Aggie vs Jack Merchant, ladder

[Aggie]

Jack Merchant and I play a ladder PBEM with the following rules:

JM = Russia
Aggie = Babylon

Deity light: deity rules without the extra units for the AI.
Pangeae
No domination and conquest allowed (although no conquest does not influence the game result)
5 biljon years, wet and warm
barbarians random
1.14 (first to finish a couple of 1.14 SG's before upgrading)

Jack and I also agreed upon the following additional rules:

- ROP rape not allowed
- We have to stick to 20 turn deals. Or longer if the humans make a longer one.
- No phoney wars and phoney MPP's. So it's not allowed to declare to a civ at the other side of the world, get MPP's with the rest and stay out of the action.
- Trade boycot not allowed
- No declaration of war vs another civ until the middle ages.

 

[ERIKK]

Why no trade boycot??? It is an important and integrated part of the game!

 

[col]

Especially when playing against Aggie, Erikk.

 

[ERIKK]

Originally posted by col
Especially when playing against Aggie, Erikk.

Yeah, I just used it against him. But anyway, I would have used it against anarres if I was able to as he would have used it against me... The AI uses it all the time.

 

[Aggie]

ERIKK, that may be. Jack and I agreed upon these rules to avoid AI bashing. You also complained about the weakness of the AI in our game. I had to stop fighting, remember? Also to ensure a bit of fun. We have to go for space, culture or diplo. This should prevent a 1vs1 showdown (boring). And lastly we want to avoid discussions regarding our deals.

 

[jack merchant]

My start:

A game forest and a river... nice !

 

[Aggie]

My starting position:

EDIT: I'm jealous!

 

[jack merchant]

Aggie and I decided to abandon the rule we had previously agreed on to disallow ancient age warfare against the AI. On deity, they shouldn't need the extra protection.

 

[Aggie]

Yes, this was originally meant to be an emperor game, but looking at how we both obviously outpace the AI on that level,we decided to make it more difficult.

 

[jack merchant]

updated my spoiler thread with a map.

 

[Aggie]

We are at turn 80 and this game is very much alive. But I think that we are both strugling with strong opponents that locked us at the edge of the map.

 

[jack merchant]

Updated my spoiler thread to reflect the latest developments in the expanding Russian Empire.

 

[Aggie]

Originally posted by jack merchant
...the latest developments in the expanding Russian Empire.

I'm going to check the histograph closely

 

[Aggie]

Turn 85:

I gave Jack Code of Laws for mathematics and Horseback Riding.

We are still waaaaaay behind

 

[Aggie]

Turn 90:

The Mongols are helping me improve my land! Looks like they want me to trade wines....

Or they want to connect to the city to the west

 

[jack merchant]

It's turn 105 and Aggie and I are both at war now - Aggie with the Mongols, me with the Germans, Vikings and (most importantly, as they are my neighbours) the Ottomans. Aggie has the full world map, I don't.
My spoiler thread has been updated.

 

[Aggie]

Jack has success in his war, I don't Stupid, stupid

My spoiler has been updated, but more to follow after a couple of turns.

 

[jack merchant]

Since I have the map now too, I felt it was incumbent upon me to share it with y'all Here's what our world looks like ( I'm the dark red in the NE, Aggie is the royal blue to the SW) :

I also saw reason to update the spoiler thread.

 

[Aggie]

I'm sorry that I didn't give Jack the chance to win from me, but I give up

I made a fatal error when I attacked the mongols fully unprepared. And I broke a gpt-deal with them: rep hit. In my last turn I lost two cities and the mongols came with a giant force. They wouldn't talk, my cities rioted (luxuries gone). So:

Congratulations Jack

 

[anarres]

Wow! A suprise loss!

Congrats Jack!