Americans: are you scared yet?

[zulu9812]

Interestingly, the Declaration of Independence states that if the government becomes too tyranical, the American people have a duty to overthrow it.

 

[A'AbarachAmadan]

Americans: are you scared yet?

No. It doesn't apply to us.

 

[Trajan12]

So if Iraqis were militarily occupying Texas, but obviously not annexing it, you would see no reason to fight?

Ok humoring you on the possibility of that happening if they actually won the war and we surrendered then it would be a legal occupation. But then again there are 300,000,000 americans most of which own guns who would want them gone.(You think Iraq is bad!) If they started fighting that would be illegal. To answer your question as long as they are rebuilding the damage and not taking anything why would we impede their departure?

 

[Trajan12]

Then, what about French resistance or Russian partisan fighting German forces in WWII? The Geneva convetion existed at the time.

Whoever attacks innocent civilians with the purpose of achieving their own goals is a terrorist. And to sqaush this bug before it rears its ugly head, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not terrorist attacks, their purpose was to speed up the war so no more people need to die. But when muhhamed al zawari wraps c4 around his waist and blows up chilren that is not to end fighting that is scaring people for the sake of scaring them.

 

[warpus]

No Im not Scared, but al zawari muhammed abdul nasser jabar hussien should be.

And what if he's American?

 

[Sidhe]

Ok this has gon to far first of all the revolution was fought before there were any Geneva conventions so that dosent count. Then the US backed revolutions were just wars against opression not "hey lets walk on a bus and blow ourselves up" wars. I fail to see why they would even need to fight us in Iraq, its not like we are annexing them. Whod want that place anyway? Id rather buy my oil than have to deal with ungrateful people to get it.

I think I agree, the war was badly planned and now they're falling to fighting amongst themselves, something you underestimated, even though that happened when the English left, a little bit of history repeating. The oil thing is something we found that bit us in the arse, later it did it again, we really arent that clever.

Geneva convention it's not something your adhering to now ,and there's deal of threads dealing with that, it is kinda shameful the lack of regard you have for those people outside of the US, but hey my country isn't dealing with it too well either, it does sadden me though.

 

[nivekclough]

Back from page 1:

Do you think it would be acceptable for me to start my own militia and attack a military base where i live?

If you live in New Hampshire, you have that right. In New Hampshire's state Bill of Rights, you have the right to armed revolution.

 

[Trajan12]

I think I agree, the war was badly planned and now they're falling to fighting amongst themselves, something you underestimated, even though that happened when the English left, a little bit of history repeating. The oil thing is something we found that bit us in the arse, later it did it again, we really arent that clever.

Geneva convention it's not something your adhering to now ,and there's deal of threads dealing with that, it is kinda shameful the lack of regard you have for those people outside of the US, but hey my country isn't dealing with it too well either, it does sadden me though.

In which sentence do I show a lack of regard? If anything I think we should not torture people and stoop to their savage levels. But I think,KNOW, that we must not make it a picnic for them. This is Guerilla warfare and as Ive said before, a completely different concept. Same as in Vietnam. In changig circumstances we must adopt more effective means.

 

[Trajan12]

And what if he's American?

Then he also should not be.

 

[CaptainF]

Then he also should not be.

The hell does that mean?

 

[Maniacal]

*starts planning the digging of a trench along Canada-US border*

Yep, I'm getting a little scared of them.

 

[Trajan12]

The hell does that mean?

I was refering to a question asked further above. I have not been here to reply every day life is getting kind of busy.

 

[JollyRoger]

Ok humoring you on the possibility of that happening if they actually won the war and we surrendered then it would be a legal occupation. But then again there are 300,000,000 americans most of which own guns who would want them gone.(You think Iraq is bad!) If they started fighting that would be illegal. To answer your question as long as they are rebuilding the damage and not taking anything why would we impede their departure?

When has there been a surrender in Iraq? There is nothiong legal about the U.S. occupation. It is an act of war.

 

[Trajan12]

When has there been a surrender in Iraq? There is nothiong legal about the U.S. occupation. It is an act of war.

Well when Sadaam was captured all his Generals gave up. We are there at the behest of the Democratic Iraqi Government that dosent want us to leave so by that logic the US is ocupying every one of its allies.
Why wasnt I around to get the memo that made war illegal? There hasnt been any resolution or sanction.

 

[BasketCase]

The UN hasn't stepped in, either. If anything, last anyone saw them in Iraq, they were heading in the other direction.....

 

[ParkCungHee]

Why wasnt I around to get the memo that made war illegal? There hasnt been any resolution or sanction.

It was issued in Tokyo in 1945.

 

[Trajan12]

It was issued in Tokyo in 1945.

What was it called? Id like to wiki it.

 

[ParkCungHee]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_trials#Charges
Waging unprovoked war is illegal, at least according to the United States, Soviet Union, Republic of China, United Kingdom, France, Canada, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Australia and India.

 

[Trajan12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_trials#Charges
Waging unprovoked war is illegal, at least according to the United States, Soviet Union, Republic of China, United Kingdom, France, Canada, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Australia and India.

What is your definition of unprovoked? So does that mean intervention on the behalf of the population is ilegal? Should we stay out of Darfur?

 

[JollyRoger]

What is your definition of unprovoked? So does that mean intervention on the behalf of the population is ilegal? Should we stay out of Darfur?

Provoked would be something greater than what the U.S. faced when Bush decided to go into Iraq.