Apostolic Palace - religion switching causes bugs

axident

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Some say AP isn't religion-sticky. I think it's semi-sticky. Weird thing is, the votes kept going, but the bonuses got all messed up.

SUMMARY:

Initially I am Jewish when I build the AP - Jewish buildings give +2 hammers, cool

I switch to Taoism after building Uni of Sank and Spiral Minaret, fearing that the Jewish shrine city is too powerful - Jewish buildings still give +2 hammers, but Uni of Sank and Spiral Minaret seem to think that I'm Taoist so my Taoist buildings are getting the +2 gold/beakers, which drove me nuts since I didn't want to have to build complete sets of buildings for both religions

I switch back to Judaism to try to fix this problem - Jewish buildings STILL keep giving hammers, and now I don't even get my Uni of San/Spiral bonuses--from EITHER religion!!!

AP = buggy
 
The first part sounds exactly like it should work, according to the entry about BtS-Concepts in the civilopedia.

The AP stays locked at the state religion you had when you built it.
So the AP won´t switch his religion when you (after building it) switch state religions.
Therefore you will encounter exactly what you described i.e. the AP giving its production bonus to buildings of your former state religion, whereas Uni of Sankore and Spiral Minaret adapt to the new state religion and after switching only give their boni to the buildings of the new state religion.

The last part (of course) doesn´t sound like it is intended :D
But of course then it is the Uni of Sankore and the Spiral Minaret that act buggy.


Are you sure that you didn´t meanwhile research the technology that made the Uni and the Minaret obsolete? (which is Computers AFAIK)

And did you take into account that 1 turn of Anarchy that you get after switching (where perhaps the buildings don´t give their boni yet)?
 
The AP bonus for buildings is only for the the religion it was built under. So by build the AP while you were Jewish means that ONLY Jewish buildings for the rest of the game get the Bonus.

The Uni of Sank an the Spiral Minaret give thier bonus to which ever religion is your State Religion. You said you switched to Taoism and thus the bonus is for Taoist buildings. This is working as intended I think.
 
The AP bonus for buildings is only for the the religion it was built under. So by build the AP while you were Jewish means that ONLY Jewish buildings for the rest of the game get the Bonus.

The Uni of Sank an the Spiral Minaret give thier bonus to which ever religion is your State Religion. You said you switched to Taoism and thus the bonus is for Taoist buildings. This is working as intended I think.

Then why, after I switched back to Judaism, did I still get the +2 hammers and yet LOSE all traces of the Sank/Spiral bonuses? Shouldn't those revert to Judaism or at least remain locked in Taoism?
 
Then why, after I switched back to Judaism, did I still get the +2 hammers and yet LOSE all traces of the Sank/Spiral bonuses? Shouldn't those revert to Judaism or at least remain locked in Taoism?

Yes, but this is then the fault of the Uni of Sankore and the Spiral Minaret.

Did you wait till the anarchy ended after switching your religions before you checked for the Bonus?
And are you sue you hadn´t researched Computers in the meanwhile?
 
Yes, but this is then the fault of the Uni of Sankore and the Spiral Minaret.

Did you wait till the anarchy ended after switching your religions before you checked for the Bonus?
And are you sue you hadn´t researched Computers in the meanwhile?

Yes.

Heck yes, I try to avoid Computers as long as possible if I have both.
 
I just posted this in a thread in the main BTS forum, but I figure I'll mention it here too.

In my recent game, I was getting the hammer bonus from the AP just fine. However, when I built the U. of Sankore, it only applied the beaker bonus to monasteries of my state religion, not temples or cathedrals. I did not switch religions the entire game, and I did not get anywhere close to researching computers.
 
I just posted this in a thread in the main BTS forum, but I figure I'll mention it here too.

In my recent game, I was getting the hammer bonus from the AP just fine. However, when I built the U. of Sankore, it only applied the beaker bonus to monasteries of my state religion, not temples or cathedrals. I did not switch religions the entire game, and I did not get anywhere close to researching computers.

Yeah I think AP might mess up Uni of Sank and Spiral or the other way around...
 
Do you have a save file? Curious to see the AP if nothing else, because so far I've been beaten to the AP by the AI two times in a row. :(
 
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