very top want an escape option for all those Arabs . Which ı recognize as a basic tenet of African warfare , let them a route to run and they won't fight to the death ; Kunta Kinte (for those who can't remember Roots at once) is an hell of a novel . The maniacal housing spree creates more space than conceivably required ; the Syrian refugees who are not officially called refugees to deny them their rights might soon be given citizenship or maybe not . The American GreenCard is set to be imitiated . ı fail to see any Dutch or German or whomever wanting to enjoy the benefits of this country with the entanglements ... So the main beneficiaries will be our Sunni Brothers . As a ruling class , too . It's hardly surprising that a popular spot for the affluent Arabs coming to the city is the hill that reportedly contains the housing for the families of the Intelligence , easily securable in case of mobs . One dude reportedly having 5 seperate Air Conditioners for 200 square meters or so . Never been out of the country but ı know we are in the Temperate Zone or something .

is the unfortunate reader of this thread like "What the hell?" We are really discussing the West is so tolerant of the all conquering New Turkey ...
 
which is like so offended by the barbaric use of horses by the Dutch Police that a riding club wants the Last Prime Minister to allow them to ride , you know , to the Netherlands . If this was indeed an age of Horse Cavalry , you wouldn't see a single of them behind you , after you sat on your saddle and checked the yatagan and counted the bow and the arrows and turned back to order them to march . Much bragging at the stupid Europeans panicking at the news that 15000 refugees a month could be released on their way to Asylum . Not a single hair of theirs can be tickled by the footage that was released of the refugees behind bars in Hungary ; or the odd case of people gunned in the Red Sea by an Apache , no doubt one of our Sunni brothers . The guy uttering this is the one who liberated the studios of the TıRT , the so called national TV channel at the coup . Where "the whitest person they could find" had the rotational duty to anchor the news at night and she was forced to read the communique and the mobs like waited for the Goverment Minister to shave , because all the Europeans would see that some blonde saved by those who loved Democracy and the very single other woman was like covered from head to toe , a "Müslime" with the added sight of the Turkish flag draped across . Lest there be no mistake on who now owned the flag ... Yeah , he has now has the moustache as ordered by the PM . The times of looking acceptable to the West is long past .

it's the time of looking unacceptable to the West , which of course somehow fits the policies of the West . Do not bother too much to understand the difference . It happenz , they turned over whole towns to the seperatists , won them a referandum . Then levelled whole neighbourhoods fighting the same , won them an election . The seperatists of course claim their peaceful Stalingrads , Kobanes-in-the-making were levelled to the benefit of construction companies , to build new houses . ı really hate it when the seperatists might have an arguable point ; the Little Imperialist , being a well travelled man , was talking of re-building the areas in the shape of Toledo of Spain , no doubt with some Arabesque stuff the Spainards have kept for the looks . Historic looking bricks are no doubt more profitable for the companies that produce them , right ? Newer Kurds to be settled there will no doubt be of the Sunni variety . But not for the referandum , Kurds are traitors these days , even if the tax-payers in the West still cover the electricity bills unpaid in the East . Business is business and while it's OK to bash heads for votes , it might hurt brotherly feelings to leave our Kurdish brother in the dark for he hasn't paid a dime in the last decade , claiming the electricity he uses is produced by the turbines on his rivers , unjustly stolen by us . All the Turkish flag waving will inevitably result in reforms that increase the powers of local authorities . Can't tell whether it was like 2000 soldiers and policemen killed in re-taking those neighbourhoods and towns , but ı sure can tell it will be all in vain .

oh yes , in Turkey it's flag waving instead of hand waving and it's all because none of us look like Toydarians . Nobody can ever convince a smartie to think maybe he/she is not as smart as he/she thinks .

oh , are you whimpering , the Dutch , the Dutch ? Was of the opinion that Ankara took them as suckers ; especially after it turned out they were the biggest European investors in Turkey or something . Or that the trade balance was 725 million $ in our favour . Which would totally explain why the A-K-P would want a crisis to wreck it all . Turns out ı knew nothing at all , as usual . Well , being old pals we are , my country and the Netherlands have an old trade deal where the tax on stuff is 10 % , while all the other countries work on a 20% stuff . So every single dude who wants to trade with Turkey opens an office up there and pockets the surplus . Am some serious Star Wars fan and even love the prequels . Not because who stars in it , like because they are actually good and have also been on the record that the Trade Federation is not exactly loosely based on the Dutch of 1600s and stuff ? Get a couple of Naboo Starfighters and shall we see whether proton torpedos make people go wow with a nicely awesome ka-boom or something ? ı will even learn Jar Jar speak , so please ? Of course , no ... Some Goverment Minister from the New school of Turkish economy is on TV . Whenever he speaks you should expect a litany of how the West robbed this country before and now can't and since they are organizing coups against Ankara . Yeah , he says this is a political thing and nothing will be done economically . And only because everybody loves being on TV and what he said must be covered in mere 10 seconds because people might doubt his entire narrative and yet he wants at least 30 seconds ... He also says it's not a good idea to pay grandmothers for looking after grandkids . You see , the New Turkey chooses people from a list of applicants and pays them taxpayer money for stuff they are doing already . The New Turkey is transfer of wealth to "Muslims" from those who are not "Muslim" enough and keeping that going on as long as possible with stories on how the "Muslims" are the best and scare anybody else .
 
still don't understand a thing ? Take the laws . Some company in Istanbul has the awesomest project , which will be better if some old blocks are torn down . So they are unsafe to live , as you would expect . That they are mere 10 or 11 years old doesn't change a thing , everybody in Turkey knows companies are thieves . So they make a grand show , invite some Goverment Minister to press the button and all the dynamites and explosives they have placed will go bang ... Naturally the weak apartment , despite losing the lower floors , simply collapses in mostly one piece and the Goverment Minister beats it . Let people rant about it , the "rant" is safe .

every single NATO country had its own version of Gladio and fought the godless Commies with varieties of the same . Ours was unique only in we were a Muslim majority country and when the go ahead was given the Congregation started picking the finest kids of the Right , promising their parents an education they could never provide on their on . The first batch were good on their own and were placed in places where they could do stuff . No operation of this kind ever needs too many smart people . Afterall their origins lie in the Atomic Age , where the American warplanners foresaw they would lack enough numbers of nukes to bring down the Reds immediately . So they would fight a campaign of some two years ; nuking this and that and inserting Freedom Fighters by parachute to hinder recovery . And delaying the insertion of the Russian Fury into the Battle . This was something , as aptly experienced by all those good old Nazis , who also crewed the entire command network heartfully , on behalf of their good friends the Americans .

and of course not a single of the Freedom Fighter was told he was supposed to be dropped on a nuclear attack site as a fire-and-forget weapon . To be fully irradiated in the process , all one can do is killing as many Commies he can because they will tear him into tiny little strips if they catch him alive . Yeah , really no need for too many bright people . There was this Russian somewhere else on the web , surprised by this legendary issue of Colliers of 1950s . Where these blue blooded American magazine writers are so fed up with them Russkies that they write up a whole war plan to show them Commies the way to hell ... ı think it was a staple of Russian schools before the Wall fell and apparently this Russian's grandfather was himself a magazine editor , sacked for being too lenient on Western culture . Was naturally in , only thing ı might have added as new was the meaning of ODESSA , the supposed Nazi organization that moved the SS to Argentina . You know , it's more about the port city of Odessa , the capital to be of the Nazi Ukraine when the WW III happened and American bombers flattened the Commies by all means possible . The guy really took down all the jpg files he had posted , adding he didn't like conspiracies . Am thinking to mention the e-book ı trawled from the net that assures me that the Colliers magazine article was the actual American war plan . With all the juicy stuff on how the Nazis fooled the Americans to believe that the Ukrainians were so much freedom loving that if America dropped 1200 instructors and leaders on par with the actions of the SOE and stuff of WW II some 370 000 rebels would be kicking the Red Army within months . All quickly forgotten when the Russians had their nuclear deterrent up and running . For the completeness of the record let's keep in mind that the EU itself was founded on the re-established rapport of France and the Germany after the under-reported yet fulsome contribution of the Nazis in the Foreign Legion and the lot to the endless colonial wars of Paris .
 
yet the second principle of Gladio , killing Commies for home security , or rather the protection of the American business interests require the full infiltration of the state mechanisms . We seen there has to be a glass ceiling for really smart guys and this conflicts with the capture of the State . If given a choice with halfway smart and fully dumb , whom to choose so that your office can work and you as the manager do not get sacked ? So , when the glorious Congregation was up and running , their first act was stealing the university exam questions , of ı think 1974 . By eliminating opposition by not letting the decent win , they acquire the positions by default ... The end result is the dumbing of the State , by ever increasing numbers of people who are not allowed to fail , so get even more smug . And bolder , because they are the God's chosen . They have an answer to everything and if they fail , America will come and remove the stone , the barrier on their path . As more generations come in , the people forgot what they are and start to believe it's actually them who made all that happen .

let's say the infiltration of the Congregation was unstoppable , because they mimicked the "Jews" , the secret rulers of the world , who pulled all the strings and made all the puppets move . And covered their tracks with all means possible . There are entire libraries full of books on how that system is supposed to work . Congregation did everything they might have accused the people of Tevrat doing . They infiltrated , they told lies , they covered it with outright lies . And what happened ? They simply failed right at the moment everything was theirs . There's rather more to competence than backstabbing . And now that this was the way to success it becomes the standart . As yours idiotly was writing this very paragraph , the leader of the almost racists was on the radio , declaring that the referandum will pass and it will signal the end of the Monarchies of Europe and the regimes there will be toppled .

because his awesome successes as the 5th wheel of A-K-P was beginning to raise suspicion and some female aide of his was slated to replace him . Unpalatable , so all his opponents are "crypto-Congregation" ; all sorts of interruptions and name calling happen to them . Nor there's any particular end to the death threats . Funny is the guy , who was once accused of being an American spy and a Congregation member and beaten out of a party meeting where he was to challenge the leader of the almost racists . Yeah , takes 5 years and the guy is made an aide to the leader , with like full authority and wait , after 5 more years he is an American agent and Congregation member , again ... Or the tale of the Russian Su-24 shot down and me was on this planet , not on an expedition to the edge of the Galaxy , when every single commentator was celebrating how the Russians were taught their place and they better went back to wherever they came from . Today , some guy says it was all the fault of the Little Imperialist who treacherously wanted to have the limelight and bragged about it . Thus forcing the PM to talk tough lest our enemies could have wet-dreams of cracks in the unassailable New Turkey and the good friend of ours , Putin was forced to act and it cost this country an exact 96 Billion US dollars . Now that he is saying 96 , it can't be more than 48 and while every single commentator is talking of how our amazing friendship with Moscow re-shapes the world , the fact is we still can't sell tomatoes to Russia .

1984 happens , especially when this intellectual lackey tells the PM in some award ceremony that if Orwell was there , Orwell would be clapping wildly and she gets a rousing applause in return . She has failed to be seen , after claiming on the Turkish TV that the spineless jerk , the previous US President was a coward . Really a Muslim , he was attending Church trembling in fear of the Christians in America . He should have taken heart from the awesome successes of Ankara . Whaaat is not a reaction ı get these days , but am so sure that Barack wouldn't be so harshly treated if he had not described the PM as lacking , for that tiny failure to invade Syria and get this country smashed into a 1000 pieces . Americans are so strange they are wasting a million bombs while waiting us to fight their wars and die in the process , instead of killing us themselves with their million bombs . She is no doubt peddling the greatness of the New Turkey to Russians these days . Smarties fear the dumbos , those fools who can learn to speak Turkish when the US State Department assigns them to Turkey . The not so smart do not , think they are sent here on special stuff and they will be available for the masses when the success is complete and the both sides no longer have to deal with the minds behind the Starfleet and yours idiotly .

.
 
and still it's all about the votes . They have created a typical mess in Rotterdam that polarizes their supporters and opponents and hope for the best . Not one of them actually cares that the situation of people in Europe might worsen . With actually racist beliefs on the rise . Was just about to talk on how this mimics Israel with every spike in anti-Semitism in the West adding another settler with an Uzi to the West Bank . Turns out the A-K-P has discovered grumblings in the overall expat community and the people there are advised to stay in Europe and send their kids to the best schools , for Europe belongs to them . And of course each family to make 5 kids , not 3 as in turkey , for they have enough numbers here to win the vote . Aptly reinforced by the almost racists on how they will topple the Monarchies of Europe . Nobody says Democracies of Europe , because everybody loves the sight of Angela Merkel seated on a golden chair from the Ottoman era , next to the PM . You know , no European Monarch would be doing that , so possibly no one expects a state visit by any . Yet Merkel acts quite game for the all conquering New Turkey , she might be here soon , and it will be nice to see the activities here to top the way she has been treated in the Whitey Homey . BSS might be all unhappy with 65 Billions of deficit with the Germans and but yeah he has taught her and Merkel had to accept Ivanka as an equal . Was surprised to see Nick Fury of the SHIELD is some White dude , apparently Irish , considering am not that much into comics . Was not surprised at all to see Fury sent to Guantanamo as a "guest" for calling BSS names . Imagine my embrassment to notice the comics were from 2005 ; was deceived by all that Emperor of America talk ...

the politics are simple . You insult people in the open and keep amicable in the background . Rutte , having won his vote can now act conciliatory . The one here is still a month away and everything goes . And goes . We have years of a narrative that says Muslims are good , and the rest is bad . We have a narrative of how the West oppresses Muslims and everything will be OK when the Muslims unite . We are merely hearing whispers of an A-K-P offshoot in the Netherlands that won 3 seats in the Dutch Parliament . Their election campaign seems to be based on harassing the Moroccans to vote for their Muslim brothers , instead getting one of theirs elected as the major of Rotterdam and stuff . Moroccans are no doubt bad , with a treacherous Ebu Talip telling lies on how Rotterdam and Istanbul are not brother cities , after the Municipality of Istanbul declaring Rotterdam is no longer a brother . It might not have been heard widely but we are having troubles with the Bulgarians , with Sofia withdrawing its Ambrassador to Ankara . You see , A-K-P created a second "Turkish" party there , with the original being kinda Leftist . There's this odd theory , naturally only in Turkey , that the Iron Curtain fell only because the Jivkov Goverment exiled some 250 000 ethnic Turks in 1989 . Many of those now have double citizenship and can vote . When a member of the first party attempts to come here , he is banned . He is a traitor . So , finally the Bulgarians stop the food parcels from here . You know , this is a Turkish election staple , with "Muslims" distributing food parcels to the poor , hinting of more to come in return for the votes . Such bad feelings here , for the evil first party keeps distributing parcels and A-K-P not allowed and such an heinous act against Democracy . And of course not a single commentator remembering the heights of Syrian idiocy . When all they wanted was a greenlight from America and like 2 million ground troops from NATO for an invasion and that wasn't coming . Simply because the people here didn't want to fight . To decrease the fears of Arabs flooding into the country and decreasing our racial purity or something it was down to taking one third of Bulgaria and increasing the number of Balkan people . Easy , because the Party came to power on the American programme to create the 'stan . Naturally Uncle Sam will go and tell the stupid Bulgars to give a third of their country because the God's chosen can not make the now extinct Turkish Army to invade Syria .

let's just forget how easily the Bulgarians could be induced to make the gas chambers for the camps , if we were to be exterminated

so what if 'stan exists ? So what , if the Kurds have their own country ? Perhaps , first a reason why the awesomely glorious Allies could not make one after the Great War ? Just like they are the prime reason of these claimed numbers of Armenian losses and the ones who looted and raped and killed and abducted so much and so many refused to be part of a country run by the English ; only because they might have to answer for it ? And in return for Turkish "protection" , they swore on the Kuran that their feodal structures would end , survivors would be left free if they wanted to be free and there would be no 'ing rebellion of any sorts against the Republic , be it with the Caliph or not ? Only because nobody ever believes the idiotic Turk might one morning get up from the wrong side of the bed and remember promises made to him have not been kept ?

let's say this is a lie . Oh-kay , the 'stan is there . Will any single Kurd in the Western provinces want to go there ? You know , they will be soon ethnically cleansing there , driving out the possible 5th column of Turks out of every single location , just like they have been doing stuff to Arabs under the radar while democratically fighting in name of Mankind against ISIL ? So that there will be calls for revenge and attempts to burn Kurds in their homes . Oh-kay , our newly discovered "Muslimness" stops the outrage while millions of Sunni Arab Brothers flood the Western provinces to keep an eye on the evil Communist agitator-provocateurs ? The almost racists are also "Muslims" , by default you know , as soon as America says so and we are so attuned to bring down European Monarchies , no doubt the ones with the best blondes ... Oh-kay , will that be enough the stop the outrage of the people of Erzurum , who tend to take themselves as the truest of anything ? In something that must be entirely new , the Barzanists are apparently now claiming that province of their own . Giving weather reports on their northenmost city or something . No doubt in return for their make-believe fighting against the seperatists in Sinjar . Cheaply acquired by the latter . Formerly belonging to the Yezidis , who came under attack after the Barzanists ran before a truckload of beardies and thousands were evicted and hundreds died and women have have been sold in slave bazaars while some Black dude lived in the White House , and like all transpiring under the watchful eye of the always devastating American airpower . However you cut it , a Kurdish state is Civil War in Turkey and we are like 4 times the size of Syria in population . True , nobody would cry for the Turks but imagine what would happen to those who are like the only ones keeping the hordes of ISIL off the civilized world .

oh-kay , let the country to be a democracy , the one we Turks abhor , for merely being Turks and give everybody rights ? Would not work , because the Goverment would be held responsible for the ethnic cleansing taking place in the East , or at least with the electricity bills . Now doubled , because we would be also required to pay for the past crimes while those in the East will not be paying , the very people who don't pay now even if their blood brothers do and lambasted for doing so ... now that they will be the legal owners of the rivers then . Oh-kay , let the country be a full "Muslim" country ? Won't work , because it would hurt Donald Trump's claim to be the Messiah , if there were 80 million more towel heads ; and mind you our towels are world renowned for quality . Rightfully on par with the Blacks having a monopoly on the use of N word and if BSS doesn't have a claim to be the one , let's see what the next year will bring . Let the country be a fully racist one ? Won't work , our Sunni Brothers of all stripes will join the seperatists who might then receive more Putinesque . Give it all to the seperatists ? Won't work , there would have to be more American boots on the ground than needed to kill us all in any case . So the future still belongs to what Americans have designed ? For all the heroic fight against the Congregation , it seems their spiritual leader said this country would become a Presidential country of increased powers , you know , back in 1997 .

fighting against the Congregation is all important . Daily revelations of the horror of the traitors . Did you know the entire lot people what Ankara still claims to be the Airforce of the country is of the Congregation ? Right on the day some 60 odd former students of a school were released by a court . Those were supposed to become military pilots and were in a summer camp when they were filled on buses and sent as ground troops to support the coup in Istanbul . One of them supposedly fell asleep on the way and was unable to get of the bus as "Muslims" started stoning the buses and thus ended up on the bridge on the Bosphorus and his head supposedly was cut off . Because people are always more heroic when the opposition surrenders . The claim that the entire lot is of the Congregation has no relation to the idea that the coup failed to bomb 3rd party civilian homes while on terror bombing , for nobody now would want to believe that . Funny that yours idiotly might have been bombed to rubble when some coupist came up to take revenge that this city was like the first to see its designated "Martial Law" commander arrested and missed the military housing projects by like 200 meters . Am a Paveway fan myself but mistakes happen , right ? Ah , surely would help the company that wants to build the new apartments ...
 
 
 
just in the same spirit , yet another celebration of March 18th , the day the Allies were denied the easy victory in the Great War , in which we were to be the turkey on the table , easily carved . This kid naturally on TV , telling how scared he was on the night of the coup with tanks and jets . The New knows everything better , it's no use to tell them they should stop trivializing things . Especially if they are just about to claim 250 000 martyrs in Çanakkale , making it almost a thousand to one . Though ı failed to catch it they might be just about revising that down to 55 000 battle deaths and maybe 30 000 others , for people might well be able to whisper "1000 to 1 and they are comparing themselves to" you know whom . March 18th is like totally the beginning of the end of the European hold on the world , the Disgrace of July 15th is just a placeholder for the big one America deferred for the Election of 2016 . The last was a small affair designed to put further shame on the Turkish soldier , aimed to destroy the credibility ... so that when America finally finds the heart for beginning it , everybody will remember how easy the so called "Turkish" army was . When people rush to the neighbour's house to kill and rape as applicable , everybody will laugh at the truckload of troops trying to stop them . They might throw stones at the soldiers , or behead them or invite them to join and as we all know there will be thousands of them ready to do so . When America tries to have the plane of leadership shot down , it won't trust its brainless idiots to do it by repeating the location of it every 15 minutes on public TV ; having the like totally invisible F-22s .

the leader of the almost racists say the center of the global conspiracy is Turkey and for once he's right or something . It took 8 years for the spineless jerk to make this country finally fit to fight a civil war . Though ı can't believe BSS has not won a Peace Nobel yet . Didn't he stop the World War III that would have taken place had Mrs Rodham won ? As we have been assured the all knowing Turkish media ? When recounting the history of Fascism , this guy who must be spending a fortune to keep the now required beard trim , says Adolf declared war on Italy and France in 1940 . Told you , there's not much need for brains in this business . Repeat it a milllion times and it's the truth . ı myself sure had not realised the greatness of Abdülhamid . The New Turkey has now a fetish or something about the Great Hakan / bloody Sultan . He's like the greatest military commander in history now , with extreme farsight . He reads it in an English magazine , a single sentence on how the sea route to Istanbul goes through Dardanelles . Because we are all idiots in Turkey we would say that it first goes to Konya and reaches the Black Sea and makes a 180 degree turn . No , the great Sultan understands one day the Evil Ingiliz might attack the capital with its fleet . Like 30 years before 1915 ! Making it 1880s ... As if 1877 did not happen and Adm Hornby or whatever did not deter the Russian Army from a final push and make the great Sultan run to Anatolia helter skelter . As if Abdülhamid was a typical 21st Century person of the New Turkey with no particular knowledge of history . Pertinently on how the British Fleet had crossed the same in 1807 and it was a miracle of Allah that there was no wind to take ships to the shores of the city . And when there was the wind , a truly alerted Ottoman state had sited every single available cannon , like finally and saved its capital city from being shelled and burned to the ground . As if Abdülhamid did not know the Venetians like blockaded the Straits for like decades whenever they felt like it .

these are not worthy of mention , pointless to film especially in the New Turkey . What works is the too arrogant British Ambrassador who talks too much and gets slapped , you know , by the incredible Abdülhamid . Not really necessary to remind CFC that didn't happen in real life . As if Abdülhamid is a moron who doesn't know the Bey of Algeria slapped the French Ambrassador in 1830 or so and the whole Europe cheered the French invasion . If it had happened in his time , Abdülhamid would have the scenario writers of that series on the TıRT swinging in the trees . In case CFC members have forgotten , he is the last "true" Ottoman sultan , his two brothers that followed him to the throne being mere puppets of the evil Ittihad . When the Republic is "officially" destroyed , the replacement will claim following the footsteps of this smart , brave , handsome Ottoman sultan who was also Clark Kent .

film business already mentioned by a journo in Hürriyet . He was the spokesperson or something for the leadership , the next door neighbour to the PM for quite a while . He is writing so much in reverse for so long a time that ı am starting to think he wants to tell the dumbos he is the true author of these pages . Dumbos being dumbos , ı have no doubt that they would believe that , too .

and the anniversary programmes are much par the course . Any proper one would include the story of the ant that carried a drop of water to the bonfire that was started by the cruel king who wanted to burn Prophet Abraham , it was nothing , so small an effort but the ant was doin' its part . See , every "Muslim" to vote in the right way can be added in loveliest ways to most unrelated venues . Or the unending mistakes with the low level A-K-P official unfurling an Ottoman flag to welcome the Goverment Minister , says he mistook the colour . The Last Prime Minister taken to stride with the phrase on how Çanakkale can not be passed . Is almost sacred , meaning so many people fell in defence of the country . Because now they are having the Koreans to build a bridge there , too , he guy once talked how the A-K-P could pass , to widespread condemnation in the limited sliver of the media that's yet to be taken over by the Party ... He says it again , on the day . Oh , ı never doubt they are much better than even the Ottomans , one smart guy actually said it a couple of years back , too . The peoples of Lebanon still remember their Great War with a vengeance , the famine and the executions of "Nationalist" intelligentsia ; the love of the Ottomans in this country is transient , will end when the New Turkey gets to rule places like Lebanon .
 
look at the picture ...

a7p.jpg


that , my friend , is the face of a Christian Fundamentalist or something . Even his name is Crook ! Oh , my ... though possibly the word crook didn't mean a crook in those days . Even better , he is a general in the US Army . Oh my , oh my ... And why does he appear in an English language history magazine in an article that studies the American "massacres" , the "genocide" against the Native Americans ? Carefully noting that Gen. Crook commanded many such actions that destroyed "Redskin villages" ? Wait ...

The Bannock tribe of southern Idaho Territory had finally had enough. For three decades, the wagon trains of white migrants had ripped up their country. American pioneers slaughtered game, murdered Bannock men and raped women with impunity. A well-intentioned federal promise to give the Bannocks “absolute and undisturbed use” of a large parcel of rich prairieland in exchange for their gradual settlement on a reservation came to naught when a government stenographer misnamed the location. Settlers soon overran the prairie, depriving the Bannocks of their primary source of food. Supplemental government rations proved sorely inadequate. In 1878, with starvation looming, Bannock warriors burst forth from their reservation, burning ranches and ambushing stagecoaches. In response, the instruction went out to the army: punish the Bannock people.

A newspaper reporter asked George Crook, an eminent American general, if he found it difficult to send soldiers to be killed under such circumstances. “That is not the hardest thing,” he replied. “A harder thing is to be forced to kill Indians when they are clearly in the right.” The reporter had touched a raw nerve. “I do not wonder,” Crook continued, “and you will not either, that when Indians see their wives and children starving and their last source of supplies cut off, they go to war. And then we are sent out there to kill them. It is an outrage. All tribes tell the same story. They are surrounded on all sides, the game is destroyed or driven away, they are left to starve, and there remains but one thing for them to do – fight while they can. Our treatment of the Indian is an outrage.”

or

After an incident in December 1866 in which an inexperienced captain stumbled into an ambush that wiped out his 80- man detachment, Sherman growled that those responsible should be hunted down with “vindictive earnestness… even to their extermination: men, women, and children”. Sheridan is said to have remarked to a Native American peace chief that “the only good Indians I ever saw were dead”. Both generals pursued a strategy of attacking Plains Indian villages in the winter, when warriors were least able to resist and the odds of non-combatant casualties were high. It was the only chance the army had to defeat an enemy too elusive to defeat in fair weather.


goes on to say :Neither, however, advocated the wanton killing of noncombatants, and they were quick to accept Native American surrenders and to acknowledge the desperation that drove the resistance. Expressing pity for “the poor devil [who] naturally wriggles against his doom”, Sherman enjoined a class of military graduates to achieve the “inevitable result” of dispossessing the United States’ indigenous people of their lands as humanely as possible. Subordinate commanders concurred: the plight of the country’s indigenous peoples disturbed most senior officers, and more often than not they sympathised with the Indians they were charged with subduing. Colonel John Gibbon, the US army officer famous for having repelled the final great Confederate assault at Gettysburg in the American Civil War, often expressed misgivings over his frontier duties. Reflecting on the morality of an impending dawn attack on one village, Gibbon later wrote privately to his bishop: “Knowing our peaceful disposition as you do, you can fancy us seated for hours in the darkness of the night within plain hearing of a parcel of crying babies and the talk of their fathers and mothers, waiting for light enough to commence [the] slaughter... I could not help thinking that this inhuman task was forced upon us by a system of fraud and injustice which had compelled those poor wretches to assume a hostile attitude toward the whites.” You know , just because Xenforo qoutes also are downright miserable , took 7 minutes to get this readable ....


In June 1874, meanwhile, Major General John Pope even suggested that soldiers be sent to help Native American people eliminate white buffalo-hunters who were butchering the reservation herds on which the Southern Plains tribes depended for much of their food. When Native Americans attacked the hunters’ gathering place, the governor of Kansas appealed to Pope to dispatch troops to raise the siege. Pope turned him down flat. “Indians, like white men,” he said, “are not reconciled to starve peacefully. The buffalo hunters have justly earned all that may befall them. If I were to send troops to these unlawful establishments, it would be to break them up and not protect them.” In the event, the interloping buffalo hunters ended up repelling the attack themselves without army intervention

oh , is this going to be a rant or stuff to discuss whether these guys were men because of their souls or merely a thing about the differences between XX and XY kind of chromosomes thing ? No , it's merely an entry to "military" stuff . Injuns , living in nature where the weak fell by the wayside , were hard to catch . Inevitably bred by violence they would perhaps equal the special forces of these years . The theater being vast and the means of mobility slow and kinda equal for both sides , Americans opted to dry up the sea ; if you are familiar with the saying that says guerillas are like fish or something . The American Native was never much of a fighter amongst his camp tents , as has been regularly observed by the Whites . Even the best of today still need a sound sleep time to time with the feeling of being with "friends" , normal people , life going on no matter what else might be happening . Denied mobility and forced to fight for dependants instead of disengaging and run , Natives would be ground down by superior firepower and numbers of the Whites . Sherman was the workhorse of the Allies in WW II , Sheridan is a little cute thing but ı know no American tank ever named General Custer . Not because that he was a horse thief to begin with . There surely would be one , possibly a fast one , too . If he had not lost his cool and charged right into biggest ever concentration of Native Americans . Camp fighting was for creating confusion in the Redskins and slaughtering them all , slaughtering the squaws and the lot did not guarantee victory on its own .



the magazine article seems to be one for correcting the Leftist bias in interpreting the stuff on how the greatest nation on Earth or something never kept one single promise or something . It could surely lead to a full piece on how Christian Fundamentalist gunsmiths had no issues with stamping pagan symbols on the guns they were selling to the savages , who then imposed domination on their neighbours that had no recourse left , either than buying guns or rolling over to die . How this "balance of power" cleared massive tracts of land for the settlers for "ethnic cleansing" were started by the Natives themselves and discovered too late that they were also weakened by it . So that they inevitably fell afoul of the Whites , running out of steam to conquer other tribes and having so many divisions inside with every notable bought by the Europeans / Americans , their final fight would be a massacre . Different only in the fact that it was happening to them , not others . With tinfoil hat stuff on how great European powers were suspicious of the 13 Colonies or the nascent United States amassing more land , hence potential power , that Jefferson swore "hand on the Bible" that after Louisiana they had no ambitions to grow and the rest would be left for the Natives , to join the USA in a federation when they were civilized enough .



but no , this is hardly the place . Rather would examine the Syrian Civil War . Which the Sunnis abroad pushed and the Sunnis inside Syria accepted . With Cavalry just there , horses , guns and bugles all ready . Waiting just for the order to charge . There is a civil war in Syria because everybody saw Ankara would betray Damascus despite the cozy words of friendship . Sunnis rose and Alawites fired . Even went in and started bombing cities on the assumption that Ankara with full blessings of Washington would scramble its no-longer-Turkish F-16s , there would be a week of troubles and the ringleaders would escape Syria and there would be democracy . Imagine the consternation of the Alawites themselves , who were horrified to discover that there would be no intervention . Understanding the bloodbath of Libya was easy , Obama and Sarkozy and the oil rich Arabs failing to agree on who would get the biggest share of the loot . Not even "Zionists" narrative made sense ; Damascus had repeatedly shown it could co-exist with Tel Aviv but this was something else , not even surrender was possible . Regime responded with the firebrigade approach . Not having the numbers after the Sunni majority of the rank and file defected the remaining forces would be on the move constantly . You know , basically to make it too expensive for the Irresuction , with mostly attacking the "sea" . Have been assured elsewhere on the web that Iranians came in before the 2012 shoot down of the Phantom , like a month or three before . Better left to your imagination , this rather clear vacillation of the New Turkey after the Congregation proved victorious over the now-extinct Turkish Armed Forces and yet could not share the loot with the Party .



ah , Ankara was cool with Iran at the time , taking their rightful share of the embargoes of the US Administration against Tahran ... Iranians have sentenced their guy at the end of smuggling to death but keep him alive , in case he manages to bring a couple of billion US dollars back . The Iranian guy at this end of smuggling is in jail in the US , with even his famous-Turkish-singer wife divorcing him . Yet the party media says their Iranian is a "national project" . You know maybe not , in case people decide to act against the latest American outrage of arresting some Turkish banker dude and like do something useful for the New Turkey . Who should have known that Americans would be after him for cheating the US out of a million or a billion or whatever and went like 6 times to the US after the Congregation outed him as a conspirator against the embargoes . When something is called "national" it becomes sacred ? Or is it so when one claims the Americans who run the case are affiliated with the Congregation ? Like this Fred Bharara guy , who might or might not become the major of New York or Attorney General of the US one day ? Oh yes , gotta say something ? When New York is invaded , the case will go on according to the US Laws . But then taking a fair share and offending Saudi masters are two different things . When Iranians decided the New Turkey was all bark and no bite they started to deploy "advisors" .



the Sunnis of Syria were running through the regular Saudi Jihad , in which decent people get killed and crooks remain to carry out the wishes of the highest bidder , yeah , the petrodollar rich Saudis . Iranians might overturn the apple cart by accidentally killing all the crooks , hence a call to Ankara to do its piece . Hence a Phantom gets ordered to do stuff that will get it shot down . Hence a call on NATO for Article 5 ... Hence no surprises for yours idiotly to watch the spectacle of people denying us . Everybody wants Turks to fight and watch from the side . The Operative word being everybody , meaning we don't get to fight anybody . The start of the Syrian Civil War "ended" democracy in Turkey with all attention concentrated on the conquest to come with no care for the charades that should have been kept on . The obvious lack of "courage" after the Phantom to invade Syria made the Congregation-Party fight inevitable . When people get chewed on why they haven't rolled in hundreds of thousands of men into the neighbouring country , the tendency tends to be blaiming the other guy , instead of accepting one is a coward or something . No problem at all for America , they love Kurds more anyhow .
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom