A.M.N.E.S: The Ancient Mediterranean NES

By imperial decree the Phoenician empire does support the Cretan rebels but we will not be aiding them militarily at this point in time. The Greeks are already tied up in Macedon, and we feel the Cretans can sufficiently work on their own. Again at this point in time we are not and have no plans to support the Cretan rebels.

The Phoenician government advocates its denouncement of the aggressive military campaign being executed by the Greek emperor in Macedon. Again, we will not be acting and at this point in time do not intend to, but advice Greece that the reprecussions of her actions may end up being severe.

We hope that war shall be saved for better times.

Itobaal of Jbail, Emperor of Phoenicia.
 
Rome offers immediate peace with Carthage, our attack was uncalled for we know, but we had to break the deadlock in the talks over the future of those islands.

The emperor Julius Caesar decreed that for the safety of Rome, those islands had to be Roman. We know we committed a cowardly act, and are willing to pay 5 talent reparations, but will not hand back Sardinia.

We hope you will consider immediate peace.

Julius Caesar
 
Hail my fellow Rulers.
I am currently going to have to put down the rebellion in crete with force. I hope you will not look badly upon this. I can not meet the demands of the Rebels, the Macedonians put to high a price on peace. If they would take peace with out tribute i would be willing for that but other wise this war most go on.

King Demetrias I
 
To Phillip

I will except peace and give you three talens if you will lay no more claim to lands in Tharcia and Moesia Inferior.Greece will not pay your more then five gold period. Other wise this war will go on.

King Demetrias I

(ooc) You don't have their capital any where near Oesca it is in the lower portions of Dalmatia or Thracia acording to your map.
 
OOC (yes, I'll have to move the capital north. Sorry bout that! :) )

The Macedonian people will accept peace if you pay us 4 talents for indemnities and GUARANTEE us these lands for all time; otherwise, war will continue. The neutral lands may be split between you and Anatolia as you please.
 

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Yes, thanks, if you can! :) I'm using Imaging, and it seems to post the whole page, blank or not. It is distracting, I agree.
 
(ooc)
You can use this map to rename it and still keep it as a Macedonian Civ. Cause if you moved it you would have to change the civ.
 

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You are still claiming to much territory to the east recend your claims to these lands and we will grant you peace and Garuntee your current borders only until the next time war is called for. Nothing is eternal but god and death so no peace can be eternal unless it is the peace of the dead. If that is the peace you want I will be happy to grant it to you.

Demetrias I
 
All right, the new Macedon capital is Pella. (but as you can see Phillip is planning on moving if the Greeks will agree to this peace proposal)

Anyway, back in character-

Dispatch from PHILLIP II
Because our grand nation regrets not only our own spilled blood but yours, we will make you one more offer. In return for three talents, we will move our capital to Sardaca. From this time forth, Macedonia will cede any and all claims to:

-the Black Sea Coast

-Thracia

-Moesia INFERIOR (thanks for catching that :)

We hope you will accept this proposal, and reluctantly inform you that it is the best you can hope for, unless you wish to recommence the war and see whom the gods favor this time.

Alea jacta est.
 

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Its a deal and since you said Superior I get it all. All of Moesia it is all mine now thank. I shall never forget your generousity.

Demetrias I

OOC - Check his map man you just gave me a lot of territory. God bless typo's on legally binding documents.
 
What typo? :) I meant Inferior. If you agree to the map, then I'll use those borders next turn during expansion.
 
(ooc) You wrote Superior in your document as Phillip. I will take either one. I wish you would give me superior since you did write it in the letter.
 
Carthage is willing to accept peace terms with wise Rome.
1. The two islands under dispute shall be Roman.
2. The islands shall have Carthese protection for the next 12 years.
3. Rome shall not make any claim upon the 2 mini islands to the west.
4. Rome shall pay Carthage 2 talents to make up for losses in war.
 
If by the 2 mini islands, you mean Majorca, Minorca and Ibiza(too small to be shown), which I can't for the life of me remember the name for the group of, then I make no claim to them, ever, as they are not a threat to Rome's security. They do however belong to another nation anyway, but if you want them, go ahead.

What do you mean by the term protection? Do you mean that they will be occupied by Carthage troops, or just protected from my wrath should they rebel? If it is the latter, I can accept that. If it is the former, I would rather pay the full 5 talents for peace and forget that.

I am happy to pay up to 5 talents for peace, and welcome Carthage's wise decision.

Caesar
 
The two minor isles which Iberia has claimed are the Balearic Isles, I believe.

Demetrias: Phillip is willing to withdraw from the brown lands on the map and I think it's a very generous offer considering that he's not only willing to forgive your aggression, but also to guarantee you lands which you have absolutely no claim over, such as any part of Moesia at all! Moesia Superior contains the capital, asking for it is like asking him to step down from the throne. It's impossible. Moesia Inferior he is generously willing to grant to you, considering that you have very few lands besides Greece and Crete. Notice that he's allowing you to keep the Tomi colony, which is very obviously in Macedonian territory (or Anatolian), and that he's willing to guarantee you a strip of land around the Black Sea so your lands can all be connected. I ask you to consider Phillip's offer of 3 talents and the arrangement shown on his map. Also, it's his final offer. Otherwise war will continue.

[OOC] Phillip was historically pretty arrogant, so that's his character in the game...

Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention a little common-sense thing about luxuries. I said 5 tokens was an okay minimum bid. Well, if your nation is at war obviously there's going to be unrest and you need more luxuries. Second, as your nation grows larger you need more and more regardless, about 1/5 of your salary is a good number. So the Cretans rebelled to the nearest nation with a higher luxury - Phoenicia.

Uknemesis asked me two good questions today, and I'd be glad to answer them!

1. How much effect does science have? Will one of Sullla's horses, for example, be able to kill two?

The answer is, it depends. The technology has no effect unless it's being used right. For example, Sullla's horses are no better at defense than anyone else's, as the longer spear is an offensive bonus. Second, the answer is, since I work out battles with probability out of a 100, and dice, the chances that one horse can survive two battles is greatly increased. Generally, if one horse attacks two in the game, the chance of it killing both is about 15%. Sullla's horses have about a 45% chance. So it's not a huge bonus, but it DOES make a difference, and you can expect battles to eventually favor Sullla if he keep on using horses (but it probably doesn't work too well on rocky terrain, now does it? ;) ).

2. What effect does luxury have besides keeping my people from rebelling?

Another good question. A "too high" luxury bid will make your people work harder at expanding, if they still are. Or it may make them work harding at getting talents for your salary (kind of a negative effect though: you spend 5 talents too much on luxury to get only 3-4 more talents of salary). Lastly, once in a while a very happy people may inspire soldiers defending your homeland, making them tougher, but still not invincible to 3:1 or 4:1 odds.
 
Phillip we accept with no claims to Superior we were just gloating over the stupidity of your Scribes. You might want to fire them. Though your claim that we have no right to Tomi is false we have the same right as every nation we could get there.

Demetrias I.
 
Hello everyone. Wilboman the Gaul has announced his new tech update: he's taught his Swordsmen some wild new tactics, giving them some small bonuses on attack, defense, and speed.

Erik Mesoy's build leaves 3 talents left over, so I suppose he wants the first deal. Talk it over so we can straighten tribute out. Don't submit your orders until you know how many talents you're getting, because you can use them of course!
 
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