A Question for HoI2: Doomsday

[Kan' Sharuminar]

Riptide: Sorry about that, didn't see your post.

CORE stands for 'Community Open Resource Exchange' (to be honest, I think they were going for an acronym rather than the name ). It adds a lot of events and I believe tries to make it more historically sound. I can't add more than that, as I don't have it and so can't vouch for it. CORE for the first Hearts of Iron was very good though.'

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=289: This is the forum on the Paradox site for the mod.

I'm not entirely sure about the milestone thing - I've never heard of that before.

Berrie: Go for the latest patch, in general the patches for Paradox games are exceptional, as they really take account of what's going wrong and add what the players want. Until Hearts of Iron 2, in fact, the Paradox games were fairly renowned for being very glitchy until they started bringing out patches.

At the moment I'm using Patch 1.03a - I don't think I can update because it'll corrupt my save files, which I need right now.

 

[Captain2]

yeah I have doomsday so i think i'm fine as far as patching goes for now, frankly i'd be afraid to break it

 

[steviejay]

I've just started a new game as Britain for fun. Spend the pre-war period trying to invade Ireland (won't let me) and building fighters.

The war kicked off and there was a series of large naval engagements between 50 odd ships in total, from which the Germans lost pretty much all their major capital ships (including the Bismarck, how I laughed) however it was sometime because I could get my fleet back to operational standard and that allowed the Germans to get some units over to Norway. I sent 5 units however for some reason they just couldn't crack the German invaders and they took Norway. On the plus side I now have a foothold in Norway on a mountain defended by land forts and I've just reinforced it so now there are 15 Infantry divisions and 1 armour waiting for the time to break out. I'm pretty much relying on the fleet and the airforce to keep the Germans away from Britain.

In Africa it's not going so good I reinforced it too late so now 11 Inf divisions and 2 armour is trying to hold back almost triple that number. The Italians bypassed my defences forcing me into a pocket just at the original border and have sent units to capture Alexandria and Port Said so I'm pretty much cut off although I have had a number of victories against them for little loss, I'm constructing a fleet at Plymouth right now to reinforce it.

Feels nice to get back into this game

 

[Kan' Sharuminar]

I rarely play games as Britain, due to the sheer scale of many fronts and micromanaging dozens of fleets and troops, not to mention it's one of the nations which relies on the 'intelligence' of the allied AI. I find it to be the most satisfying to win as though, so I do brave it from time to time.

Heh, in my last Britain game, there was no war in Europe (Poland surrendered Danzig), so I spent my time in the far east against Japan, eventually invading their home islands and forcing a surrender. Then I declared war on Germany and invaded through Hamburg into the northern regions. France even managed to push forward from the Maginot Line, bless em.

I felt a little bit cruel

 

[Captain2]

I just started a game as the soviet union, made a Maginot line through eastern poland, those Germans arent getting to stalingrad....

for some reason Turkey joined the allies, the race to berlin is kind of weird

 

[steviejay]

heh dude just remember, the Maginot Line didn't work out so well for the French

 

[Kan' Sharuminar]

The Maginot Line itself was fine, just not long enough.

Watch they don't invade through Romania

 

[Captain2]

yeah... oddly enough I did not expand the line to romania, mostly because i figured in the event of war it'll be easy to take them out

also I abandoned Human Wave for spearhead early on, the Russians still arent as strong as Germans though

 

[steviejay]

The Maginot Line itself was fine, just not long enough.

Watch they don't invade through Romania

Heh good point, although you have to see their point in that matter.

'Yes Belgium, we French are your brothers, we fight in this together. Now I want you to sit there while we build this big honking wall between you and the Germans and us.'

 

[Kan' Sharuminar]

Last Soviet game I played I was shocked to be pushed back by the Germans. Not far mind, back to the Dnieper River, where my forces made a valiant last stand (they had too, falling back to the river was my emergency plan) over the winter. The Germans almost managed a breakthrough in the south, but I turned it into an encirclement, then began a slow push for Berlin the next year.

Closest I've come to a near-historical Barbarossa in the game, I may play the 1941 scenario as Russia next time

@Steviejay:

 

[Captain2]

eh... i hate large fronts, normally as Germany i just make preperations then i play as belgium and wait for the soviet-nazi war to end

its a problem i have, i hate one large war, yet i liked a Poland sized conflict

of course the problem with letting the computer use my Russia, usually the Soviets lose, actually everytime i see them lose, i've seen the Nationalists in spain win more

HOI 2, the game where the real outcome is a very slim chance, Communist China always loses, so does the soviet union, and so does the nationalists

 

[Kan' Sharuminar]

I love large fronts, they're wearying, but when you win it's a proud moment. Hell, I love losing large fronts, especially if I manage to turn the tide and ultimately win.

If you're looking for nations that have smaller fronts, try Italy

 

[Captain2]

I once tried Austria....took Chezkloslovakia and Yugoslavia, spent the rest of the war supporting the eastern front agianst the soviets

actually the United States is pretty good for bite sized campaigns, especially if your Fascist like my USA was...

heh kan theres an idea for an AAR after Prussia, Shadow your USA but have it evil instead

 

[steviejay]

One thing I have noted which I find rather funny is that Italy don't do much to their colonies in Africa. On the outbreak of war they had no defence, my African militia is going crazy capturing provences.

Although I'm getting kinda worried. In 1937 to cut down on partizan activities I 'liberated' Isreal (spare me the politics ) but once I started fighting the Italians they have sent troops and have captured the country, I just don't get how they got past my fleet. I really need to find a way to reinforce Africa before the Italians go all out and it's lost.

 

[Captain2]

I once had Germany liberate Isreal... I figured Hitler had beat Russia, he be in a good mood that year

 

[Kan' Sharuminar]

The leader of the transport fleet could have had the 'Blockade Runner' trait, which decreases the chances of an enemy detecting it.

As far as I know as well, there's no guarantee that two fleets will engage if they're in the same sea province.

 

[steviejay]

yeah but I didn't even SEE the enemy ships. The Italians were able to put units in Isreal AND more troops in Eastern Africa without me noticing. So Iv'e given up trying to fight them that way, my entire Med Fleet is now sitting off southern Italy chewing up any and all convoys, if they outnumber me they're going to need a hell of a lot more supplies than I do, there was one convoy I sank where it must have been undefended because I sank over 20 ships and 0 escorts. Italian naval efficiency at work 'why didn't you defend the convoy??? oh... were we supposed to?'

 

[Kan' Sharuminar]

Hehe, how true. Most of the time I make sure all beachhead provinces have a garrison force, even one infantry or militia division should do the trick to hold off most invasions. If you have the IC spare then build in one or two coastal fortifications.

Sometimes you don't even see the ships - even if they're in the same or adjacent provinces - until the battle begins. I think it all has to do with your intelligence techs and who's in charge of the fleets. Some of the government officials can have specific naval intelligence bonus' as well.

 

[Captain2]

If you're looking for nations that have smaller fronts, try Italy

wouldnt they be harder? surrounded by the British and the french in africa, plus i'd have to compete agianst the British navy... not an easy thing to do

 

[Kan' Sharuminar]

French provinces fall under Vichy control when France falls, so the British are your only front - a front which is about three provinces wide. The navy will probably your biggest problem, which is why you're launching an offensive in Africa - to take Suez. You can also try for Gibraltar as well.

Italy also has the choice of some smaller fronts as well - such as Yugoslavia and Greece.