Amphibious Attacks

[tsuke]

Ok so I've been playing Civ Iv since it came out, and there is one thing in particular that gets on my nerves everytime I play. The Computer will build cities on 1 square islands. So the only ways I can think of to take those cities over are these:

1 - Barter the Cities off them in Diplomacy
2 - Use Marines (since they are Amphibious)
3 - Upgrading a Unit to be Amphibious

In my current game, I have this problem:

I have the technology that obsoletes the Marine, and I don't have any units that are amphibious. I am using Modern Armors against Infantry and Tanks. I have about 250 MAs, so upgrading them to amphibious may take a bit (although I get two free promotions each time one is created). Is there any other way that I may be overlooking to capture 1 square Island Cities?

 

[KrikkitTwo]

All units can make Amphibious attacks, units with the Amphibious promotion (like Marines) just get a bonus when doing so [or rather they get no Penalty]

Marine amphibiously assaulting Infantry

24 v. 25 (20+25% antigun..infantry ability)

MA amphibiously assaulting infantry

40 v. 30 (20+50% amphibious defense bonus)

No Promotions Needed!!!

 

[MrCynical]

Is there any other way that I may be overlooking to capture 1 square Island Cities?

Yes, very definitely, since amphibious attacks aren't like they were in Civ 3. In Civ 4 any unit can perform an amphibious attack, it's just that they receive a 50% penalty for doing so unless they have the amphibious promotion. If you have 250 modern armours, you should have no difficulty taking 1 square island cities, even with that penalty to their attack.

 

[Andrei_V]

Most units (like Infantry or Mech Infantry) can receive Amphibious promotion after Combat II. (Marines start with it from the beginning.)

You can attack without Amphibious, only with certain penalty. Just bring more units. Bombard cultural defenses with Battleships/Destroyers, then attack right from transports.

 

[wiser3]

I've taken some one square cites and had a case of a 2 square island with city on one square and a unit (i think tank) on the other.

I took the same approach as taking any other city. Bombard the defence to zero, (instead of artillery i used a battleship and destroyer. Then attack with a stack, in this case a destroyer, and 3 transports full of units. A couple artillery hits to soften up the troops then modern armour, mechanized armour and tanks to take the city. I may lose a unit or two, but that's the normal cost of attacking a city of equal unit/technology strength. I imagine this would work with lesser units as well.

 

[Andrei_V]

Exactly. It works even in an early Axe rush. You just need more of them.

 

[tsuke]

Oh cool! Thanks guys, i had just assumed that it was still like Civ II. What a doofus I am! Thanks Again!

 

[binhthuy71]

Oh cool! Thanks guys, i had just assumed that it was still like Civ II. What a doofus I am! Thanks Again!

Don't feel bad: I didn't know about the amphibious attack until I inadvertently clicked on an enemy one-square island with a couple of galleons full of Cav.

I was used to Civ III.

Oh yeah, I took the island and received 0 gold. Of course I razed the city: let 'em swim home.

 

[Khalid]

I didn't think of the amphibipous attack until my last game. I was at war with Washington and just sent most of my troops into his territory, when suddenly one galley with a catapult and archer sailed to my city. I wanted to block the coast until I whip something better then archer (like i would in civ III). I was really surprised when he attacked from the ship.

 

[lordofcivs]

Nice. I really didn't know that yet. Thanks everyone. I would change some of my strategies now.

 

[wioneo]

You have 250 tanks? Wow, I geuss that my warring is always over before that era, but the most military units that I have is probably around 50(mostly axemen).