A thought for the first term

[ravensfire]

A suggestion - regardless of which ruleset we do use, let's consider a modification. For the first term only, we allow a partial term, one that can start in the middle of a month, and finish at the end of that month. We'd then return to our regularly scheduled cycle.

Thoughts?

-- Ravensfire

 

[Strider]

Aye, I've got a thought. Where the hell are you guys getting all this free beer? Everyone else in here seems drunk except me, and that just won't do!

 

[Black_Hole]

Well it looks like ravenfires constitution will win, and if it does we have this road block:

Article H. Elections
The Executive Branch positions, Governorships and the Judiciary positions are all elected positions with a fixed term of one month.

 

[ravensfire]

Well it looks like ravenfires constitution will win, and if it does we have this road block:

Yup - that's why I'm starting this discussion right now. That's an easy change -

Version A - The Executive Branch positions, Governorships and the Judiciary positions are all elected positions with a fixed term.

Version B - The Executive Branch positions, Governorships and the Judiciary positions are all elected positions with a fixed term of one month, except the first term which may be shorter.

The idea here is that I don't think we want to (or should) wait until the end of August to start up. We're going to be barely a week into August when we get everything done. We allow, for the first term, a short cycle, and we get the game started when everything is ready for it.

-- Ravensfire

 

[Black_Hole]

Yup - that's why I'm starting this discussion right now. That's an easy change -

Version A - The Executive Branch positions, Governorships and the Judiciary positions are all elected positions with a fixed term.

Version B - The Executive Branch positions, Governorships and the Judiciary positions are all elected positions with a fixed term of one month, except the first term which may be shorter.

The idea here is that I don't think we want to (or should) wait until the end of August to start up. We're going to be barely a week into August when we get everything done. We allow, for the first term, a short cycle, and we get the game started when everything is ready for it.

-- Ravensfire

Version B, would be great... Version A leaves things open for wider interperation

 

[ravensfire]

Version B, would be great... Version A leaves things open for wider interperation

That comes from trying to answer too many questions at once. Blasted work! Missing from that is a note that the CoL would have the further restrictions.

And now, back to work!

-- Ravensfire

 

[Fallensmith]

OR, we could invent writing, write down the date we start, and hold all elections hence based on that date.
For example, lets say we start on August 10th.
Next election, Sept 10th
After that, Oct 10th
Then, you guys got it now, Nov 10th.

It REALLY isn't that difficult.

 

[DaveShack]

OR, we could invent writing, write down the date we start, and hold all elections hence based on that date.
For example, lets say we start on August 10th.
Next election, Sept 10th
After that, Oct 10th
Then, you guys got it now, Nov 10th.

It REALLY isn't that difficult.

I agree, why are we hung up on the 1st anyway?

 

[greekguy]

I agree, why are we hung up on the 1st anyway?

because it's easier to just go by the months, instead of remembering a date. anyway, i think we should just go with ravensfire's version B and start the game in August. the first term will be from whenever we start until end of August, and then go with full terms after that.

 

[Eklektikos]

Actually it's potentially easier to go by fixed dates, given that the nominations, elections, etc.. need to be held a specific number of days before the start of the new term. Since months are not all of equal length, this means that at present the dates for the election process vary from term to term while using a fixed date midway through the month would allow the dates to remain consistent.

That said, one could actually have the best of both worlds by starting the election process on the 1st rather than the term of office.

 

[Furiey]

Ditto Eklektikos, start nominations on the 1st.

 

[Octavian X]

What the heck does it matter? So what if our poor first term officials are short a few days? I certainly don't think anyone will suffer a castatrophic breakdown if we simply move on and follow the intended spirit of the law.

 

[admiral-bell]

I agree with Octavian X

 

[DaveShack]

We ought to start nominations as soon as we can. This could be when key portions of the Constitution are ratified (the ones which define elections and the offices of course) or when the whole thing is ratified.

 

[Octavian X]

We ought to start nominations as soon as we can. This could be when key portions of the Constitution are ratified (the ones which define elections and the offices of course) or when the whole thing is ratified.

Forgive my repetition, but what exactly is the big deal? We've basically chosen our system of government as well as a variant, and all that remains is a formal set of laws. We already know the gist of the situation, and can easily elect a few leaders to get the ball rolling while we're still finalizing our constitution.

This isn't a 'slippery slope' situation either, where one case of living by the spirit of the intended laws will lead to more lawbreaking. This is a one-time case of both a lack of preparedness and an eagerness to start of our part.

 

[ravensfire]

We ought to start nominations as soon as we can. This could be when key portions of the Constitution are ratified (the ones which define elections and the offices of course) or when the whole thing is ratified.

YES. I'm pm'ing the Mods and Strider (as I don't know who will be running the Election Office) to see if the nominations can start today. We know the ruleset structure - it's just in a final review stage.

-- Ravensfire

 

[Strider]

YES. I'm pm'ing the Mods and Strider (as I don't know who will be running the Election Office) to see if the nominations can start today. We know the ruleset structure - it's just in a final review stage.

-- Ravensfire

My job in the Election Office ended when the DG ended.