Ancient Cavalry needs ivory?

[Darix]

Oh God! This is not showing up anywhere in the manual, C3C reference guide (DL from this site), or in game help. I traded my only ivory resource to Roman so I can get a tech boost 1 turn before I completed the Statue of Zeus. Big mistake! I don't get no ancient cavalry for next 20 turns.

This sux. They should put that as unit requirement somewhere in the help!

By the way, for those people who are challenging higher level of the game (emporer or above), you can trade your only resource to get a tech boost (buy one and sell to another. If you time it right, you can get quite a few techs). Iron worth a lot in early game. If you are still in building phase and can go on without iron for 20 turns, you should really trade it + some money for a good tech that you can trade around. This is also because in higher level game, you get such a bad penalty with trading AIs. So you need to do it with everything you got.

Try a SID game, if you end up with 2 or 3 close neighbors, the game is not even fun when you got totally trapped with 3-5 cities (in close range too) and no where to go. Of course, you can try to aim for diplomatic victory and that's probably the only hope.

I was actually playing SID level. Got luck out to be able to get a Statues of Zeus and thought I was in the good hand with 7 cities. I was playing persian too with an iron mine + 1 ivory (no luck on horse). By combining immortal and ancients cavalry, I can really expand a bit. But I wasted 4 good cavalry for not knowing this...

 

[Zelda's Man]

I did not realize you could trade your only resource. I thought you had to have excess to trade.

I would not trade iron to my enemies if I did not have any to protect myself with, esp. on Sid level. You will be defenseless (no pikemen or swordsmen).

 

[Lockesdonkey]

I did not realize you could trade your only resource. I thought you had to have excess to trade.

You can. It's annoying and dumb when you do it by accident.

 

[EquinoxOmega]

yes, you can trade your only resource, but it's stupid.

I think ivory is only a luxery resource, so it only makes you people happy and it's not sufficient for units like tactical resources(iron, horses, salpeter, coal, ...). Maybe you lost your salpeter(neccessary for Cavalery) either by an expending AI or it simple vanished. Are you really you sure that you haven't traded you only salpeter too?

 

[Durkz]

@ omega

ivory IS needed to produce Ancient cavalary and to build SoZ

saltpeper heh he is probably sill in AA

trading your only resurce isnt so stupid. because let say you have 1 iron early in the game. you sell your only iron for 800 g and during those 20 turns you build 20 veteran warriors. then when the deal ends you upgrade your 20 veteran warriors to 20 veteran swords for 800 g. building swordsman in convetional way would cost you 600 shields and + you would build them more than 20 turns. by doing the above example you build 20 swords for 200 s and 0 g (because you got that gold from your iron).

 

[Norsk_Viking]

is this for a mod or conquest cause i always build a SoZ, and i dont need ivory

 

[majk-iii]

It's in the epic game... and, yes u need ivory.

 

[grognard]

Norsk: It's not a mod. The Statue of Zeus requires Ivory. It's in the Civilopedia.

 

[Darix]

Trading your only resource is actually very useful. At lower difficulty where you are always ahead, this might sound stupid, but at higher level, since you are always behind and playing catch up, you might get something better in return by using this trick.

You will never get a tech by trading a resource or lux, but throw them in there equal another 200-500 (for lux. resource worth more) gold in trade value. In fact, a lot of time, I can trade one lux for another lux + 120 gold back. In that case, it is like getting 120 gold back for free (but make sure you don't trade civ far away in middle of world war. If the trade route is broken, your reputation will get screwed). You need every gold you can squeeze out in deity or SID game. Else, you will end up like 1 - 1.5 age behind in tech.