32 years old, started Civ 2 on my first day with my first PC in 1995. Have been playing everything, including Call to Power fanatically since then. The vanilla version of Civ 5 was simply dreadful. How in 1 year with the two expansions they managed to achieve what Civ 5 BNW is today I don't know. In short Civdude, forget about Civ 5 as it was released, IMO Civ 5 BNW is better even than Civ 4 BTS. So enjoy!