Archive Character Stats - Registry and Rules

[Shaitan]

Rules discussion

It seems like there's no support at all for the teacher exclusion from learning. I like Plexus' idea of limiting classes to 3 per chat. Anybody else?

 

[naervod]

k, ill have 2 steeplechase,2 precision and 1 speed
ill also take one off weaponry, that was my mistake.i meant 2

 

[BCLG100]

shaitan i think you got my skills wrong again

Defense 2
armoured 2
shield 2
unarmoured 3

horsemanship1
steeplechase 1
prescision 1
speed 1

weaponry 2
melee 2
ranged 2
hurled1

 

[Shaitan]

@naervod - Your stats are all set.

@BCLG100 - The partial numbers that you have now are because you gained experience in the Tourney events.

@ALL - I've removed the unpopular restriction that prevented teachers from also being students and implemented the maximum of 3 courses rule for students. We'll see how this works for a little while before considering any other changes in the teaching/learning rules.

 

[BCLG100]

yes but in the main thing it said that i hade 0 for defensive and i think ive just got what you were talking about so nevermind

 

[disorganizer]

I would like to have teachers being also able to learn things.
What about the following:
Teachers can have a max of 2 attended courses while they teach.
Non-Teachers can have a max of 4 attended courses.
?

Also, we should maybe think of other teaching techniques.
Like teaching high joust for example. I would propose a indirect learning rate of 1/2 of the normal rate.
Like in this example Hight Joust would teach the trainee all needed subskills für high joust, but only at 1/2 rate. The trainer must be 2 skillpoints above the trainee in ALL the subskills teached. The teacher still only earns major skills (DEFENSE, HORSEMANSHIP and WEAPONRY in this example), and also at 1/2 rate.

 

[Shaitan]

The combined training gets a bit too complicated so I wouldn't support that at this time.

For the teaching/learning thing, how about setting a limit on 4 classes, whether the person is teaching or learning? Therefore a teacher could have one class and then go to 3 themselves. A pur estudent could take 4 classes.

 

[disorganizer]

Perfect with me, shaitan! So i would comply to 4 total.


To the combined learning:
If we get that rule going, the academy could still teach quick coursed specialized on disciplines, whareas private persons could do special event-trainings.
But maybe we should down the rate to 1/3 or 1/4 compared to the specialized training? And only 1 trainee per trainer at a time

 

[Shaitan]

Stats are updated from the 19 Oct training at The Academy.

We need to reconfigure training a bit. Skill + subskill should be used for the comparison between trainer & student instead of just subskill.

 

[disorganizer]

I would say: Skill must be at least 1 above, subskill 2?
Maybe the rate should also include skill difference AND subskill difference? Like Skill-Difference*Subskill-Difference?

 

[Shaitan]

I'm thinking of making things simpler.

Requirements to train: Instructor SKILL + Instructor SubSkill > Student SKILL + Student SubSkill. The reducing returns when skill levels get close already represents the decreased amount of learning a student can get when they approach the instructor's skill level. I don't think we need the absolute restriction.

Skill gain for training: ((Inst SKILL + Inst SubSkill) - (Stu SKILL + Stu SubSkill)) x .05

 

[disorganizer]

Perfect! I sense a the dungeon master in you shaitan.


Another question:
Will events like horseracing and official private duells increase the skills?

 

[Grandmaster]

Shaitan, do Sir Dis and myself gain any experience from the dueling?

 

[eyrei]

I would like to increase my melee skill please.

 

[naervod]

@eyrei- i believe that should be posted here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34328

 

[Plexus]

Originally posted by Shaitan
Grandmaster, jdd2007, SKILORD and Plexus, your bonus points have been applied. Still need instruction from eyrei.

Originally posted by eyrei
I would like to increase my melee skill please.

He was replying to a previous post by shaitan...

 

[Shaitan]

@dis & Grandmaster: So far the non-structured skill gains (besides sanctioned contests like we had at the Grand Tourney) are:
Duels: .25 for 1 subskill to victor, .1 for 1 subskill to loser, Maximum of 1 award per week.

Professional Racers: .25 for HORSEMANSHIP:Speed to winner, .1 for HORSEMANSHIP:Speed to 2nd/3rd place. Maximum of 1 award per week.

@eyrei: Your melee score has been increased.

 

[Grandmaster]

So Sir Shai, should I tell you what to improve or do I have no choice?

 

[disorganizer]

@shaitan: what about the 4th- place for horse races?
I would propose:
1st .25, 2nd+3rd .15, 4th- .1

 

[Shaitan]

Originally posted by Grandmaster
So Sir Shai, should I tell you what to improve or do I have no choice?

You have your choice of any subskill used in the duel. Armor, Shield and Melee